Winnalotto-Sangoma 2

bloubul

Member
Sir Patrick

I'm like a kid with a new toy, and with the "HELP" of Springbok "PLEASE HELP US" I recon between 3 to 4 draws and we "KLAP THEM GOOD". In life we all must craul first and than walk, it is the same here.

BlouBul :cool:
 

Springbok

Member
Bonjour Patrick

Difficult to comment. At work and don't have software on the computer. For the Any filters I need Mdied and the medians of each Any filter. The Bright 6 mirror some of the Any filters but it has the supreme advantage of layers. A typical file will have 4 layers of the ANy filters. So with 10 files you have about 40 layers to seek out the probable setting for the next draw of the ANy filters. Normally the first layer of each file is the same for the ANY filter. Are familiar with the VER filters? For example the VER6 filter looks at the verticality of the columns. SO if a VER6 report gives 15 then it means the numbers in the last draw came from their respective columns in the last 16draws. The count always starts from zero.

If you want to introduce the Any filter you have to have the facility for a programme to compute the median so as to guide us on the necessary direction of the filter in the next draw. While the Any filter is useful using the real layer, the Any filter in many different layers is even more useful and accurate. If you wanted to introduce layers then you need to do 2 things. First you will need a simulated data file-say 10,000 random random(pseudorandom) draws. Then you will need to slice the 10,000 draws into groups of 100(to be safe). So 10,000 draws will give you 100 layers. Secondly(I will make this as simple as possible) you take the say last 10 real draws-I assume you will stick them in a variable. These 10 draws will be placed on top of each 100 layer and the Any filter is calculated for each layer as well as the median. The results will be written to a file for a person to read.

There is an interesting thing with the Any6 filter. It gives you the pool of where the winning numbers came from. With many layers you can use many pools. Under experimental what if scenarios I have been able to produce pools from 9 to 15 numbers if you can work out the Max setting for each layer. For example if you get a max setting of 12 in layer 23 then it means that any number beyond the skip of 13 is a no no for the next draw.

Of course these ideas produce a more powerful programme and make it more complicated. A problem you will encounter is that because of the vast amount a calculations and looping the Windows framework will slow it down. That is why most Saliu's stuff is DOS based.
 

bloubul

Member
Hi to All

I'm here by making a very boult statement. Please pay attention to the last parragraph.

There’s nothing wrong with researching a subject and finding as much useful information as possible. That is the way humans typically learn anything. It has been proven to be the best way to build a foundation of knowledge on any subject.
The time comes though, when it becomes important to start thinking for yourself. You must begin to questioning, verifying and even challenging the basic knowledge you have. You must begin to forge new ideas by exploring unknown territory and formulate new theories by independent thought.
People who are willing to make this effort will be rewarded by making new discoveries and by adding those new discoveries to the body of knowledge. This has been the process of progress.
Without it, the human race would still be relying on lightning strikes as the only source of fire.
Winners will make the effort and prosper. Losers will make no effort and wonder why they never win. Therefore I’m very sorry that I don’t get your method or thinking. The public calls it Mental disorientation, I call it “short delivery”, rest to follow.

YES I DO SUFFER FROM EPILEPSY, not the kind from foaming of the mouth and falling on the ground and “RUK EN PLUK”, my brain just cut out. So when I say I don’t understand please bear this in mind. It’s difficult to explain, I do forget sometimes what was said before, but other than that I live a normal live
 

Patrick123

Member
Goiemore BlouBul,

It's going to take me at least 2 days to absorb Springbok's last post :)

The best thing I can say is that some of it's starting to sink in. The proof is a consistent win of 3 balls or 3 + bonus or both over the last month!!!! I'm not a millionaire, but it's way above anything I would have every thought possible.

The beauty of a forum like this is that it allows us to communicate our thought processes as well as learn from other peoples. It kicks us out of our little rut and shows us that there are other ways to skin the proverbial cat no matter how unusual that skinning method is. If it works, that's good enough for me :)

Regards
Patrick
 

bloubul

Member
Monseur Patrick

Well I got myself and 4 others in our "SUNGOMA" syndicate = R500.00:bounce2:
Thus plus your R100.00 :bounce: = R600.00. So we wait for joesam??. I hope he respond soon.:notme:

BlouBul :cool:
 

bloubul

Member
Morena Patrick123

Yes dis die gees wat ek wil sien :dancer:
Ons gaan hulle :Goed Klap"
Yes Yes ViVa ViVa
BlouBul :cool:
 

Patrick123

Member
Mr. BlouBul,

I'm already working on the draw for Saturday. :)

I've noticed there might be a problem in the Purging - Purge 2- Remove rows matching rows with X or more numbers. Now and again it basically removes all the rows. Will check out & report back.

We've got Vernon Koekemoer (South Africa's Chuck Norris) on our side!!!

Regards
Patrick
 

bloubul

Member
Morena Patrick123

Wanneer gaan ons slaap????
Op hierdie oomblik is dit net ek en JY, die res slaap, As I said before we need Springbok's input. We need 9 numbers, 20 lines 6if6, we home and dry, thus the more help we can get the more money in our pocekts.

BlouBul :cool:
 

Patrick123

Member
Ntate BlouBul,

Springbok, is still at work, they are about an hour behind us, He'll most probably catch up with us when he gets home :) for the moment, another glass of Nederburg, will ease the anxiety.

20 @ 6if6 would be fantastic!!! but we'll most probably have to set our sights a bit lower initially :)

Regards
Patrick
 

bloubul

Member
Patrick123

When Springbok smell's money, he will be Unstoppable, but for us "PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS". As I said before max 4 draws and we "GLAP them GOOD"

We Have to trust one another.

