6/49 Discussion For October 22, 2003

martek

Member
I know what you mean Beaker. There's a 90% chance there will be only 1 prime in the next draw. But 10% chance something else will happen. I was thinking of playing a prime quad centered around the number 11 in the next drawing, but the stats I collected concerning 37 have made me drop that idea, and play 1 or 2 primes instead. I might keep the prime quad idea for a more suitable occasion though.
 

Beaker

Member
martek said:
I know what you mean Beaker. There's a 90% chance there will be only 1 prime in the next draw. But 10% chance something else will happen. I was thinking of playing a prime quad centered around the number 11 in the next drawing, but the stats I collected concerning 37 have made me drop that idea, and play 1 or 2 primes instead. I might keep the prime quad idea for a more suitable occasion though.
martek, we know these primes hit and at least 1 or 2 of them. I like to cover at least 4 in my sets on 12 - normally I play 12 numbers - hoping to hit as many as I can. That quad may happen sooner than you think. I like 11-13-37 so far :agree:
 

martek

Member
Beaker, I don't like that triplet, particularly the 13-37 pair. :rolleyes:
The reason is 13 has hit twice as a bonus recently and 37 is a bonus from the last. I looked at the last 100 draws, and recent bonus numbers do NOT like to pair up quickly.
I'm gonna work on this some more. It could be a good pair filter (weed out the least likely pairs). Details to come. :)
 

hot4

Member
martek said:
I know what you mean Beaker. There's a 90% chance there will be only 1 prime in the next draw. But 10% chance something else will happen. I was thinking of playing a prime quad centered around the number 11 in the next drawing, but the stats I collected concerning 37 have made me drop that idea, and play 1 or 2 primes instead. I might keep the prime quad idea for a more suitable occasion though.

I'm following your discussion about prime numbers, and some doubts came to my mind.

There are 14 prime numbers. Hits of 14 numbers (in a 6/49 lotto) are expected like this (in %):

0 hits- 11,60742
1 hits- 32,50077
2 hits- 34,07339
3 hits- 17,03669
4 hits- 4,25917
5 hits- 0,50108
6 hits- 0,02147

At least one prime number is expected in 88,39% of draws.

This is different from the data you present here: " There's a 90% chance there will be only 1 prime in the next draw."

Have you really met this results in past draws?

It would be very skewed from expected.

Thanks,

Frank
 

martek

Member
hot4, I meant to say 90% have AT LEAST 1 prime. My mistake. I've spent too much time looking at these darn numbers. :dizzy:
 

Beaker

Member
hot4 said:
I'm following your discussion about prime numbers, and some doubts came to my mind.

There are 14 prime numbers. Hits of 14 numbers (in a 6/49 lotto) are expected like this (in %):

0 hits- 11,60742
1 hits- 32,50077
2 hits- 34,07339
3 hits- 17,03669
4 hits- 4,25917
5 hits- 0,50108
6 hits- 0,02147

At least one prime number is expected in 88,39% of draws.

This is different from the data you present here: " There's a 90% chance there will be only 1 prime in the next draw."

Have you really met this results in past draws?

It would be very skewed from expected.

Thanks,

Frank
There are 15 primes :agree: between 1-49
 
Reinventing the wheel....

martek said:
I meant to say 90% have AT LEAST 1 prime. My mistake. I've spent too much time looking at these darn numbers. :dizzy:
Dennis Bassboss a long long time ago... said:
When joined with the announcers theory they could be interesting ....But always play the announcers...and do not always play all the prime numbers...one thing that is very interesting about these prime numbers is that at least one of them will hit approximatly 92% of the time...and two of them will hit at least for approximatly 65% of the time...so when making your selections make sure you include some of these without forgetting any other
prime numbers....For the people using large sets of numbers it is a very accurate filter....
:read: :king::agree2:
By the way there are 15 prime numbers folks...But there's only one Dennis Bassboss... :lol:
 

martek

Member
Short follow-up to what I posted about bonus numbers not liking to pair up quickly. I had a quick glance at the last 100 draws again and the only quick pair up I see of two bonus numbers is 18-34.
34 hit in draw #2051 and 18 in draw #2052. But the 2 numbers paired up 5 draws after 18 hit (draw #2057). And that's the quickest pair up I see. Correct me if I'm wrong. :cool:
 

gsobier

Member
Dennis:

There is only one dancing set too:agree:. Those 12 numbers NEVER had 6 hits in this game and thats looking at Ontario 49 too (something like Prime Numbers).

I've imposed a minimum of 0 hits (so it won't burn:burnt: me) and a maximum of 4 in any given set which is very conservative. I can decide to be more aggressive when I feel it like:wavey:. My programs do all of this for me. My game has changed where no more than 35 numbers are played in a wheel and sometimes as low as 20:smokin: when conditions are right.

