The ELIMINATOR

syscrash

Member
Hi FullHouse,

I'm not advanced as Endbox but just to confirm my data for the Eleminator 10.

It started 16/02/2006 so here's all the ten draws.

20/02/2006 (07)(35)(13)(14)(16)(19)(34)
20/02/2006 (03)(06)(16)(25)(34)(38)(48)
19/02/2006 (05)(11)(14)(16)(29)(37)(44)
19/02/2006 (06)(12)(18)(24)(33)(38)(02)
18/02/2006 (05)(24)(28)(31)(37)(42)(45)
18/02/2006 (09)(20)(27)(37)(43)(44)(48)
17/02/2006 (05)(18)(25)(29)(36)(39)(47)
17/02/2006 (06)(08)(27)(29)(32)(44)(39)
16/02/2006 (02)(04)(24)(29)(33)(39)(20)
16/02/2006 (06)(14)(23)(29)(37)(40)(04)

After all those draws, here's the remaning numbers :


(1)(10)(15)(17)(21)(22)(26)(30)(41)(46)(49)

So from it, I wait until there's 3 number left only.

Except on the (30) from Eleminator (9) that finish 22-02-06 and unless (21)(22) pass the "13 ---> 17"

Also tomorow Eleminator (11) gonna start right?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Regards,
 

fullhouse

Member
Hey guys

You got it spot on man. Yes the interesting thing is number (21) along with number (30) are the final numbers in Endboxes Eliminator which was started on Feb 12th.

And I am using 21 to defend 30 in my Eliminator using a 100/40 split.

Thanks for that Endbox. Telling me that you started your Eliminator a day after mine has thrown up some interesting observations. And I am experimenting with Eliminators 2 draws apart to see if they throw up more doubles winners.

I think they will increase the frequency of doubles Endbox because I have noticed doubles coming in the past slightly behind or in front of the Eliminator I was concentrating on. So I have you to thank for telling me you had your Eliminator running a day after mine.

You see when people work together we can see things even better.

I also used number (34) today to defend number (30) So although number (30) never racked up I still made a small bit of profit. If you noticed it came out twice today both times as the bonus ball. This is why it's crucial to cover the 7 number draw. There is nothing that peevs you off like betting on a number in the 6 number draw only to see it drop as the bonus ball. And this happened to me a few times in the past when I only wanted to cover the 6 ball draw because it offers 6/1 as opposed to 5/1 with the bonus ball.

But its not worth the risk of missing your number.

So yes Guys Eliminator 11 commences tomorrow and number ten has 11 numbers remaining after 10. In the Teatime draw today 4 of the 15 numbers remaining were drawn. I have been taking onboard what Springbok has been saying about the possibility of predicting more than two numbers.

And I have lost count of how many times I have seen 3 or 4 of the last 15 or 16 numbers rack up in one draw. And although it is still difficult to pick them it's a helluva lot easier to pick 3 or 4 numbers from 15 than it is from 49. I just thought I would mention that.

In case there are members who're looking for the bigger payouts and are trying to pick multiple numbers. Peace...
 

syscrash

Member
Re: Hey guys

fullhouse said:

I also used number (34) today to defend number (30) So although number (30) never racked up I still made a small bit of profit. If you noticed it came out twice today both times as the bonus ball. This is why it's crucial to cover the 7 number draw. There is nothing that peevs you off like betting on a number in the 6 number draw only to see it drop as the bonus ball. And this happened to me a few times in the past when I only wanted to cover the 6 ball draw because it offers 6/1 as opposed to 5/1 with the bonus ball.

Hi Fullhouse,

How did you get (34)? and what do you mean when you say that you used X number to defend Y number?
 

fullhouse

Member
Hey syscrash

Yesterday Endbox told me he was running his own Eliminator which he started on Feb 12th. His remaining 3 numbers were (21) (30) (34)

So as I am covering number (30) because it is a good number and the last one remaining in Eliminator (9) I decided to use number 34 to defend it.

By that I mean I put just enough money on (34) to get back all my stake for both numbers plus a little profit. And it came out as the bonus ball at Lunchtime.

Tommorow I will use number (21) to defend number (30) And hopefully (30) will drop. The only reason I am pursuing number (30) is because it is one of the top 4 numbers in performance over the last 2 years.

Only numbers (02 (06) & (12) have more consistent performances over that period. And it hasn't been past draw 28 in 3 years. It is now at draw 21.

If it had been a number like 7 or 45 I wouldn't be covering it. As those numbers have bad records for consistency. I hope that anwsers your question Syscrash. Peace...
 

syscrash

Member
Hi Fullhouse

Can you tell me how old is your history result? You seem to look back to analyse the numbers performance.
 

syscrash

Member
So today is another loosing day, but I'm happy that my bankroll's still higher than my initial "investment". Thanks for Fullhouse stake management course 101. :)

Things to do tomorow :

Beting twice on (21) (30) for the last times.
Be awared if the (21)(22) pair will be eligible for the side-by-side strategy for the tea-time draw.

