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Clipper

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Havent come up with any numbers just yet but have been working on the Alpha Pattern of tonights game. Appears that it might be either OOE or EEO....am leaning towards the EEO :)
 

Rebeckah

Member
I've only charted some stuff for July's hits, so I don't have a big game picture yet. Interesting that EEE and OOO have hit more frequently than some of the doubles.... I was working on seeing what 049 announces & I think 6 could be a key #
...0-6-7-1 , of course I want to include 5 cuz it's so due.
781
056
568
618
608
628
combo, night game
clipper, do you play day or night?
 

Clipper

Member
Rebeckah....I've been playing a little of both....Day and Night. All depends of whether I see something I feel good about or not as to whether I play 1 or the other or both.

As previously mentioned, I think the Alpha Pattern for tonight is going to be EEO. I also did an Alpha Pattern for the "sets" to be used and came up with EOO for the sets.

Also getting an indication that digits on Levels 5+ out will not play tonight so that would eliminate 7, 5, & 2 even if they are "due".
Also getting an indication that the number of Levels the digits are on will expand from 6 to 7 and that would eliminate the digit 3.

This leaves only 904 and 861 for the 3 digits. Is getting over due for a Doubles game, however, not seeing it tonight. What I've come up with is something that will Sum Total ODD tonight. This can only be an Even game or a PURE Odd game.

What I have for tonight: 601, 641, 609, 649 and 689

Just to let you know, Rebeckah....ODD digits are playing faster then EVEN digits in both the Daily and the Night Texas Games.
My Database goes back to 2-3-2003 for the Daily and 3-22-2003 for the Night.

Doubles dont generally play but about every 8-10 games so they should hit sometime soon. They went an entire month of May (I believe) at Night without hitting at all and when they did they played about 3 games in a row. Same with the Daily right about the same time.
 

Clipper

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Well....didnt go quite like I had figured.....but the 6 and 8 did play. That 7 played as well Rebeckah!

I have about 3 different Databases I am working with just for the combinations that do play....on top of that....I have an Alpha Tracking database for each of those 3 and 1 each for the CL Set alpha tracking and another database for my Code Set tracking!

Gets down right confusing at times lol:dizzy:

One thing I didnt mention earlier was that I thought it could go either Singles or 20's. To me a type 1 is 20's, type 2 is Teens and type 3 is Singles. My charts indicated that an "odd" number type (1 or 3) would be next in my chart.

I did have a type 4 CL Alpha (EOO and OEE) and it went Even and I went Odd :( Digits 6 and 7 are in Set 4....8 & 9 are in Set 5.
I had sets to be 455 (EOO) and it went 544 (OEE).

Havent been tracking both Day and Night jointly very long so I tend to rely on my individual databases more then combined. At some point, Im going to have to decide one way or the other which to keep up with.
 

Rebeckah

Member
I had a voice in my head that said I should do 678, but I haven't looked at consecutive frequencies yet.... so I ignored it. & looked what happened: 876. ha! Not bad for a first attempt. Once I get more into it I'll do even better. haha. ;)
There's a ton of sums in teens.
If you're looking for a new technique, I'd reccomend doing *announcing* #s... like what always follows a 04 pair, a triple hit, an OEO hit, an odd sum, etc, looking at that stuff can help with predicting, since you're looking at what typically occurs.... that's mainly how I picked 6 as my key #. & I'd pick night game since it has the longer history. Eventually I'd like to get all that into my db. but we'll see... that's alot of work. I understand you're talking about the *vtrac* concept when you break the digits into pairs. right?
 

Clipper

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"If you're looking for a new technique, I'd reccomend doing *announcing* #s... " Not sure what you mean by this. I dont track numbers according to what plays after a certain pair, etc.

I do use Alpha Pattern tracking...EEE, OOO, EEO, OOE, EOE, OEO, OEE and EOO in addition to Sum Total, whether will Sum Total in Singles (0-10), Teens (11-20) and 20's (21-27).