Filtering is like pealing an orange, if you damage the friut you are gone:bawl: When you got it right, then its :lol: all the way to the bank:smokin:.

This is just a small example of filters I've been using for a while now and it works:agree:. I would not try this a home folks... ...a tremendous amount of processing is required to pull this off.

Regards,
George:)
Dennis Bassboss said:
By the way there are 15 prime numbers folks...But there's only one Dennis Bassboss... :lol:
 

Maggie

Member
Beaker is right, there are 15 not 14 prime numbers:

2- 3 - 5- 7- 11- 13- 17- 19 - 23- 29- 31- 37- 41- 43- 47

I have 5 of them in my picks.. too many?
 

gsobier

Member
Maggie:

5 is too many for any given combination.

We have had none for 3 official draws in a row and thats very rare:agree:.

Regards,
George:)
Maggie said:
Beaker is right, there are 15 not 14 prime numbers:

2- 3 - 5- 7- 11- 13- 17- 19 - 23- 29- 31- 37- 41- 43- 47

I have 5 of them in my picks.. too many?
 
Re: Re: Reinventing the wheel....

gsobier said:
Dennis:

There is only one dancing set too. Those 12 numbers NEVER had 6 hits in this game and the Ontario 49 ever (something like Prime Numbers).

I've imposed a minimum of 0 hits (so it won't burn me) and a maximum of 4 which is very conservative. I can decide to be more aggressive when I feel it like:wavey:.

Just a small example of filters I've been using for a while now and it works:agree:.

Filtering is like pealing an orange, if you damage the friut you are gone:bawl: When you did it right, then its :lol: all the way to the bank:smokin:.

Regards,
George:)
Mister greatness has never said that they had here....But they have hit the jackpot in the Croatian draw....:eek: Like Irwin says ''what goes around comes around'' And soon they'll hit here also...All 6 of them will come from that set...As I already said it many times...Just like the time that I said that 28 would come with 45 or the time that I said that 05 would come up with 31..or the many times that I said that 20-43 was coming up...Or the time when I said no numbers under 20 and decided from nowhere it seems that a high draw was to come on the very next draw...Or like that 4 out of 7 in B"C. draws and that 4 out of 8 in the U:K: draw..or that crazy run in Banco...or the Super 7 dash that you saw lately in Super 7... Can't post them all Mister greatness has too many funny ones... :lol: :clown: :agree2:
 

gsobier

Member
Re: Re: Re: Reinventing the wheel....

Dennis:

Yes, you have never said they did because they didn't yet... ...a lurker might be playing them. If they hit and you played it you win and I hope it works out for you:agree2:. I'm not going to sit on it because I've just decided not to because its a long shot. I'm using your dancing set to toss out the loosers with filters more times correctly than with failure and wheel the ones remaining... ...as you posted before, go where the fish are. I'd fish in and idea conditions any day.

There are not too many with the resouces I have. This is a way to play which is not possible for the average Joe.

Regards,
George:)
Dennis Bassboss said:
Mister greatness has never said that they had here....But they have hit the jackpot in the Croatian draw....:eek: Like Irwin says ''what goes aroud comes around'' And soon they'll hit here also...All 6 of them will come from that set...As I already said it many times...Just like the time that I said that 28 would come with 45 or the time that I said that 05 would come up with 31..or the many times that I said that 20-43 was coming up...Or the time when I said no numbers under 20 and decided from nowhere it seems that a high draw was to come on the very next draw...Or like that 4 out of 7 in B"C. draws and that 4 out of 8 in the U:K: draw..or that crazy run in Banco...or the Super 7 dash that you saw lately in Super 7... Can't post them all Mister greatness has too many funny ones... :lol: :clown: :agree2:
 

hot4

Member
martek said:
hot4, I meant to say 90% have AT LEAST 1 prime. My mistake. I've spent too much time looking at these darn numbers. :dizzy:

Ok, martek, my mistake too: there are 15 prime numbers! but the percentages are similar.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Reinventing the wheel....

gsobier said:
Dennis:

Yes, you have never said they did because they didn't yet... ...a lurker might be playing them. If they hit and you played it you win and I hope it works out for you:agree2:. I'm not going to sit on it because I've just decided not to because its a long shot. I'm using your dancing set to toss out the loosers with filters more times correctly than with failure and wheel the ones remaining... ...as you posted before, go where the fish are. I'd fish in and idea conditions any day.

There are not too many with the resouces I have. This is a way to play which is not possible for the average Joe.