Some interesting quickfacts about (21) (30) pairs
Last time we saw that pair was 54 draws ago 19/01/2006
According to my not so old history result file, this pair seem to pop on an average of 67 draws .
Again, according to my not so old history result file, the longest numbers of draws that pair doesn't appeared was between 8/8/2004 and 3/11/2004. That makes 171 draws without any apparitions.

Again, according to my not so old history result file, the shortest numbers of draws that pair appeared was between 10/3/2002 and 12/3/2002. That makes 4 draws without any apparitions.

If anyone has some special request about statistics or quickfacts, feel free to ask, I will be pleased to try to give it to you.

Good luck everyone.
 
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fullhouse

Member
Hey syscrash

Hi syscrash. Don't panic when your bankroll drops down. Its all part and parcel of the process. The idea is to grow a little with each win.

I am confident that either (21) or (30) should put in an appearance tommorow. There is another interesting phenomena relating both the Eliminator & Side by Side stratedgies. And that is, there is often a CORE number, such as (21) in this case that is involved in both of them.

Another observation is that only so many side by side pairs can qualify in a given month and reach the 13---17 ZONE. For example you will never get a month where there are more than 20 qualifiers. So once you've had 8-14 many pairs will get close to 13 but split on the Eleventh or twelth draw.

And we have seen this happen over the last few days with (11) (12) and (34) (35)

And now we have (21) (22) at 12 draws no split. And (21) is also due in the Eliminator. So that number may well be the one to end both stratedgies latest runs.

I have enough experience to not panic when I don't win every single day. If I did it would be going too well. I simply let the numbers do the work for me. Number (30) is now 23 draws no show. That makes it 6 draws from its longest run in 3 years (28)

Also (30) (31) is now 6 draws no split. I can elect (31) to defend (30) if necessary. And if number 21 falls tomorrow I will do just that.

I believe number (30) will get close to (28) or on it but not go past it.

This all ties in to Springboks stats the other day. Only so many numbers can go past 22 draws.

Here is another interesting stat. There have been 52 losing streaks that have gone 17 draws or more in 2006 so far. And 35 of them didn't make it past 21.

That is pretty impressive even more impressive is the fact that 11 of them racked up on the 18th draw. That is a strike rate of over 20% on just that losing streak.

If you were a picky gambler with that knowledge. You could simply wait for a number to go 17 draws and then bet on it once. If it didn't rack up. You let it go and wait for the next qualifier knowing that for every 5 numbers that get to draw 17 you will hit ONE. And at odds of 5/1 you will make profit no question with a slight progressive staking plan.

I have my work cut out at the moment trying to finish my results for the staking thread for the Eliminator. I know Endbox will be wanting to see this. And I appologize for it taking longer than I anticipated. But once it is on here. You will appreciate it. Peace...
 

syscrash

Member
So... today was a great day, my bankroll still in the green section... thanks for the side by side strategy and Endbox eleminator. :)

We met the last draws of eleminator (9). (30) hasn't shown after 24 draws :(. Fullhouse, I'm not really sure hot to manage my stakes about this number anymore. :confused:


About Eleminator (10)
After 14 draws there's 7 numbers to pay attention :
(10)(15)(17)(22)(26)(30)

Correct me if I'm wrong but 7 numbers after 10 draws is a bit early if we compare with previous eleminators results after 10 draw.
 

endbox

Member
Eliminator

Hi fullhouse & syscrash , being honest here , I've bought so many duff systems in my time , I couldn't list them all.........The ELIMINATOR is by far the best system i've seen.........I've not played it properly............I'm still a sceptic by heart , so imagine how i felt today !...........Been chasing 21 & 30 for a few draws now.......Didn't bet today !!!!!!!!!!!

Not lost a fortune but going to play from a fresh slate when next eliminator qualifies...........Let's keep in touch , this is a superb site & thread...................Thanks again fullhouse for sharing you system with us (warts 'n all )................Long may it continue , all the best , endbox :)
 

syscrash

Member
Hi Endbox,

Not sure to understand what you're mean, but I just want to tell you that Eleminator is a good system for me but side-by-side strategy is REALLY simple and pretty effective for me so far.

Just don't know how to manage not picked number from the last eleminator (30).

I think that I'll make a pause for one or two days for the next Eleminator, because (30) made me loose a lot of money. In fact... if I sum Eleminator 9. I loss more that I won with all because the (30).
 

endbox

Member
Eliminator

Hi syscrash , Should have followed the rules , instead of betting irratically........Hope that makes sence , take care , endbox
 

fullhouse

Member
My fault.

Syscrash my advice to you is to stick with the Side by Side stratedgy until you build your bankroll up to at least $200. Because to follow the Eliminator properly and with confidence that is the minumum you really need When you have a losing Eliminator you can lose 25% of your bankroll easy. It is my fault for talking about covering number (30). But remember even when I bet on (30) I defend it. So I haven't lost any money. I defended it with number (34) and today number (21) And next will be number (31) because the two are now 8 draws no split. And this is on the back of the previous 13 draws that qualified for the Side by Side system last time. And if my memory serves me right. There have NEVER been two consecutive 12 plus runs for those two numbers.

That is what fuels my confidence.