Again, never heard of "vtrac" before.....I call them CL's...Card Levels...as I take the Game Card and divide them up in pairs with 0-1 being #1 CL, 2&3 being #2 CL, 4&5 being #3 CL, 6&7 being #4 CL and 8&9 being #5 CL. This gives 1 Odd and 1 Even digit per pair.

Sometimes digits come from only 2 CL's and other times 3 CL's so I track the number of CL's that will be used and what they Sum Total.

You are right there are a ton of Sum Totals in Teens. There are 704 exacts that Sum Total 11-20. There are 212 that Sum Total 0-10 and 84 that Sum Total 21-27. This is why it is 3 times more likely for 3 digits to Sum Total 11-20 then Singles or 20's.

Last night you caught the cycle when it did Sum Total in the 20's and my records indicated that it could go either way....Singles or 20's so could have ruled out Teens.

Since I have 3 Databases......one for combined and 1 for each the Daily and the Night, I have more then 1 way to track. My Daily Database indicated that no digits 5+ games out would play but they did. It was my Combined Database that indicated no digits 5+ out and I had that in my mind when I was working with my Daily Database and applied it when I shouldnt because it did indicate a digit would play :( Why it gets confusing here at times :dizzy:

The Daily Game actually has over a years worth of data as it started April 29, 2002. I've found it doesnt really matter how far you go back and actually can start with about the last 30 games to set a Database and tracking in motion.

You just need enough games to where all the 10 digits have played at least once to start tracking the 10 digits. Right now my Combined Database goes back 5 months.

For todays Daily......Im looking for all digits to come from ODD CL pairs....so this would eliminate 2, 3, 7 & 6. Think there will be a repeat of the 8. Possibly an EEO game that Sum Totals less then 21. In fact possibly Sum Total between 0-10. Im going with 081 and have feeling perhaps I should have played 401 as well :lol:
 

Clipper

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Well.....I zigged when I should have zagged again! :lol: I knew there was a possibility of a PURE game playing, however, I didnt check that out before I settled on the EEO pattern :( Knew would be either Pattern 1 or Pattern 2. One is PURE...2 is EEO/OOE.

At least there was 1 digit repeat! Sum Total stayed 21!
 

Clipper

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If I had just paid attention to my Combined Database for Alpha Patterns I would have caught that PURE ODD for the Daily:bawl:

I was so brain dead though last night after working on several new Databases that I completely wore myself out before looking at possible numbers for today. :( Then when I got up this AM I made too quick of a decision before running to the store to get back before it got hot! :eek:

I got an updated revision of my software last night from my Programmer and have been trying to update my various Databases with the new software. I've just got 22 copies of the software running tracking for the Daily Game :lol:

Probably about half that many for just the Night Game! :eek: Starting to get so many that I had to stop and do a little house cleaning of the hard drive last night and delete some that I wasnt keeping updated as I even had Databases by Games Types...1, 2, 3, and 4.

There is a multitude of different ways you can track the 10 digits. One way is to track them by "kind".....Like all games that Sum Total EVEN; all games that Sum Total ODD; Doubles, games Sum Total Singles, Sum Total Teens, Sum Total 20's.

The new software I got last night will now allow me to generate combinations for a specific "type" of game such as....EEO or OOE, EOE or OEO, etc.

If I can track the Alpha Patterns I can then set my software to generate only combinations of a specific pattern. Will cut the 1000 down to 125. If can eliminate Doubles can cut the 125 to 100 most of the time. Little different for PURES due to the 60/60/5 split.

By the time I eliminate the Doubles and down to 100, if I can eliminate Sum Totals in Singles and 20's, Im down to 68 for Teens. Then with how my software works, out of the possible 68 I will only be working with about 32 exact combinations!
 

Rebeckah

Member
hi Clipper. :)
I'm trying to reread this thread & my notes so I won't talk about things I already asked you about, like the vtracs. Sorry 'bout that. So bear with me till I get up to speed. :) I wanted to know how much of the data you're using cuz If I set my ss to the same amount then we should have identical data. But I guess I'll just stick with June nights for now. The only prob with such a short history is I can't tell doubles/triples frequency. Do you have any info you'd like to share on D/T frequency?

