Winnalotto-Sangoma 2
- Thread starter Springbok
- Start date
Hi Springbok
Your comments concerning Opening Batsmen were interesting, and I decided to have a look at it as my picks for Wednesday's draw were to put it bluntly.....miserable
I loaded the Tball history, excluding Wednesday's draw.
I noticed that three of the Tball's numbers, 3-15-20-26-30 were duplicated in the main draw:
2 3 9 15 19 26 29
I checked OB7 trip, following your comments, and came up with (on Max)
3-15-17
Then I checked OBHighProb, and got just one trip: 3-9-19, all three in the main draw. Springbok1 added 24-26 , in both draws.
I didn't go any further as prophecies tend to become self fulfilling, but you may be right in going in the OB direction!
Cheers!
Moses came to mind as well
Your comments concerning Opening Batsmen were interesting, and I decided to have a look at it as my picks for Wednesday's draw were to put it bluntly.....miserable
I loaded the Tball history, excluding Wednesday's draw.I noticed that three of the Tball's numbers, 3-15-20-26-30 were duplicated in the main draw:
2 3 9 15 19 26 29
I checked OB7 trip, following your comments, and came up with (on Max)
3-15-17
Then I checked OBHighProb, and got just one trip: 3-9-19, all three in the main draw. Springbok1 added 24-26 , in both draws.
I didn't go any further as prophecies tend to become self fulfilling, but you may be right in going in the OB direction!
Cheers!
Moses came to mind as well
Hi Barge
I am very,very happy now with the Openingbatsmen(OB). It is a killer. I am looking at the draadsiter and inbetweeners. I notice that some of my coding with them is decidedly dodgy when I increased the skips. I am redoing them all. I must say I had my suspicions with them for some time and tended to ignore them but they should be fundamentally excellent. I am shocked at my sloppy coding. Pure incompetence on my part leads to "blond" moments
I am very,very happy now with the Openingbatsmen(OB). It is a killer. I am looking at the draadsiter and inbetweeners. I notice that some of my coding with them is decidedly dodgy when I increased the skips. I am redoing them all. I must say I had my suspicions with them for some time and tended to ignore them but they should be fundamentally excellent. I am shocked at my sloppy coding. Pure incompetence on my part leads to "blond" moments
black prince
Member
Hi Patrick123
The filter works GREAT!! It's saved me from having to run 6
separate filters in a row to get the same results with 1 column filter.
I also found some mistakes I made and the corrections made the predictions
even more accurate. This is helping me to create better column filters for
winnalotto to run. It's taking time to find just the right filters, but the
results are much better than random selection of numbers. I'm beginning
to see the cycles or waves. The filters sometimes tell me when it's not
a good time to bet. This is still a work in progress, but I like the progress.
-BP
The filter works GREAT!! It's saved me from having to run 6
separate filters in a row to get the same results with 1 column filter.
I also found some mistakes I made and the corrections made the predictions
even more accurate. This is helping me to create better column filters for
winnalotto to run. It's taking time to find just the right filters, but the
results are much better than random selection of numbers. I'm beginning
to see the cycles or waves. The filters sometimes tell me when it's not
a good time to bet. This is still a work in progress, but I like the progress.
-BP
jokerh1977
Member
Patrick and Springbock
Well my Patrick and Springbok my friends, here you are. Please try to replicate this...
The Col filter I made err.. let's call it "Ultra Hot" is:
#4 = 0
and
skip(2) = 0
and
skip(3) = 0
and
skip(4) = 0
and
skip(5) = 0
and
skip(6) = 0
and
skip(7) = 0
and
skip(8) = 0
and
skip(9) = 0
and
skip(10) = 0
It doesn't have to be ten skips (work your way down if 10 doesn't give you any). Make sure you tick the filter box.
The lotto for this example is a 3 digit lotto 1-10 numbers. Here is a short history:
6 2 9
8 2 10
4 6 8
8 10 10
8 7 3
2 8 3
3 9 7
7 2 3
8 1 8
4 3 9
2 1 3
5 5 7
5 6 7
8 6 8
4 4 8
2 2 5
4 8 9
8 2 1
6 4 7
3 4 1
5 8 10
5 5 1
5 6 9
8 5 9
10 2 8
5 8 8
1 4 5
2 6 2
10 7 3
8 9 10
7 3 2
4 1 2
10 6 9
7 5 1
10 1 7
1 9 2
5 8 6
3 1 7
3 8 7
6 3 5
8 10 1
Now load 5 draws for history. Click on the past 1 drawing (trips) and look at what trips come up. Now go back and load the same history this time skipping the first line (or erase it all together if you wish). Click the current drawing (trips or course) and you can see the difference. Or try this...
Load the history above and run the "current" trip selection. Now keep track of the trips listed. Place a new fake drawing result not using any digits that were in the trips. Save it. Go back and reload. Then reload past 5 drawings and see what comes up under past 1 drawing. See?
Weird huh?
Well my Patrick and Springbok my friends, here you are. Please try to replicate this...