Regards,
George:)
I'm sure that many Fat :baby: lurkers are devoring our posts...But as soon as these bonus draws are out Mister greatness will start to unleash many more thunderbolt .... :lol:
 

hot4

Member
Beaker said:
There are 15 primes :agree: between 1-49

You are very right Beaker :agree: Thanks for your correction. I must correct the percentages:

0 hits- 9,61758
1 hits- 29,84765
2 hits- 34,82225
3 hits- 19,47051
4 hits- 5,47608
5 hits- 0,73014
6 -hits 0,03579

We can see that 3 prime numbers are expected in 5 draws!!

Last time 3 prime numbers came, it happened in draw 08/10 (4 draws ago). As 3 PM are not overdue and it happened too in draw 04/10, as you said, may be 1 or 2 PM will come :agree: :agree:

Frank
 

gsobier

Member
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Reinventing the wheel....

Dennis:

I'm not going anywhere, I'll wait patiently. If you are worried about lurkers, there is always E-Mail:lol:.

Regards,
George:)
Dennis Bassboss said:
I'm sure that many Fat :baby: lurkers are devoring our posts...But as soon as these bonus draws are out Mister greatness will start to unleash many more thunderbolt .... :lol:
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Reinventing the wheel....

gsobier said:
Dennis:

Yes, you have never said they did because they didn't yet... ...a lurker might be playing them. If they hit and you played it you win and I hope it works out for you:agree2:. I'm not going to sit on it because I've just decided not to because its a long shot. I'm using your dancing set to toss out the loosers with filters more times correctly than with failure and wheel the ones remaining... ...as you posted before, go where the fish are. I'd fish in and idea conditions any day.

There are not too many with the resouces I have. This is a way to play which is not possible for the average Joe.

Regards,
George:)
Anyway George the best set of prime numbers in the last 50 draws are..
Quints
03-05-11-37-41
05-07-13-29-43
07-19-29-43-47
Quads
19-29-43-47 (It has come up two times)
And these came up one time...
03-05-11-37
03-05-11-41
03-05-11-47
03-05-37-41
03-11-37-41
03-11-37-47
05-07-13-29
05-07-13-43
05-07-29-43
05-11-37-41
05-13-29-43
07-13-29-43
07-19-29-43
07-19-29-47
07-19-43-47
07-29-43-47
11-13-17-41
11-13-31-37
11-17-23-47
11-17-29-41
triples(Have all come up two times)
03-05-11
03-11-37
03-11-47
07-29-43
07-29-47
11-17-41
19-29-43
19-29-47
19-43-47
29-43-47
Pairs
11-41 (has come up 5 times)
03-37(has come up 4 times)
11-17(has come up 4 times)
29-47(has come up 4 times)
And these all came up 3 times
03-11
03-47
05-13
05-37
07-29
07-37
07-43
07-47
11-37
11-47
13-41
19-47
29-43
31-37
These courtesy of Mister greatness...
:lol:
 

Beaker

Member
gsobier said:
Maggie:

5 is too many for any given combination.

We have had none for 3 official draws in a row and thats very rare:agree:.

Regards,
George:)
People people give yourselves a chance here. Playing 5 numbers to hit 2 is reasonable - unless you are only playing 8 numbers

My strategy, 6 pairs of numbers(12) to hit 1 in each of those pairs - always been that way. :agree:
 

gsobier

Member
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Reinventing the wheel....

Dennis:

Hey, that is another good one:agree:! I can exploit this stuff to the fullest real easy:agree2:.

For the time being, my selection of sets really sucks when it comes to things like this. Mostly because management of pairs for my stuff is not done right now and its killing me:bawl:. I'm admitting this because there is room for improvement here:(. This is good news because you can't fix it if you don't know what is broken. I know where and what:agree:.

Regards,
George:)
Dennis Bassboss said:
Anyway George the best set of prime numbers in the last 50 draws are..
Quints
03-05-11-37-41
05-07-13-29-43
07-19-29-43-47
Quads
19-29-43-47 (It has come up two times)
And these came up one time...
03-05-11-37
03-05-11-41
03-05-11-47
03-05-37-41
03-11-37-41
03-11-37-47
05-07-13-29
05-07-13-43
05-07-29-43
05-11-37-41
05-13-29-43
07-13-29-43
07-19-29-43
07-19-29-47
07-19-43-47
07-29-43-47
11-13-17-41
11-13-31-37
11-17-23-47
11-17-29-41
triples(Have all come up two times)
03-05-11
03-11-37
03-11-47
07-29-43
07-29-47
11-17-41
19-29-43
19-29-47
19-43-47
29-43-47
Pairs
11-41 (has come up 5 times)
03-37(has come up 4 times)
11-17(has come up 4 times)
29-47(has come up 4 times)
And these all came up 3 times
03-11
03-47
05-13
05-37
07-29
07-37
07-43
07-47
11-37
11-47
13-41
19-47
29-43
31-37
These courtesy of Mister greatness...
:lol:
 

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