Winnalotto-Sangoma 2

johnph77

Member
ganbatte said:
Hi Patrick

My first two suggestions would be to increase the amount of balls to 90 to cater for the SuperEna lottery in Italy (90/6) and to cater for Powerball-type games.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperEnalotto/

Just to let you know, according to this article in the Wikipedia, the payout percentage in this game is a paltry 35%, as opposed to the more normal ~50% in most other government-operated lotteries.

The bonus ball is called the "JollyBall".

There is now a separate multiplier bet available called "SuperStar" which can multiply one's winnings up to 100 times the original prize.
 

ganbatte

Member
johnph77 said:
Just to let you know, according to this article in the Wikipedia, the payout percentage in this game is a paltry 35%, as opposed to the more normal ~50% in most other government-operated lotteries.
Thanks for the info johnph77 but even with odds of 1 in 622,614,630 the tax free huge jackpots are too much of a temptation to pass up an occasional attempt.

Out of the remaining "big" international lotteries we have access to, Euromillions has the lowest odds of 1 in 76,275,360, while Mega Millions is 1 in 175,711,536.

I am sure that Patrick has some brilliant ideas to decrease those odds :look:
 

struxo

Member
sniper

Hi all,
i tested sniper technique again and get same results as a year ago. Test is made with swedish lotto 7/35.
I loaded draws and checked single numbers. If number had under 40% then it came in next draw or draw after.
Now i'm gonna test pairs and trips.

regards
struxo
 
Sniper

Hi Struxo,
sniper
Hi all,
i tested sniper technique again and get same results as a year ago. Test is made with swedish lotto 7/35.
I loaded draws and checked single numbers. If number had under 40% then it came in next draw or draw after.
Now i'm gonna test pairs and trips.

regards
struxo

Can you post the sniper filter or show me where I can get this filter :)

Thanks

-BP
 

struxo

Member
Hi BP

it's not filter. Just load draws and open Drawing Analysis. Press Balls and under you can find percentage. Just check percentage for every number.
I hope this help. Happy hunting :)

regards
struxo
 
Sniper

Originally Poster Struxo
Hi BP

it's not filter. Just load draws and open Drawing Analysis. Press Balls and under you can find percentage. Just check percentage for every number.
I hope this help. Happy hunting

regards
struxo

Just tried it and 12 was predicted to show. It showed :lphant:

Thanks

-BP
 

bloubul

Member
Hi Struxo, BP

Thanks for the info. Mine also showed a 3 that came up.
May please ask for more help. On the "Drawing Analysis" at the bottom you have the following boxes to "Check or Uncheck" Wrap, Sort, than you must select from "Show % from, "default 500", for next "default 2", over "default 4", skip ranges. What must I change here.... I'm playing 6/49

Thanks

BlouBul :cool:
 

ganbatte

Member
Sniper technique

From my experimentation it seems as if the sniper technique needs to be fine tuned for the SA lottery as our sniper percentages range anywhere from 22% to 100% from draw to draw.

I think that it could be a great additional technique as it worked for Springbok on the UK lotto.

Just remember the percentages vary according to the number of lines and balls loaded.
 

bloubul

Member
Hi ganbatte

To be honest I don't think that it was the only method Springbok used. He played single numbers with great success, that he had a vast array of methods can not be argued.

Back to our problem. I still think it lies here:"Show % from, "default 500", for next "default 2", over "default 4", skip ranges." We must change something here. Or can you show me how to write a formula to counter this.

BlouBul :cool:
 

struxo

Member
to bloubul

That things you mentioned is for filter testing. I'm didn't used that (once or twice) but in begining of this tread on page 3 post #43 you can find Patrick's webpage and there is WinnaLotto manual. Download it and study. I'm afraid i can't help too much with that tool.
Maybe to ask Patrick.
I use sniper with lotto i play, swedish 7/35. I take numbers with percent under 40 and one number with History high as key number. One pair history high and one trips with history high.

