Winnalotto-Sangoma 2
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Patrick123
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Hi Guys,
Remember I'm still trying to decipher the rest of Bushhappy's workings so this is still a Work in Progress.
Regards
Patrick
Remember I'm still trying to decipher the rest of Bushhappy's workings so this is still a Work in Progress.
Regards
Patrick
Patrick123
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Springbok said:
Sawubona Springbok,
Interesting....
There is still a lot of niggly bits I want to tidy up in the program, so this will most probably be my chance as there's nothing much that happens in the evenings in Lesotho.
Regards
Patrick
Patrick123
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Only a pleasure Flexalong.
Happy Birthday barge
, Wish you all the best 
Regards
Patrick
Happy Birthday barge
, Wish you all the best Regards
Patrick
Hello Barge
I am not into BushHappy's methods at the moment so I cannot help you. Yes the filters can be accurate. I spent some time during the weekend testing the Opening Batsmen in the 7/49 game. They have spells of extreme accuracy then fall apart and then come right again. For example I used the trips going back 58 draws which is equivalent to a month's drawing on the 49s. I used a slightly increased bet level. £1 per pair number for the next draw and if no luck then £1.50 for each number for the second draw. I only bet for the max of 2 draws. Initial fighting fund was £5. At the end of the month it generated £25. there was an occasion of 4 back to back failures which hit the fighting fund but it recovered. When using trips the opening batsmen become inbetweeners.
I am not into BushHappy's methods at the moment so I cannot help you. Yes the filters can be accurate. I spent some time during the weekend testing the Opening Batsmen in the 7/49 game. They have spells of extreme accuracy then fall apart and then come right again. For example I used the trips going back 58 draws which is equivalent to a month's drawing on the 49s. I used a slightly increased bet level. £1 per pair number for the next draw and if no luck then £1.50 for each number for the second draw. I only bet for the max of 2 draws. Initial fighting fund was £5. At the end of the month it generated £25. there was an occasion of 4 back to back failures which hit the fighting fund but it recovered. When using trips the opening batsmen become inbetweeners.
jokerh1977
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Regarding Bushhappy
Well, thanks to Bloubul I have been studying BushHappy's original Excel sheets. Like Bloubul I am having issues with using them, but I do understand the premise behind them.
Patrick, you have implemented the basic occurrence count and thank you for that. However, like BushHappy stated in the past his Occurrence Interval and Consecutive Occurrences were MUCH more accurate. After working numbers on paper and laboriously manually counting, I have to agree. (Unfortunately I have zero programming skills.
) These two ideas can help with including and excluding numbers.
For those who don't know, the Occ. Interval is looking at how many skips between the frequency n/x. Let's say 5 hits out of 10 draws has never gone over an interval of 15 draws. One could include the numbers that fall into this category. Consecutive Occ. is looking at how many times the n/x has hit in a row. Let's say the 7/10 has never hit in three consecutive draws, we could exclude those numbers that fit that criteria.
Patrick, I know you are busy for a while but is there any way to implement this on the BushHappy section of WinnaLotto?
Thanks!
Joker
PS
Patrick on page 37 are the details and example of the error I spoke of regarding backtesting.
Well, thanks to Bloubul I have been studying BushHappy's original Excel sheets. Like Bloubul I am having issues with using them, but I do understand the premise behind them.
Patrick, you have implemented the basic occurrence count and thank you for that. However, like BushHappy stated in the past his Occurrence Interval and Consecutive Occurrences were MUCH more accurate. After working numbers on paper and laboriously manually counting, I have to agree. (Unfortunately I have zero programming skills.
) These two ideas can help with including and excluding numbers. For those who don't know, the Occ. Interval is looking at how many skips between the frequency n/x. Let's say 5 hits out of 10 draws has never gone over an interval of 15 draws. One could include the numbers that fall into this category. Consecutive Occ. is looking at how many times the n/x has hit in a row. Let's say the 7/10 has never hit in three consecutive draws, we could exclude those numbers that fit that criteria.
Patrick, I know you are busy for a while but is there any way to implement this on the BushHappy section of WinnaLotto?
Thanks!
Joker
PS
Patrick on page 37 are the details and example of the error I spoke of regarding backtesting.
Hi Bloubul,
My Exceedskip69 is a blank, I was reading the base filter! I hadn't written the formula.................
Springbok,
Yet again the similarities between draws a la Moses is very apparent. Also,
my calcs for the Tball actually produced four of the Main Lot hits..........and to add insult etc, it was on level 3!
Drawing board springs to mind
My Exceedskip69 is a blank, I was reading the base filter! I hadn't written the formula.................
Springbok,
Yet again the similarities between draws a la Moses is very apparent. Also,
my calcs for the Tball actually produced four of the Main Lot hits..........and to add insult etc, it was on level 3!
