Discussion May 7 ,2003

Beaker

Member
We have one of the top wheel software developers here George, Nick Koutras.

He could spin up a 30 number wheel for 100 tickets - no problem - with his software - and maximize it for 4 number hits.

It might be worth it to see that to compare.:agree:
 

gsobier

Member
Beaker:

Well, there ya go... ...I found a wheel for 30 on the internet and it did not perform well at all. It also created 900 sets instead of 100.

A wheel of the 19 for 10 sets would be helpful please.

Regards,
George

Beaker said:
We have one of the top wheel software developers here George, Nick Koutras.

He could spin up a 30 number wheel for 100 tickets - no problem - with his software - and maximize it for 4 number hits.

It might be worth it to see that to compare.:agree:
 

Beaker

Member
gsobier said:
Beaker:

Well, there ya go... ...I found a wheel for 30 on the internet and it did not perform well at all. It also created 900 sets instead of 100.

A wheel of the 19 for 10 sets would be helpful please.

Regards,
George
For future information, Nick will do limited requests in the 'Wheels' section of the site. I will post your request there. :agree:
 

Beaker

Member
Dennis Bassboss said:
Put an 08 instead of that 18... :agree:
OK, I made the changes in the lists :agree2: - but I won't reorder :no:

Very interesting - the sums are very close and the number of tickets with no decade 1 is out by 1 ticket :eek:

Only 4 numbers common in the top 10 - :16-29-38-43

I'd like to see a 30 number/100 ticket wheel to compare. :agree:
 
gsobier said:
Would you like me to run your sets in my filtering Dennis to see what we get?
Why not? It might help shrinking it a lot more...It is the first time that I test this sofware with so many....In the past I ran some lines using the 49 numbers aiming at 20 lines and most often 10 lines...It got 2 out of 6 lots and lots of time ...many 3 out of 6....not so many hits from 4 out of 4 but a few ones...and 2 hits from 5 out of 6(in the same draw...Don't worry I did not play them)...It has never hit for 6 out of 6 from 10 lines nor from 20 lines... :eek2: :eek3:
 
Beaker said:
OK, I made the changes in the lists :agree2: - but I won't reorder :no:

Very interesting - the sums are very close and the number of tickets with no decade 1 is out by 1 ticket :eek:

Only 4 numbers common in the top 10 - :16-29-38-43

I'd like to see a 30 number/100 ticket wheel to compare. :agree:
I can also provide this...but even better I can provide an optimized set from a full wheel out of 30....Got to reduce the garranty even more jumping to a smaller garanty should get around 50% to 55% covering for 100...I'm home for lunch but after 4 o'clock this afternoon I'll set it up too... :agree:
 

Beaker

Member
Dennis Bassboss said:
I can also provide this...but even better I can provide an optimized set from a full wheel out of 30....Got to reduce the garranty even more jumping to a smaller garanty should get around 50% to 55% covering for 100...I'm home for lunch but after 4 o'clock this afternoon I'll set it up too... :agree:
OK, well if you have the time, let's see it. :agree:

Just did a quick run with covermaster 4if6 is 60% cover. :agree:
 

gsobier

Member
Dennis:

I've got some things to do and then I'll do a filter on your sets.

Regards,
George

Dennis Bassboss said:
Why not? It might help shrinking it a lot more...It is the first time that I test this sofware with so many....In the past I ran some lines using the 49 numbers aiming at 20 lines and most often 10 lines...It got 2 out of 6 lots and lots of time ...many 3 out of 6....not so many hits from 4 out of 4 but a few ones...and 2 hits from 5 out of 6(in the same draw...Don't worry I did not play them)...It has never hit for 6 out of 6 from 10 lines nor from 20 lines... :eek2: :eek3:
 

gsobier

Member
Lunch

I had lunch with my senior partner in the lottery pool and we have decided to continue the 30 numbers in sets just as we have been doing. We have made some profit from the wins so, we are going to expand things.

The plan is (sort of a CYA thing)...
(5 sets of each variation for a total of 30 more)
5 from the 30, 1 from the tossed out
4 from the 30, 2 from the tossed out
3 from the 30, 3 from the tossed out
2 from the 30, 4 from the tossed out
1 from the 30, 5 from the tossed out
0 from the 30, 6 from the tossed out

Snagging a win this way is possible too as we all know.

If there is a major win from all this, lunch is on me for all who helped make it happen:)!

Regards,
George
 
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gsobier

Member
Dennis:

Who was the clown who wrote that code??? Not being able to import data is awful! I appreciate your effort:)!!

Regards,
George

Dennis Bassboss said:
Here are my 100 Georges!!
Corrected it was 08 istead of 18...it was a typo...as you know Beaker that program does not import to text files I had to type these this morning in a rush...that explains the typo..
 

gsobier

Member
Dennis:

My little program complains many times about the numbers in your sets are NOT from the 30 I've posted... ...did your program grab numbers from all 49 by any chance and only use the primary 30 as a base?

Regards,
George

Here is the program to check this...

