Winning numbers how there are selected
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Dennis Bassboss
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ChrisJ said:Must be the boatman in disguise
From day one i've always thought thought, or atleast a part of me has thought that the lottery has been rigged...
Think about this, there are over 30 million people in Canada, lets say for arguments sake that about 3/4 of this population is old enough to buy tickets (22 500 000), granted not everyone plays but lets presume that 3/4 of those people actually play and buy one ticket which would mean that 16 875 000 buy ONE ticket. For arguments sake lets say that each ticket contains ONE line of picks meaning that every draw there should be one winner considering that and according to the lotto sites that chances or matching all 6 numbers on 6/49 is one in 13 million.
We all know that not everyone plays ONE pick, in most cases a ticket will contain 5 picks so the total number of number of all possible combinations floating around before the draw is 5 x 16 875 000 or 84 375 000 meaning that according to statistics that would mean that there should be multiple winners per draw or roughly 6.49 (total coincidence) winners per draw...
why isnt this the case? I think alot of it has to do with the lottery 'corporation'. It is that indeed...a corporation...a company designed to maximize their profits and to do this there is some control over this as is the case in most corporations. A set formula perhaps?
Considering that a large majority of people buy quick piks that are directly linked to the lotto corps system that is only open from 6am-12am my time indicates to me that there is some element of 'control'. To be honest i've always had a hunch that the lotto corp sets a winning combination of numbers into a particular retailers pik machine for each draw and the only element of luck is being at the right lotto retailer at the right time to have those winning piks printed...nothing to do with 'picking the right numbers' or perhaps it has something to do with picking a a combo that is the most unique in order to control the payouts.
The fact that the draws are never held live or shown on tv live doesnt help my 'conspiracy theory' either. What woudl prevent the lotto 'corporation' from holding a draw thats perfectly legal ... but a week in advance...then input the winning combo into their system where the instant pik machines draw from and if you happen to be at the right machine at the right time...u win...woudlnt that be clever.
Personally, i'd like to see them hold the draws live on tv and actually hold a copy of that days paper to the tv to prove its 'live'
Think about this, there are over 30 million people in Canada, lets say for arguments sake that about 3/4 of this population is old enough to buy tickets (22 500 000), granted not everyone plays but lets presume that 3/4 of those people actually play and buy one ticket which would mean that 16 875 000 buy ONE ticket. For arguments sake lets say that each ticket contains ONE line of picks meaning that every draw there should be one winner considering that and according to the lotto sites that chances or matching all 6 numbers on 6/49 is one in 13 million.
We all know that not everyone plays ONE pick, in most cases a ticket will contain 5 picks so the total number of number of all possible combinations floating around before the draw is 5 x 16 875 000 or 84 375 000 meaning that according to statistics that would mean that there should be multiple winners per draw or roughly 6.49 (total coincidence) winners per draw...
why isnt this the case? I think alot of it has to do with the lottery 'corporation'. It is that indeed...a corporation...a company designed to maximize their profits and to do this there is some control over this as is the case in most corporations. A set formula perhaps?
Considering that a large majority of people buy quick piks that are directly linked to the lotto corps system that is only open from 6am-12am my time indicates to me that there is some element of 'control'. To be honest i've always had a hunch that the lotto corp sets a winning combination of numbers into a particular retailers pik machine for each draw and the only element of luck is being at the right lotto retailer at the right time to have those winning piks printed...nothing to do with 'picking the right numbers' or perhaps it has something to do with picking a a combo that is the most unique in order to control the payouts.
The fact that the draws are never held live or shown on tv live doesnt help my 'conspiracy theory' either. What woudl prevent the lotto 'corporation' from holding a draw thats perfectly legal ... but a week in advance...then input the winning combo into their system where the instant pik machines draw from and if you happen to be at the right machine at the right time...u win...woudlnt that be clever.
Personally, i'd like to see them hold the draws live on tv and actually hold a copy of that days paper to the tv to prove its 'live'
In that case, what does
"The draws are held in a studio in Toronto under tight security measures. Each draw is videotaped, witnessed and officially recorded by independent adjudicators."
really mean then
?
"The draws are held in a studio in Toronto under tight security measures. Each draw is videotaped, witnessed and officially recorded by independent adjudicators."
really mean then
?blingy said:From day one i've always thought thought, or atleast a part of me has thought that the lottery has been rigged...
