Winning numbers how there are selected

Glueckspilz · Feb 20, 2005

This is the way we select the winning numbers:

Select "XXX' Numbers_set from Played_numbers where Province_of_played='XXX' and city_of_played='XXX" and time_of_played='XXX' and Method_of_Played='XXXX'

On each ticket we record the place, the time and the way the numbers have been selected.

We run this query against all played sets. We then feed the drawing machine with the results, the outcome will always be what we want.

For example if we want to have a single winner from Ontario, who played quick pick we run the following query:

Select unique numbers_set from played_numbers where province_of_played='Ontario' and method_of_played='quick pick';

It just takes less than 5 minutes to get the results. We prefer players wo play quick pick because our machine predict the numbers.
If we do not want a winner we run the following query:

Select unique numbers_set from all_numbers_set where numbers_set not in played_numbers;

Beaker · Feb 21, 2005

eh???

Pradeep · Feb 21, 2005

What about 649 balls?

Amazing.....Amazing..

The earth is round where your birth took place.
The Sun is round where Earth revolves around earth.

I think 649 numbers are decided by 1 to 49 balls but not by query.

Every thing is done via Balls.

Kids play with balls.

mon · Feb 21, 2005

BEFORE SCARING THIS PERSON OFF THE BOARD LET US ASK A FEW QUESTIONS LIKE,

Glueckspilz DO YOU OR HAVE YOU WORKED FOR THE LOTTO CORP? IF SO WHY DIVULDGE ALL THIS INFO?

Beaker · Feb 21, 2005

mon said:
BEFORE SCARING THIS PERSON OFF THE BOARD LET US ASK A FEW QUESTIONS LIKE,

Glueckspilz DO YOU OR HAVE YOU WORKED FOR THE LOTTO CORP? IF SO WHY DIVULDGE ALL THIS INFO?

You cannot be rational with the irrational :no:

None of what this person says applies to Canada 649 - similar sql may be used to identify winners but not to control the draw :no:

Now, if this person wants to talk about a computer drawn lotto then that discussion should move to another thread.

If people post, implying that our 649 lotto is in some way controllled, they had better offer evidence otherwise lurk.

veronica21 · Feb 21, 2005

LOTTO 649

mon said:
BEFORE SCARING THIS PERSON OFF THE BOARD LET US ASK A FEW QUESTIONS LIKE,

Glueckspilz DO YOU OR HAVE YOU WORKED FOR THE LOTTO CORP? IF SO WHY DIVULDGE ALL THIS INFO?

MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY, Glueckspilz WHO ARE YOU ? HOW DID YOU ACQUIRE THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THE LOTTERY ?

confused:

mon · Feb 21, 2005

Beaker said:
You cannot be rational with the irrational
None of what this person says applies to Canada 649 - similar sql may be used to identify winners but not to control the draw

Now, if this person wants to talk about a computer drawn lotto then that discussion should move to another thread.

If people post, implying that our 649 lotto is in some way controllled, they had better offer evidence otherwise lurk.

SO BEAKER YOU IN NO WAY THINK THAT OUR LOTTO IS MANIPULATED IN SOME WAY ?

Beaker · Feb 21, 2005

mon said:
SO BEAKER YOU IN NO WAY THINK THAT OUR LOTTO IS MANIPULATED IN SOME WAY ?

Manipulated?? No :no:

The kind of manipulation contemplated in that post is fraud.

But a few things bother me like the public can't see these draws and I believe they run tests with the machine for every draw. How many tests?? What happens if the draw fails for some reason?? How many ball sets do they have and do they use them for other lottos?? Does the draw happen in other locations??

Inquiring minds want to know :agree:

gsobier · Feb 21, 2005

...I copied and pasted this from the OLGC site FAQ...
"The draws are held in a studio in Toronto under tight security measures. Each draw is videotaped, witnessed and officially recorded by independent adjudicators."

...given the accusation of searching for a Quick Pick played, does this mean they video tape many draws until they get the desired results???... ...the witness just needs to confirm the results from the one they want... ...how is that for loop-holes big enough to drive a Mac Truck through

...

mon said:
BEFORE SCARING THIS PERSON OFF THE BOARD LET US ASK A FEW QUESTIONS LIKE,

Glueckspilz DO YOU OR HAVE YOU WORKED FOR THE LOTTO CORP? IF SO WHY DIVULDGE ALL THIS INFO?

Beaker · Feb 21, 2005

gsobier said:
...I copied and pasted this from the OLGC site FAQ...
"The draws are held in a studio in Toronto under tight security measures. Each draw is videotaped, witnessed and officially recorded by independent adjudicators."

...given the accusation of searching for a Quick Pick played, does this mean they video tape many draws until they get the desired results???... ...the witness just needs to confirm the results from the one they want... ...how is that for loop-holes big enough to drive a Mac Truck through...

They must have very sophisticated lottery machines to be able to pull specified balls out of a tumbling drum :dizzy:

How many draws do you think you can run through in 1/2 hour - 10 -15??