Drawing board springs to mind
black prince
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Hi Jokerh1977
Could you give me some examples using draws and numbers. I'm trying
to write a GWBASIC programs that filters out BushHappy's eliminations.
I will share the code when I've finish testing.
-BP
Could you give me some examples using draws and numbers. I'm trying
to write a GWBASIC programs that filters out BushHappy's eliminations.
I will share the code when I've finish testing.
-BP
Flexalong
Member
jokerh1977 said:
Hi Jokerh1977,
Even after looking at the above paragraph, I still don't get how to derive the values for Occ interval and Consecutive Occ. If its not too much trouble, can you explain how to do so with reference to the Bushhappy's excel sheets?
Thanks in advance.
Flexalong
jokerh1977
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Flex I can't reference it to BH's excel sheets because I'm a bit lost by his layout there... I'll try to explain it better though.
Occ Interval:
Imagine it as a snapshot. Let's say the past 100 draws. We'll use the number "5" as an example. We see how many times the number 5 has hit in the past 100 draws, let's say 12 times. Now we go back 1 draw and take another snapshot of the past 100 draws. This time the number 5 has hit 11 times. Go back 1 more draw and take another 100 draw snapshot. The number 5 has hit 12 times. So for the past three draws we see that 5 has hit 12/100, 11/100, and 12/100. The Occ. Interval is the skip of "1" between the 12 and 12. Of course we would be looking all the way back in time to see all the hits out of a hundred and what their intervals were. Let's say that 12/100 for the digit 5 never skipped more than 25 draws. Now our current draw is at 25 skips and we are at 11/100. We would then bet that the number 5 would appear next draw.
The Consecutive Occ. is similar. How many times has the digit 5 been at 12/100 in a row. If the highest it has ever consecutively been at 12/100 was three times in a row, and we are currently sitting at three- then we would bet that it will NOT show 4 times in a row.
The are snapshots of 100 or 90 or 5 or 10 drawings or whatever your choice. We, of course, would be looking at all the digits as well.
Understand?
Occ Interval:
Imagine it as a snapshot. Let's say the past 100 draws. We'll use the number "5" as an example. We see how many times the number 5 has hit in the past 100 draws, let's say 12 times. Now we go back 1 draw and take another snapshot of the past 100 draws. This time the number 5 has hit 11 times. Go back 1 more draw and take another 100 draw snapshot. The number 5 has hit 12 times. So for the past three draws we see that 5 has hit 12/100, 11/100, and 12/100. The Occ. Interval is the skip of "1" between the 12 and 12. Of course we would be looking all the way back in time to see all the hits out of a hundred and what their intervals were. Let's say that 12/100 for the digit 5 never skipped more than 25 draws. Now our current draw is at 25 skips and we are at 11/100. We would then bet that the number 5 would appear next draw.
The Consecutive Occ. is similar. How many times has the digit 5 been at 12/100 in a row. If the highest it has ever consecutively been at 12/100 was three times in a row, and we are currently sitting at three- then we would bet that it will NOT show 4 times in a row.
The are snapshots of 100 or 90 or 5 or 10 drawings or whatever your choice. We, of course, would be looking at all the digits as well.
Understand?
black prince
Member
Jokerh1977
Jokerh1977
When you say digit 5, do you mean number 5 or numbers whose last digit
end in with 5. I understand the rest,but how could a spreadsheet run throught
all the iterations of moving 1 to 100 each time testing the next draw? Seems
that a program would solve this faster. This may be why BushHappy requested
someone write a program to increase the accuracy of the predictions. You use
a range of 1 to 100. How would the range be selected or is it another variable to
test in finding accuracy?
-BP
Jokerh1977
When you say digit 5, do you mean number 5 or numbers whose last digit
end in with 5. I understand the rest,but how could a spreadsheet run throught
all the iterations of moving 1 to 100 each time testing the next draw? Seems
that a program would solve this faster. This may be why BushHappy requested
someone write a program to increase the accuracy of the predictions. You use
a range of 1 to 100. How would the range be selected or is it another variable to
test in finding accuracy?
-BP
jokerh1977
Member
black prince said:
I mean the lotto number "5". No end digits. The ranges are fixed such as: 5, 10, 15, 20... 95, 100. Each lotto number would have its own history of how many hits out of x draws. One could create a macro on a spreadsheet to run the the past drawings. However, Patrick already has laid the foundation in Winnalotto.
jokerh1977
Member
Flexalong said:Thanks for taking the time to explain, Jokerh1977. Its hard to grasp without referencing to the documents, because I want to know where to look at. But its ok, I will just neglect this part for now.
Sorry Flex,
Maybe someone else can explain it more clearly than I. It is a bit confusing.