& what I meant by announcing, which is just the term they use on this board. GH calls it trailing #s, Lottery Directory calls it next draw.... etc... it just predicts what's following. I'm going to set up a chart on pairs, & sums which I think will help tremedously.
 

Clipper

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Right now my Database goes back to 2-3-2003 for all my Databases. With regards to Doubles and Triples.....I seldom worry about Triples or try to predict them since they are so infrequent.

In fact, during the past 5 months Triples have played only 5 times with a rash of them happening in a short period of time in June when 3 of the played within 1 week. One played on the 13th, 1 on the 14th and 1 on the 18th. This is per a Combined Database of both Daily and Night Pick 3 results.

In the past 5 months Doubles have played 65 times during this same time period and based upon a Combined Database. During the months of February and March the frequency of Doubles was rather steady playing anywhere from every 3-4 to 5 games with an occasional 1 game gap to as much as 9 games in between plays.

By the time April came along the frequency they played picked up up considerably 2-3-4 games in between. Then by the time May came the frequency dropped off considerably. In fact, for the Night game it went the entire month of May without even having a Double game. There was one 15 game period there was no Doubles game in either Day or Night during May.

By May 28th Doubles started playing again and when they did the played several in a row for about 2 weeks and have since declined considerably. In fact after June 12th there was a 13 game gap before Doubles played and 3 played in a row.

Hasnt been a Doubles game in either Day or Night since which is now 21 games so they should be hitting pretty soon and could go through a higher then normal frequency of play before falling off again.

The way I track Doubles is I keep a chart of 2's and 3's for the number of digits that play. 2 meaning Doubles and 3 meaning 3 digits. With my method of record keeping it allows me to predict when Doubles are going to play if there is a fairly steady flow of short/long periods of 1-10 games between plays.

I think when I checked my Doubles Database last there was an indication that the next Doubles game will probably be an EVEN game.
 

Clipper

Member
Just looked at my Combined Database Alpha Pattern for Doubles. Appears next Doubles game whether Day or Night will probably be either OEO or OEE.
 

Rebeckah

Member
sounds like doubles need a bigger data base to spot the trends better. it's a *long term trend.* I spent most of the day making a HCC etc spreadsheet. I compared:

5+ games out as cold=
9% are: CCC,CCH,CHC,HCC, and
90% are either: CHH,HCH,HHC,HHH.

with 4+ games out as cold=
22% are: CCC,CCH,CHC,HCC, and
77% are either: CHH,HCH,HHC,HHH.

so, I predict either a double or triple hot sequence. duh. :lol:
I'm feeling the 9 will do some catching up now. and 8 as key digit. sum back to low teens... still have ooddles of fun terrific ss to make. good luck if you play! :)
 

Clipper

Member
Was wondering what your C's and H's mean? Cold - Hot or Even/Odd? :lol:

Im going with another PURE Odd game for tonight. Possibly a 2 digit repeat out of the 975 with either the 1 or the 3.

Im burned out making databases today :dizzy: Worked on Combined Databases for Even Sum Totals, Odd Sum Totals, & Alpha Pattern of CL's. First 2 arent that hard as I just make a copy of software for each and then delete entries to leave only what I want to track...like Even Sums or Odd Sums.

That Alpha Pattern copy wore me out after making 2 entries per day for over 5 months! :eek:
 

Clipper

Member
Well....it wasnt another PURE....but it was a 2 digit repeat from the Daily Game! Glad I didnt play. By time came to go get tickets I was too pooped to go anywhere :lol:

Besides, after I checked a few more Databases and I couldnt come up with anything I was comfortable with :D

Been looking at what might possibly play for tomorrow's Daily instead. Been looking in particular at my TEENS database for daily and it appears the next Daily Teen will Sum Total 12 or smaller and I think ODD. That wouldnt be a hard one to figure since there is only 1 Sum Total lower the 12!