Crazy :flush:

The public should be able to see these draws. :agree:

mon · Feb 21, 2005

Beaker said:
Manipulated?? No The kind of manipulation contemplated in that post is fraud.

But a few things bother me like the public can't see these draws and I believe they run tests with the machine for every draw. How many tests?? What happens if the draw fails for some reason?? How many ball sets do they have and do they use them for other lottos?? Does the draw happen in other locations??

Inquiring minds want to know

I DONT KNOW BEAKER, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO THINK EVERYTHING IS ON THE UP AND UP, I STILL HAVE MY DOUBTS, LIKE HOW IS IT THAT SO MANY TKTS ARE SOLD AND THERE ARE NOT MORE WINNERS? WHY DO CERTAIN PLACES WIN MORE THAN OTHERS? AND FOR LOTTO CORP TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE DONT YOU THINK THEY HOLD BACK ON GIVING UP THAT JACKPOT SO THEY CAN MAKE MORE SALES?? I MAY BE VERY OFF BUT THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I DO HAVE... :wavey:

gsobier · Feb 21, 2005

...don't bother asking me :notme:

... ...asking OLGC is the thing to do :agree:

... ...the trouble asking them is a problem

... ...you get answers with the intent of brushing you off more than giving you the truth...

Beaker said:
They must have very sophisticated lottery machines to be able to pull specified balls out of a tumbling drum

How many draws do you think you can run through in 1/2 hour - 10 -15??

Crazy

The public should be able to see these draws.

Beaker · Feb 21, 2005

mon said:
I DONT KNOW BEAKER, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO THINK EVERYTHING IS ON THE UP AND UP, I STILL HAVE MY DOUBTS, LIKE HOW IS IT THAT SO MANY TKTS ARE SOLD AND THERE ARE NOT MORE WINNERS? WHY DO CERTAIN PLACES WIN MORE THAN OTHERS? AND FOR LOTTO CORP TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE DONT YOU THINK THEY HOLD BACK ON GIVING UP THAT JACKPOT SO THEY CAN MAKE MORE SALES?? I MAY BE VERY OFF BUT THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I DO HAVE...

Well, you never know - I would be more worried about a compurter generated draw :agree:

What is funny is that Super7 draw. :dizzy:

How people win that week after week is beyond me - fewer tickets than 6/49, 3x the combinations yet people win.

Go figure.

Beaker · Feb 21, 2005

gsobier said:
...don't bother asking me... ...asking OLGC is the thing to do... ...the trouble asking them is a problem... ...you get answers with the intent of brushing you off more than giving you the truth...

They should be completely transparent - yet they are elusive. For whatever reason, they don't what to devulge to much.

mon · Feb 21, 2005

Beaker said:
They should be completely transparent - yet they are elusive. For whatever reason, they don't what to devulge to much.

YOU SEE ??

ALOT OF QUESTIONS.... :dang:

mon · Feb 21, 2005

Beaker said:
Well, you never know - I would be more worried about a compurter generated draw

What is funny is that Super7 draw. How people win that week after week is beyond me - fewer tickets than 6/49, 3x the combinations yet people win.

Go figure.

another thing, since they changed 6/49 and added 2+b should there not be more winners? and why is it now harder to win the big jackpot??? its still 6 numbers on 49 that has not changed. and i understand that they are selling less tkts but so many bigger jackpots???

gsobier · Feb 21, 2005

...they have been coached to answer like they do...

Beaker said:
They should be completely transparent - yet they are elusive. For whatever reason, they don't what to devulge to much.

buddy5 · Feb 21, 2005

There is a part of me that believe's this could be true, a setup lottery. Alot of things point to it!
But another part of me hopes it is not true.

An example that I think is fishy, New Brunswick and Newfoundland have alot of lotto winners all the time but Nova Scotia and PEI don't have near as many.
The Atlantic Lotto Corp. just happens to reside in New Brunswick, how Ironic!

Also, you always see winners in Ont, Que, and BC, hardly ever Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan................

Anyone have any thoughts on this? :scatter:

mon · Feb 21, 2005

buddy5 said:
There is a part of me that believe's this could be true, a setup lottery. Alot of things point to it!
But another part of me hopes it is not true.

An example that I think is fishy, New Brunswick and Newfoundland have alot of lotto winners all the time but Nova Scotia and PEI don't have near as many.
The Atlantic Lotto Corp. just happens to reside in New Brunswick, how Ironic!

Also, you always see winners in Ont, Que, and BC, hardly ever Alberta, Manitoba, Saskatchewan................

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

EXACTLY!!! :agree:

AND WHEN IT IS WON IN THESE PROVINCES YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF THESE WINS ARE IN AND AROUND THE SAME AREAS.....

mon · Feb 21, 2005

gsobier said:
...they have been coached to answer like they do...

HAVE YOU EVER QUESTIONED WHY THEY ARE ELUSIVE?

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