'PIPE fileFast DENNIS DATA *',
'| stem dennis.'

'PIPE fileBack' patterns,
'| drop first 2',
'| take first 1',
'| specs words 8-30 1',
'| split',
'| stem pattern.'

do d = 1 to dennis.0
output.d = ''
say '[' || dennis.d || ']'
space = ''
do w = 1 to words(dennis.d)
do p = 1 to pattern.0
if word(dennis.d, w) = pattern.p then
do
output.d = output.d || space || right(p, 2)
space = ' '
Leave p
end
end
end
if words(output.d) ¬= 6 then
error = 'Error'
else
error = ''
say '<' || output.d || '>' error
end


Dennis Bassboss said:
This one... :clown: :agree2:
 
Got this wheel...
Pick 6 : 30 numbers (3/5) 107 games
The 30 wheel numbers are
01 02 03 04 05 08 10 11 12
15 16 17 19 21 22 24 25 28
29 30 31 32 35 36 38 40 43
46 48 49
001. 04 08 15 29 31 35
002. 10 11 12 21 46 48
003. 17 25 32 36 43 49
004. 01 05 16 19 22 28
005. 03 24 30 38 40 49
006. 01 02 12 17 31 40
007. 02 03 05 08 21 32
008. 19 24 25 35 43 48
009. 02 04 16 29 30 46
010. 11 15 17 22 24 38
011. 08 10 24 28 30 36
012. 15 16 36 38 40 48
013. 03 22 25 31 32 46
014. 12 19 21 29 38 43
015. 01 05 11 29 48 49
016. 02 04 10 35 38 49
017. 08 28 35 40 43 46
018. 03 04 17 19 28 30
019. 05 12 15 22 30 36
020. 04 10 15 21 25 40
021. 03 11 16 31 43 48
022. 10 16 19 24 29 32
023. 01 30 31 32 35 38
024. 12 16 21 25 28 49
025. 01 03 21 22 29 36
026. 02 11 19 28 32 40
027. 02 05 08 17 25 38
028. 01 10 15 32 43 46
029. 04 08 11 12 36 46
030. 08 15 19 21 31 49
031. 02 22 24 31 36 48
032. 01 04 05 12 24 35
033. 05 10 17 29 30 31
034. 15 16 17 21 35 49
035. 08 17 28 29 32 48
036. 11 19 22 25 30 43
037. 12 22 29 35 40 49
038. 03 05 19 35 36 48
039. 01 03 10 25 38 46
040. 04 10 21 22 43 48
041. 02 03 12 15 29 43
042. 05 15 25 28 31 46
043. 17 21 24 36 46 49
044. 04 11 16 31 36 38
045. 03 08 10 16 35 40
046. 02 08 19 30 46 48
047. 01 05 16 24 32 40
048. 11 21 28 29 30 35
049. 01 12 28 32 38 48
050. 02 10 11 24 28 43
051. 01 08 25 30 32 49
052. 04 05 11 25 29 40
053. 22 32 35 38 46 49
054. 04 16 17 19 22 40
055. 01 02 25 31 35 36
056. 05 08 16 21 38 43
057. 03 04 28 31 32 48
058. 01 11 15 17 19 32
059. 08 10 12 22 30 49
060. 12 24 31 35 40 46
061. 01 05 17 40 43 46
062. 02 15 28 30 36 49
063. 12 16 17 25 32 48
064. 04 12 19 24 43 49
065. 03 08 21 24 30 48
066. 01 03 10 19 36 40
067. 10 22 28 31 35 38
068. 01 02 16 22 24 25
069. 03 11 15 16 17 46
070. 08 22 30 36 40 43
071. 24 25 29 31 46 48
072. 03 10 11 12 32 36
073. 02 05 10 21 22 49
074. 03 04 08 11 28 38
075. 05 19 28 29 43 46
076. 01 04 17 21 32 40
077. 08 10 15 17 35 48
078. 08 15 22 24 31 32
079. 02 03 16 17 25 35
080. 12 15 19 25 31 38
081. 01 02 16 30 31 46
082. 01 04 15 38 48 49
083. 05 10 21 28 31 49
084. 01 15 22 24 28 43
085. 02 04 05 08 11 30
086. 02 16 25 29 36 46
087. 11 16 21 35 36 43
088. 12 15 30 31 40 48
089. 02 22 28 29 31 40
090. 01 08 17 21 30 38
091. 02 19 21 22 30 35
092. 11 16 21 24 25 28
093. 03 04 05 10 12 28
094. 03 08 24 36 40 49
095. 05 08 11 19 29 32
096. 12 17 36 40 48 49
097. 05 17 30 32 35 43
098. 08 10 16 29 31 46
099. 12 21 22 35 38 46
100. 03 11 25 35 40 49
101. 04 24 30 36 38 46
102. 05 15 22 24 30 48
103. 01 04 08 12 22 28
104. 02 19 24 30 43 49
105. 02 04 15 24 25 40
106. 03 11 17 31 36 43
107. 03 05 12 35 36 38
Of course...the numbers were put in there in order from the lowest to the highest....
 