Am wondering if that Double game is about to play and the 344 or 335 is about to play? Havent looked at the Doubles Database enough yet to determine whether will Sum Total Singles, Teens or 20's. :cool:
 

Rebeckah

Member
C & H are cold & hot :)
Cold defined as either out 4 or 5 games.
Haven't done this with the O/E yet.
SOOOO much work to be done. :rolleyes: I'm going to work on pairs announcing other pairs today.
Have you seen the pick 3 sum chart in the lotto free stuff section? There's a button on the bottom of the page to get there. It was exactly what I was looking for as I was drawing that up by hand yesterday & found it just in time! phew! I bet you already have that tho. :confused:
I agree with the sum of 11 considering it has been the most popular sum these past two months. I also agree with you on doubles hitting now. This looks like the begining of a hitting trend since May was void of dbls & trpls..... & since you pointed out it's a big trend & it hits in clusters, I bet you're right on in predicting a hitting trend now. Good call :agree2:
That 2 is dangerously due. :lol:
So, have you noticed alot of repeats from the day to night draws? Do they use the same balls & machines for each draw? I haven't read up on it at the homepage yet. good luck! I'll try & get some #s up later. :goodluck: :D & happy 4th! :party:
 

Clipper

Member
Rebeckah.....thanks for the info on the stuff in Free Stuff. I havent checked anything in that area. Rather thought the C&H were Cold and Hot. I dont work specifically with that kind of tracking although my LOP 5+ would be a different way to consider Cold and LOP 1-4 would be Hot.

I've found in my trackings that most digits will replay by the time they reach 4 games out so if I can determine whether any digits will not play 5 games or more out I can delete them from consideration (block them) in my software. Keep in mind that I've seen some digits go as many as 15 games or more.....even 26 games before they play so they get really cold. Doesnt happen all that often but it can.

Today's Daily was 082.....I went low- too low with 180 :( Also had 283 for 13 and although I didnt play it I liked 263 for the Sum 11. I was seeing another "PURE" about to happen but just couldnt come up with one I liked.

With regards to the Repeats from Daily to Night, etc., that's one reason I made a combined Database because I was seeing the possibility of the repeat rate increasing from 60-62% overall. There seems to be a lot more 2 digit repeats between the games then singles but cant tell for sure until I made a Visual Chart to a better "picture".

I have no idea what machines they use for the Pick 3 and it's never been a consideration of mind with the system I use. It's not a factor because what happens on paper for me and my records cant be controlled by whatever machines the TLC uses.
If a certain "type" game is going to play, it's going to play and there's nothing they can do to change that.

Frankly I think they put that information out just to confuse the people because what better way to keep the opposition confused or "off track" then to throw them a bunch of statistics that cloud the issue :cool:

I dont even track the digits by the number of times they play...period...I track by the number of games they've played in. If a digit doubles in a game, it's only counted once. ;) I also pay a lot of attention to how many levels the digits are scattered on and whether 1-2-3 levels will be "in play".

I can then set my software to generate from either 3 LOP's or 2 LOP's....even 1 LOP. Then I consider the number of SETS (CL's) the digits will be on.....1-2-3. Can set my software to generate from either 1-2-3 CL's at the same time it considers 1-2-3 LOP's.

Glad to see you getting "into" this Pick 3 tracking :lol: In can be addicting and heck of a lot easier to track then 44 digits! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with since your methods differ from mine ;)

Have a safe 4th! :wavey: I came up with 2 more ideas for tracking some of my information.....usually hits me about the time I go to bed! Then I cant sleep so I get back up and work some more...:eek:
 

Clipper

Member
PS.....wish Doubles would play more often.....like every 5-6 games as it would make it easier for me to determine whether 3 or 2 digits were going to be used :( Dont like it when it goes for long spells at a time.....10-15-20...as they become so "over due" that I think they are about to play anytime :lol:
 

OldHank

Member
Rebeckah

Saw your question about the balls/machines.

There are 3 machines and they change every month.

There are 17 ball sets:
69 70 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 83 84 85 86 87 88

and, I don't know how they choose which ones to use each draw. Sometimes there will be a repeated ball set in a following draw and sometimes not.

On the TLC website, they list the pre-test draws for mid-day and night. These draws show which balls will be used in the final drawing. Also, the pretest draws are sometimes up on the website 1 hour before the draw time. Check it out.
 

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