The Col filter I made err.. let's call it "Ultra Hot" is:
#4 = 0
and
skip(2) = 0
and
skip(3) = 0
and
skip(4) = 0
and
skip(5) = 0
and
skip(6) = 0
and
skip(7) = 0
and
skip(8) = 0
and
skip(9) = 0
and
skip(10) = 0
It doesn't have to be ten skips (work your way down if 10 doesn't give you any). Make sure you tick the filter box.
The lotto for this example is a 3 digit lotto 1-10 numbers. Here is a short history:
6 2 9
8 2 10
4 6 8
8 10 10
8 7 3
2 8 3
3 9 7
7 2 3
8 1 8
4 3 9
2 1 3
5 5 7
5 6 7
8 6 8
4 4 8
2 2 5
4 8 9
8 2 1
6 4 7
3 4 1
5 8 10
5 5 1
5 6 9
8 5 9
10 2 8
5 8 8
1 4 5
2 6 2
10 7 3
8 9 10
7 3 2
4 1 2
10 6 9
7 5 1
10 1 7
1 9 2
5 8 6
3 1 7
3 8 7
6 3 5
8 10 1
Now load 5 draws for history. Click on the past 1 drawing (trips) and look at what trips come up. Now go back and load the same history this time skipping the first line (or erase it all together if you wish). Click the current drawing (trips or course) and you can see the difference. Or try this...
Load the history above and run the "current" trip selection. Now keep track of the trips listed. Place a new fake drawing result not using any digits that were in the trips. Save it. Go back and reload. Then reload past 5 drawings and see what comes up under past 1 drawing. See?
Weird huh?
HalfBee
Member
Question for anyone that might know...
In piecing together information from this and divination thread it shows:
columns 30 to 50 are for building user filters
columns 51 to 60 are skips 6 to 15
columns 102 103 104 105 are draw results from filter evaluation
What's in columns 61 to 101? Are these for internal calculations?
I've done a few filters and find information stored there but numbers without refrence aren't that helpful. Mostly I ask out of curiosity, but Patrick's said before that 'everything' was covered in these two threads. Haven't started disecting the filters yet to see if any of them reference anything other than the area of skips 6 to 15.
In piecing together information from this and divination thread it shows:
columns 30 to 50 are for building user filters
columns 51 to 60 are skips 6 to 15
columns 102 103 104 105 are draw results from filter evaluation
What's in columns 61 to 101? Are these for internal calculations?
I've done a few filters and find information stored there but numbers without refrence aren't that helpful. Mostly I ask out of curiosity, but Patrick's said before that 'everything' was covered in these two threads. Haven't started disecting the filters yet to see if any of them reference anything other than the area of skips 6 to 15.
HalfBee
Member
Yes, the filters probably do need a bit of adjusting, mostly based on number of balls. Games with fewer like 5/39 behave a lot differently than 5/53.
I was wondering if the filters used data inside the columns I couldn't find references to what they contained. So far I haven't seen any that aren't using the ones I already know about, but have only looked at a few so far.
Have been doing ok so far limiting the pool size down and still having 3 or 4 correct within a 15 number pool (out of 39).
I was wondering if the filters used data inside the columns I couldn't find references to what they contained. So far I haven't seen any that aren't using the ones I already know about, but have only looked at a few so far.
Have been doing ok so far limiting the pool size down and still having 3 or 4 correct within a 15 number pool (out of 39).
Hi HalfBee
I have found that all lotteries produce different results to the various filters. That's why most of us spend our time running filters, backtesting, tweaking filters, backtesting, etc.
In the beginning the filters used the main columns (Maxval, Lastdraw, Median, N+x>=H) and now are concentrating more on the skips themselves. You can see the change in the ColFilters file with Winnalotto and in the various discussions in this thread with Springbok & Patrick leading the way.
I have found that all lotteries produce different results to the various filters. That's why most of us spend our time running filters, backtesting, tweaking filters, backtesting, etc.
In the beginning the filters used the main columns (Maxval, Lastdraw, Median, N+x>=H) and now are concentrating more on the skips themselves. You can see the change in the ColFilters file with Winnalotto and in the various discussions in this thread with Springbok & Patrick leading the way.
Hi Again,
Ganbatte is absolutely correct, experimentation is a major requirement using the prog. I posted a few days ago demonstrating that all the Eurolots(5/50) 5 numbers were readily produced, if only you new how to sort them from the rest
That is why we back test and experiment........and always remember, no-one will produce a prog which can easily predict lotto numbers, if they did there would be no lotteries as we know them now. We have to be patient as well....but as I recently retired, methinks I could be running out of time in a few years, so lets get a move on!!