Think about this, there are over 30 million people in Canada, lets say for arguments sake that about 3/4 of this population is old enough to buy tickets (22 500 000), granted not everyone plays but lets presume that 3/4 of those people actually play and buy one ticket which would mean that 16 875 000 buy ONE ticket. For arguments sake lets say that each ticket contains ONE line of picks meaning that every draw there should be one winner considering that and according to the lotto sites that chances or matching all 6 numbers on 6/49 is one in 13 million.
We all know that not everyone plays ONE pick, in most cases a ticket will contain 5 picks so the total number of number of all possible combinations floating around before the draw is 5 x 16 875 000 or 84 375 000 meaning that according to statistics that would mean that there should be multiple winners per draw or roughly 6.49 (total coincidence) winners per draw...
why isnt this the case? I think alot of it has to do with the lottery 'corporation'. It is that indeed...a corporation...a company designed to maximize their profits and to do this there is some control over this as is the case in most corporations. A set formula perhaps?
Considering that a large majority of people buy quick piks that are directly linked to the lotto corps system that is only open from 6am-12am my time indicates to me that there is some element of 'control'. To be honest i've always had a hunch that the lotto corp sets a winning combination of numbers into a particular retailers pik machine for each draw and the only element of luck is being at the right lotto retailer at the right time to have those winning piks printed...nothing to do with 'picking the right numbers' or perhaps it has something to do with picking a a combo that is the most unique in order to control the payouts.
The fact that the draws are never held live or shown on tv live doesnt help my 'conspiracy theory' either. What woudl prevent the lotto 'corporation' from holding a draw thats perfectly legal ... but a week in advance...then input the winning combo into their system where the instant pik machines draw from and if you happen to be at the right machine at the right time...u win...woudlnt that be clever.
Personally, i'd like to see them hold the draws live on tv and actually hold a copy of that days paper to the tv to prove its 'live'
One comment about this...
In Portugal all draws are transmitted live on television. During the draw there are representatives of the Local Authority present that control the draw. The entity responsible for the game in Portugal is a welfare non profitable organization.
In Italy, the draw are semi-transmitted live... at least the ones I see. The extraction for the wheel of the region is done live and they present the numbers drawed for the other wheels! At all time, the police and the authorities are present!
The entity responsible for the games in Italy is a dedicated government own organization.
NOTE that I call the machines wheels, because that's what they are... hallow spheres that are manually operated.
So at least here I wouldn't say that the game is rigged!
In Portugal all draws are transmitted live on television. During the draw there are representatives of the Local Authority present that control the draw. The entity responsible for the game in Portugal is a welfare non profitable organization.
In Italy, the draw are semi-transmitted live... at least the ones I see. The extraction for the wheel of the region is done live and they present the numbers drawed for the other wheels! At all time, the police and the authorities are present!
The entity responsible for the games in Italy is a dedicated government own organization.
NOTE that I call the machines wheels, because that's what they are... hallow spheres that are manually operated.
So at least here I wouldn't say that the game is rigged!
thornc said:
However thornc,
the draw happens 1-2 hours later the last ticket being sold (20.00H).
As tickets are digitalized, it's easy and fast the House's computers to know which line(s) not being played. Even when all the 13,983,816 lines have been played it's easy and fast to know which one will give prizes the House wants to.
How can the House (SCML) make to fall out the pre-chosen 7 balls? from the machine?
Many technologically advanced ways we can imagine, passing through the eyes of the fairly representatives of the Local Authority without any cumplicity of them (the representatives).
The day when a totoloto draw happens till 4-5 MINUTES after the last played line (20h.05m), I'll give up the 'conspiracy theory' .
UK NATIONAL lottery draws happen 34-35 minutes after last played line. It's a Online lottery too, balls picked from a machine too.
G-tech in common too.
Few months ago I express my concern with OLGC. They invited me to come to the draw. I was very disappointed when I went there.
They were few people there (2 to 3 technicians for recording) plus 1 lady and 2 others guys.
I remembered having heard one the guy telling that there was no winner for the night.
I was speaking before the draw!!!!!
I went home very upset and could only notice that there was really no winner that night.