I am only covering number (30) because I believe it is a good number and its close to its 3 year limit (28). Like Endbox said in the strict rules of the Eliminator its time finished today after the teatime draw. So let it go, as you don't have enough funds yet.

Endbox its a pity you weren't on (21) & (30) But I respect your Scepticism, believe me I know what it is to get burned with crap systems that don't work and cost alot of money. I once payed £200 for a horseracing system that was useless. And promised the world. This is one of the things that led me to create my own systems that I knew would really work.

I am still a bit sceptical and I have been making money from this thing for years now. I know I would be ten times richer if I were a bit braver with my stakes. If you imagine that £2,000 with a growth of around 50% a month would grow to over £200,000 in one year.

You will know what I mean. But I have to constantly cream profits off to pay bills. So my growth is alot slower than it should be becasue of that. And my naturally cautious nature. So be patient guys, this isn't a get rich scheme. But followed properly and with consistency you will progress to a point where having to work for a living becomes an option. Peace...
 
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fullhouse

Member
Okay to update Eliminator (10) we are now down to 6 numbers after 14 draws. They're (10) (15) (17) (26) (30) (49)

I think this Eliminator is going to be a slower qualifier than previous ones. So I would expect it to get down to 3 numbers at around the 18-20 draw zone. Hopefully number (30) won't be the in the last 3. Lol!
 

Springbok

Member
to Syscrash

I would have thought it would be extremely unwise to try out a new system using hard cash until you had simulated it for a couple of weeks. Now if you found it gave you a profit then go ahead. You have to get the feel of a system first. Greed can be the undoing of any person as it can distort reasoning powers. We humans are extremely fallible creatures.
 

syscrash

Member
Re: to Syscrash

fullhouse said:
Okay to update Eliminator (10) we are now down to 6 numbers after 14 draws. They're (10) (15) (17) (26) (30) (49)

I think this Eliminator is going to be a slower qualifier than previous ones. So I would expect it to get down to 3 numbers at around the 18-20 draw zone. Hopefully number (30) won't be the in the last 3. Lol!

Hi Fullhouse,

Your result look like mine a bit, but not exactly. Accoring to my history :

22/02/2006(5)(18)(21)(25)(29)(35)(38)
22/02/2006(2)(16)(23)(27)(29)(40)(47)
21/02/2006(1)(2)(28)(33)(37)(46)(48)
21/02/2006(6)(24)(27)(33)(35)(38)(41)
20/02/2006(7)(35)(13)(14)(16)(19)(34)
20/02/2006(3)(6)(16)(25)(34)(38)(48)
19/02/2006(5)(11)(14)(16)(29)(37)(44)
19/02/2006(6)(12)(18)(24)(33)(38)(2)
18/02/2006(5)(24)(28)(31)(37)(42)(45)
18/02/2006(9)(20)(27)(37)(43)(44)(48)
17/02/2006(5)(18)(25)(29)(36)(39)(47)
17/02/2006(6)(8)(27)(29)(32)(44)(39)
16/02/2006(2)(4)(24)(29)(33)(39)(20)
16/02/2006(6)(14)(23)(29)(37)(40)(4)


The (22) hasn't shown in 14 previous draw. Can you tell me why you didn't include this number in the Eleminator 10?

Thanks,
 

syscrash

Member
The (30) has shown today, and I didn't stake on it. :heul:

Okay to update Eliminator (10) we are now down to 4 numbers after 16 draws. They're (10) (15) (17) (49)

I would take the chance to bet but, I rememeber the Fullhouse's advices to wait until there's only 3...

So again, be patient, wait and see.
 

endbox

Member
Eliminator

Hi guys , in my eliminator No 30 was the last number which appeared today ..............Draw No 24 !

Will follow betting stratergy's in future ..........Keep in touch , take care , endbox
 

syscrash

Member
Yes we must follow the rules and manage wisely our stakes.

Guys, what do you think about the (17) it didn't shown since 13-Feb-06 ... 21 draws.
 

fullhouse

Member
Hi syscrash

You are right Syscrash I started this Eliminator a draw early by mistake. From teatime of the 15th of Feb instead of Lunchtime of the 16th.

I am impressed by your sharpness. Nevertheless both number (22) and my little friend number (30) racked up today.

My faith in the number was rewarded, and it has maintained its sub 30 draw record as I believed it would. By dropping after a (26) draw vacation

And I made some nice profit. So yes after 16 draws we now have (10) (15) (17) & (49) remaining.

PATIENCE, is the word that often separates success from despair in the battle of the odds. So yes let it ride. And probably by tommorow qualification will take place for Eliminator (10)

I have to stress though, things have been going too well lately and surely after 5 winning Eliminators in a row this one is likely to be in the negative.

Number (17) is now 20 draws no show. And I believe it may well be the one that drops first of the 4. But also we have numbers (10) and (15) at 17 draws a piece.

And as Springbok rightly pointed out the other day. That is the median of losing streaks. So its possible one of them could rack up first. One thing I am quite certain of is, at least one of those 3 numbers won't make it past the 22nd draw. Keep watching guys. Peace...
 
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