Ganbatte is absolutely correct, experimentation is a major requirement using the prog. I posted a few days ago demonstrating that all the Eurolots(5/50) 5 numbers were readily produced, if only you new how to sort them from the rest
That is why we back test and experiment........and always remember, no-one will produce a prog which can easily predict lotto numbers, if they did there would be no lotteries as we know them now. We have to be patient as well....but as I recently retired, methinks I could be running out of time in a few years, so lets get a move on!!
black prince
Member
Hi Ganbatte
You are right. It's better to understand how column filters work not only to
tweak them for other lotto's, but to improve their percision. Also, it's good
to understand how to develope your own filters in winnalotto. It takes
some work-arounds at times to figure out how to get the filter to perform,
but the results could stunning. I was lucky when my 5/30 worked great
using the default column filters, but tweaking the filters to get the same
results with 5/43 is taking me time.
-BP
You are right. It's better to understand how column filters work not only to
tweak them for other lotto's, but to improve their percision. Also, it's good
to understand how to develope your own filters in winnalotto. It takes
some work-arounds at times to figure out how to get the filter to perform,
but the results could stunning. I was lucky when my 5/30 worked great
using the default column filters, but tweaking the filters to get the same
results with 5/43 is taking me time.
-BP
Hi Patrick
In attempting to further reduce the selection of numbers down to a reasonable level I am trying to use a combination of Winnalotto and the old standards of sum, o/e, adjacent span, large, small and trendlines.
Unfortunately none of these are possible with Winnalotto at the moment. Could you please tell me if at some stage Winnalotto will be able to analyse the full recent draw (all 6 or 7 numbers) as well as balls, pairs and trips.
In attempting to further reduce the selection of numbers down to a reasonable level I am trying to use a combination of Winnalotto and the old standards of sum, o/e, adjacent span, large, small and trendlines.
Unfortunately none of these are possible with Winnalotto at the moment. Could you please tell me if at some stage Winnalotto will be able to analyse the full recent draw (all 6 or 7 numbers) as well as balls, pairs and trips.
Hi Springbok
I was browsing through Ion's site when I noticed that he mentioned pairing decades, static & dynamic deltas in a thread reply to you.
As the SA lotto tends to favour decade grouping in 2, 3 and now 4 out of 7 balls, I was wondering if there were any filters to effectively analyse this.
I also know that a lot of people reject deltas but combined with everything else might provide some useful information.
I was browsing through Ion's site when I noticed that he mentioned pairing decades, static & dynamic deltas in a thread reply to you.
As the SA lotto tends to favour decade grouping in 2, 3 and now 4 out of 7 balls, I was wondering if there were any filters to effectively analyse this.
I also know that a lot of people reject deltas but combined with everything else might provide some useful information.
Patrick123
Member
Hi Guys,
I've added the BushHappy elimination method into WinnaLotto.
Current release is WinnaLotto 17 July 2008 Build 1.
Details on how this method works are here:
http://www.lotto649.ws/lotto-tips-strategies/11138-bushhappys-elimination-method-2.html
Essentially the analysis has 2 buttons:
Show Stats
This will show you the maximum frequencies over the draws in increments of 5 draws from 5 to 100.
Show Current
This is a what if scenario where the program takes the last (n-1) draws counts the frequency for that number and adds 1 to the value as if the ball has just been drawn. If this value exceeds the maximum frequency, the ball and the failing frequencies are flagged.
You can then make this criteria tighter or looser by adding or subtracting from the maximum value.
On the Purging screen, under purge 4, I've given you 3 options.
You can purge the numbers based on Bushhappy's original analysis for the SA lotto.
You can put your own frequency values in.
You can purge based on the Bushhappy analysis screen, either by individual number of the maximum number frequency for each draw group. Once again making it tighter or looser as you require.
Regards
Patrick
ps I'll very likely not be available for about 2 weeks from tomorrow as I have some project work to complete.
I've added the BushHappy elimination method into WinnaLotto.
Current release is WinnaLotto 17 July 2008 Build 1.
Details on how this method works are here:
http://www.lotto649.ws/lotto-tips-strategies/11138-bushhappys-elimination-method-2.html
Essentially the analysis has 2 buttons:
Show Stats
This will show you the maximum frequencies over the draws in increments of 5 draws from 5 to 100.
Show Current
This is a what if scenario where the program takes the last (n-1) draws counts the frequency for that number and adds 1 to the value as if the ball has just been drawn. If this value exceeds the maximum frequency, the ball and the failing frequencies are flagged.
You can then make this criteria tighter or looser by adding or subtracting from the maximum value.
On the Purging screen, under purge 4, I've given you 3 options.
You can purge the numbers based on Bushhappy's original analysis for the SA lotto.
You can put your own frequency values in.
You can purge based on the Bushhappy analysis screen, either by individual number of the maximum number frequency for each draw group. Once again making it tighter or looser as you require.
Regards
Patrick
ps I'll very likely not be available for about 2 weeks from tomorrow as I have some project work to complete.
Patrick123
Member
The download site is:
http://www.onyxsa.co.za/timedesign/WinnaLotto.zip
You will notice the Header Caption contains 17 July 2008 Build 1.
There is another tab called 'BushHappy'.
Everything else is the same.
http://www.onyxsa.co.za/timedesign/WinnaLotto.zip
You will notice the Header Caption contains 17 July 2008 Build 1.
There is another tab called 'BushHappy'.
Everything else is the same.