BlouBul :cool:
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi BlouBul,

I agree, we must figure out the best method of game play. Are we each going to take a selection of numbers, for Springbok to crunch, or take the numbers that are in common with our selections or what suggestions do you guys have?

Regards
Patrick
 
Patrick123


Originated from Patrick123
Hi BP,
There is still a lot that need to be done, and generating the complete set of combinations will be one of them. At this stage the main reason why it has not been done, is because I'll most probably have to use a file to store large combinations namely for keno or when more than about 20 balls are selected for the lotto.

I can create all combinations from my Winnalotto selections using BRIGHT5.
So is it possible to create a load button for this file in the Purge Screen
and then use filters to reduce draws. I can save file as txt or csv.

Thanks

-BP
 

Springbok

Member
Guten Abend Herr Patrick

It is important to understand the concept of layers. It was Saliu's most brilliant discovery. I look at each layer as a parallel universe a la quantum. You can create an unlimited number of these parallel universes or layers. The more the merrier. The real draws are superimposed on them to produce a statistical report for the various filters. So the real draws are reflected in these parallel universes. The computer creates these universes by randomly generating combinations. Lets say you generate one million combinations and you slice them into groups of 100 you then have created 10,000 layers or universes. You then superimpose the last 10(or whatever) real draws on each layer to get a statistical report. You search the reports for favourable trends in the filters. Because of the vast amount of layers you need a computer to do the analysis and pull out favourable trends.

Let me give an example. In the 632 programme the All filter seeks out one number. If in the reporting you see 0 then it means one number came from the previous draw. If you see 1 then it means one number came from 2 draws ago. What you look for is for the All filter to have missed in the last 3 draws. This indicates a reversal and one number from the line will hit next draw. Let's say in layer three (lines 4001,4002,4003) have not hit in the last 3 draws then we will expect one number from 4001 to hit. Statistically it is hot. Remember the reporting on those lines is a reflection of the last three real draws. Those lines themselves were previously randomly generated. The best way is to run the older 632 and see how this happens. With 632 you only have to contend with a minimum of around 10,000 lines vs 500,000(or more) in Bright6.

An easy way to show this is the generate some 6 number combinations. Go down the previous real draws and mark if a number hit. I mark a hit with an H and a miss with an M.

12...17...24...38....39...43 H/M/M/H/M/H/M/M/M

In the reporting you will see that a number from the last three real draws did not come from that line.Remember the line is not a real draw line as it was generated by a computer. So we expect one of those numbers to hit next draw. The real draws were reflected on that line and a statistical report was produced. Once you get the hang of it it is quite simple. That random line is a parallel uninverse and the statistical report shows how it reflects the real draw or draws over a number of draws.
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Patrick again

To show how I purged Joesam's pool of numbers. I wrote them in a single line and put them in a file. I used the Break function in a program called UTIL6.exe. It broke down those numbers into a full wheel of 8008 combinations, I had a file of 500,000 odd combinations. The real SA draws on the top of hundreds of thousands of simulated draws. I called the file D1. Joesam's 8008 combinations were in a file called X. The statistical reporting on the del6 filter indicated that the past real draws never hit in the previous real draws(500,000 odd). So it is a pretty safe assumption to say that none of those draws in D1 will hit next draw. Now I use the PURGE function in Combine.exe. What it does it looks at each combination in X and checks to see if it occurred in D1. If it did, then it was deleted. It would do this for each of those combinations in X. If any combination in X was not in D1 then that combination would be written to an output file. The computer would theoretically perform 4.004e+09 loops to complete the task. No combinations were written to an output file and I knew that the pool was hopeless if we were looking for the jackpot 6 number hit.
 

bloubul

Member
Hi joesam

Welcome in our "SUNGOMA" syndicate, please get hold of Patrick123 ASAP so he can foreward me your details

BlouBul :cool:
 

bloubul

Member
Hi Springbok

I'm following your Zero 3 filter to the letter,
"Originated from Springbok
Hi Black Prince
Look very carefully at trips which have zeros for the last three skips. Look at this filter

zero3
#20 = 0
and
#21 = #20
and
#22 = #20
and
#23 > #20 "

WinnaLotto puls 417 lines, Skip1 to Skip3 contains "0" Skip4 and Skip5 contains values, I even have " Show All Skips" open aswell, but here are no "000" I get a few "00" and "0000"
I'm lost in the ocean of numbers.

BlouBul :cool:
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi joesam,
It should be straightforward to contact me via the website where you download WinnaLotto from.

My selection for the Saturday Draw is
14 16 18 20 21 22 23 28 29 34 42 44 46 48 49

It seems like an extremely unusual bunch of numbers, but then we've had some weird draws lately.
My personal feeling is that I should 'salt' these numbers with some that have a 5 or 7 digit ending.

I will upload an update for WinnaLotto later on today. BP, I've added in a complete combination generator, it stores everything in memory, I'd suggest not to generate mega sized combinations it should handle 1 million or 3 no problem. I'll add in a feature to load your own file as well.

The rows with x amount matching now works fine. I've added the feature you can decide 'more' or 'less' for some of the filters. Another filter added is for removing rows were the value of the ball in column x exceeds a set value.

You are also able to select rows and delete them.

Springbok, I'll start looking at the possibility of getting something similar, albeit not as good, working.

Regards
Patrick
 

bloubul

Member
Patrick123 said:
Hi BlouBul,

I agree, we must figure out the best method of game play. Are we each going to take a selection of numbers, for Springbok to crunch, or take the numbers that are in common with our selections or what suggestions do you guys have?

Regards
Patrick

Yes I think we must take that root to send it beforehand to Springbok, he just have a nick with WinnaLotto, so if he return to us say with 3 key #'s I think we will be able to add one number more is 28 lines, but if he comes back with 4 key numbers, we sure can start looking to go and visit him in the UK.

BlouBul :cool:
 

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