I just try to keep it simple. :)

regards
struxo
 

bloubul

Member
Hi struxo
Thanks for your reply. I have download the WinnaLotto manual, but WinRAR tells me there is a problem with the file, so I cannot open it. But help me in the mean time. How do I write a filter to select the best 11 #'s,

Thanks.

BlouBul :cool:
 

ganbatte

Member
Hi Bloubul

bloubul said:
How do I write a filter to select the best 11 #'s
I am sure that Struxo will tell you that there is no such thing as a filter to select the best 11 numbers using Winnalotto.

You have to do try all the filters provided with Winnalotto and see if they work for your lottery when backtesting. If they give you too many numbers or they give you the wrong numbers then you have to write your own filters using the information provided by everyone in this thread.

As Patrick has said:

WinnaLotto is ... designed to help you analyse the behaviour of the balls. Using the filters made by other people and those that you can create yourself, you should be able to isolate the balls with a higher potential of being drawn.
One of the major problems with some filters, is the pure amount of rows that come back, to the point nearly every number is selected somewhere.
Good luck.
 

struxo

Member
hi all

ganbatte is right. Just test some filters (WinnaLotto comes with alot of them) and see what you get. Skip last draw and check some filters. Is there any of numbers from last draw. If is then use those filters and backtest. So you can see which of them work most of the time.

Well, i have another idea. I just played with numbers and find this. It's similar to history
high:
- write numbers from 0-9
- start from last draw and look only last numbers ( if 14 then take 4)
- cross numbers 0-9
- last number left uncross, play all numbers with that last number (if 6 then play 6,16,26,36,46)
- be glad when some of them come in next draw :lphant:

regards
struxo
 
Neighboring Pairs

Post Originated from Struxo
That things you mentioned is for filter testing. I'm didn't used that (once or twice) but in begining of this tread on page 3 post #43 you can find Patrick's webpage and there is WinnaLotto manual. Download it and study. I'm afraid i can't help too much with that tool.
Maybe to ask Patrick.
I use sniper with lotto i play, swedish 7/35. I take numbers with percent under 40 and one number with History high as key number. One pair history high and one trips with history high.

I just try to keep it simple.

When "Snipe" predicts number(s) it could be within the next 1 to 3 draws
in my experience. I combine this with neighboring pairs such as "(1,2),(2,3),
.....(28,29),(29,30)" and so on. In every 10 to 12 drawings there are at least
6 or more neighboring pairs. Neighboring pairs do not repeat as much, there-
fore you can use past draws to remove pairs that have already appeared.
I created a filter to extract all neighboring pairs. I use the "Double Hit Perc"
to rule them out. If there is a percent then it can be used. This method looks
promising, but backtesting takes time.

-BP
 

bloubul

Member
Hi BP

Did you write your filter with a .clm extention or with a .flt extention.
How did you write the filter to remove the neighboring pairs???

BlouBul :cool:
 
Neighboring Pairs

Post originated from BlouBul:
Hi BP

Did you write your filter with a .clm extention or with a .flt extention.
How did you write the filter to remove the neighboring pairs???

BlouBul

This method is tested for 5/30 only. Balls that have appeared 4 or more
times in the last 12 draws are ruled out for returning in the next draw.
The pairs they would have produced is therefore removed. For example, if
the number 21 has returned four times in the last 12 draws then pairs
(20,21) and (21,22) are ruled out. I'm now looking at numbers that have
not shown at all in the last 12 draws as possible long shots and they
too could be used to rule out more numbers. The tests I have produced
so far are stable and seem to work with backtesting. I'm looking for a
method to predict key numbers and very, very hot numbers :)

-BP
 

bloubul

Member
Hi All you WinnaLotto- Sangoma users.

It’s been 3½ years since the last post of Black Prince which was on 15/12/2009.
Has anyone any big success with WinnaLotto-Sangome to date. Let’s hear from you, the BP, Fullhouse, Struxo etc. etc.

BlouBul :cool:
 

bloubul

Member
Hi All

After 63,385 views and 736 replies no one has any big success.. I don't believe it. Come on and tell us.

BlouBul :cool:
 

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