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gsobier said:
Dennis:

My little program complains many times about the numbers in your sets are NOT from the 30 I've posted... ...did your program grab numbers from all 49 by any chance and only use the primary 30 as a base?

Regards,
George

Here is the program to check this...

'PIPE fileFast DENNIS DATA *',
'| stem dennis.'

'PIPE fileBack' patterns,
'| drop first 2',
'| take first 1',
'| specs words 8-30 1',
'| split',
'| stem pattern.'

do d = 1 to dennis.0
output.d = ''
say '[' || dennis.d || ']'
space = ''
do w = 1 to words(dennis.d)
do p = 1 to pattern.0
if word(dennis.d, w) = pattern.p then
do
output.d = output.d || space || right(p, 2)
space = ' '
Leave p
end
end
end
if words(output.d) ¬= 6 then
error = 'Error'
else
error = ''
say '<' || output.d || '>' error
end
No the program will only build from the 30 you have posted....I don't find any that are not in these 30s Georges!
 
Here’s an optimized set 99 lines,from an already filtered system 446 047 lines(From a Full wheel)593,775
Using Georges 30 numbers and adding these specifications to them I got the next 99 optimized lines…
Even-Odd=(2-4)(3-3)(4-2)
Sum of numbers=(113-138)(139-164)(165-190)
Low High=(2-4)(3-3)(4-2)
Width of line=(21-26)(27-32)(33-39)
Consecutive=(1-1-1-1-1-1)(2-1-1-1-1)
Last draw=(none)(one)
Past draws=(one)(two)(Three)
Hot-Cold=(1-5)(2-4)(3-3)(4-2)

01-17-25-31-35-40
12-17-30-40-43-49
01-05-08-22-28-38
01-05-17-28-29-43
05-15-30-32-46-49
02-17-25-35-36-38
02-05-22-24-35-48
05-16-19-22-25-35
12-15-25-29-32-43
02-08-21-25-38-40
01-16-22-30-35-43
05-21-22-25-43-46
04-12-17-32-36-46
10-11-15-24-35-48
11-19-24-28-32-40
02-03-10-25-30-35
05-08-24-31-32-40
15-16-24-29-36-43
01-21-24-25-36-40
02-12-15-19-21-48
01-05-08-21-29-31
16-28-30-31-40-46
04-25-36-46-48-49
08-10-11-15-19-29
02-03-08-24-31-48
04-08-22-24-43-48
03-11-30-38-43-49
03-08-17-30-43-48
12-15-21-22-29-38
05-21-22-28-35-36
03-19-22-35-40-48
04-10-21-30-38-49
02-04-21-24-36-43
08-15-17-19-25-40
03-12-24-30-32-36
01-12-22-28-43-46
02-30-31-36-38-43
05-08-11-25-36-43
04-08-10-15-24-38
08-24-29-30-35-38
04-05-19-22-36-40
03-05-08-29-35-49
12-15-22-31-32-48
01-02-16-17-22-46
03-08-10-24-28-30
11-22-29-32-38-43
17-30-32-35-36-49
03-11-12-28-29-36
12-21-22-24-40-48
03-16-21-38-46-49
01-08-19-22-24-31
02-12-16-29-35-43
10-16-25-29-30-40
01-17-21-30-31-43
21-24-29-31-35-49
16-21-36-43-46-48
02-04-24-25-28-46
04-10-25-28-35-48
03-16-22-25-36-43
10-17-31-35-38-43
05-08-19-28-32-49
01-11-15-16-25-35
04-16-21-25-31-32
05-10-16-17-40-49
03-12-24-38-43-48
05-10-25-29-38-49
02-11-28-30-32-48
04-19-24-28-36-48
03-24-25-30-31-38
03-04-22-28-29-32
03-08-17-21-28-40
03-19-29-32-38-48
04-05-17-21-29-40
02-10-19-21-32-35
10-17-21-31-40-48
03-21-24-31-32-46
02-16-19-35-36-48
08-11-24-38-46-48
11-16-17-21-28-48
05-21-25-28-30-40
05-10-11-15-21-46
03-11-28-31-35-38
05-10-19-24-29-43
17-22-28-29-38-40
02-11-28-35-36-40
01-05-30-36-40-46
08-11-12-16-28-40
10-16-25-28-36-46
16-19-29-32-40-49
17-19-30-32-46-48
10-15-19-28-38-46
08-15-21-35-36-38
04-16-22-29-36-48
01-08-15-28-30-35
02-05-10-19-28-36
05-11-19-25-38-46
01-17-21-22-36-38
08-11-19-21-36-46
05-08-19-21-38-43
 

gsobier

Member
Dennis:

Sorry, disregard, my mistake... ...your sets are clean/prefect.

Regards,
George

Dennis Bassboss said:
No the program will only build from the 30 you have posted....I don't find any that are not in these 30s Georges!
 

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