A friend of mine who got 5 numbers at one time asked OLGC why they are some people who seem to be winning all the time, he was told that these people are playing a lot of tickets.
They were few people there (2 to 3 technicians for recording) plus 1 lady and 2 others guys.
I remembered having heard one the guy telling that there was no winner for the night.
I was speaking before the draw!!!!!
I went home very upset and could only notice that there was really no winner that night.
A friend of mine who got 5 numbers at one time asked OLGC why they are some people who seem to be winning all the time, he was told that these people are playing a lot of tickets.
thornc said:
Have you noticed that since the OLGC has changed the ENCORE it is harder to get even 1 number, as well the numbers don't seem so random, they seem to have a sequence to them. Like for instance 9609428
More people who win the 649 come from Quebec. Fewer from ONT
and even then the one's who win don't often live in the city of Toronto itself. The live in the outskirts of the city, how is that when the city has 22 million people?
More people who win the 649 come from Quebec. Fewer from ONT
and even then the one's who win don't often live in the city of Toronto itself. The live in the outskirts of the city, how is that when the city has 22 million people?
I didn't for the longest time understand why the media never seem to question the integrity of the Olgc. It was when I started to ask questions the reason became apparent. The Olgc seems to be beyond reproach. They answer to no one, and are exempt from inquiries to the Privacy Commisioner and the Freedom of Information Act.
These salary figures explain the reason for the increase to $2.00 a ticket. Proline losses without hockey are hurting them, thus no Super 7 bonus draws. Notice all the gimmicks to sell tickets. I wonder who gets the advertising contracts from the Olgc and what are their political affiliations. If there's ever an investigation into this, it will make Adscam look like a a drop in the bucket. This has been going on since the 80s'. At least the draws were live on TV back then(or were they?), the prize breakdowns were available to all in the newspapers. Slowly they've eliminated the transparency of the lottery and pleaded costs associated with advertising were too high to publish winning prize breakdowns, all so the non inquiring public would not see how much money was actually taken in each draw. How the hell do we have a hospital crisis when this kind of money is coming in. If you live in Ontario or anywhere in Canada ask, harass, your MP and MPP, and write letters to the editor of your local paper and ask why these salaries are the way they are and where does the money really go.
OLGC Salary Disclosure 2003
Name Position Salary Taxable Benefits
Tomie, Adriana Director, Shared Services $139,341.01 $193.74
Longman, Robert Key Account Manager $106,478.65 $904.99
Albidone, Italo Manager Project Implementation $106,866.97 $129.94
Whitmell, Dereck Director, Solutions Delivery $121,515.23 $163.07
Gray, Richard Director, Fin Plan & Analysis $114,299.69 $157.85
McPhee, Terry General Manager Level 1 $112,231.68 $155.40
Wisternoff, John VP, Lottery Marketing $172,940.94 $5,890.23
Aronson, Donald Director, Corp Events&Comm Rel $113,417.51 $156.99
Cronin, James Sr Manager Public Relations $143,667.33 $186.54
Crawford, Mona Director, Sales & Service Initiatives $125,015.57 $172.52
Palmer, Brian Dir, Process & Implementation $119,870.35 $166.53
Bell-Murray, Lisa Director, Corp Acct & Rpt $139,673.82 $194.19
Markkula, Leo Director Treasury $131,972.49 $182.77
Bortolussi, Roy Director, Lottery Marketing $135,512.91 $185.32
Dalton, Earl VP Finance & Admin & Corp Cont. $201,298.65 $5,501.39
D'agostini, Douglas Director, Solutions Delivery $103,217.43 $143.00
Campbell, Alexander Director, Customer Service $132,919.69 $183.14
Fioravanti, Walter VP, Human Resources $205,157.42 $13,432.13
Ko, Ronald Director, Bingo Gaming $116,564.32 $156.93
Kasch, John Architect Information $108,619.85 $140.87
Barnett, Kenneth Director, Slots Racetrack Bus Dev $122,001.62 $170.04
Marinelli, Thomas Chief Technology Officer $167,899.72 $11,577.26
Myers, David VP, Sales & Service $169,364.03 $3,514.55
Brown, Greg Director, Retail Plan & Implem. $128,744.30 $154.64
Festival, Mario Architect- Security $112,838.73 $136.72
Tatasciore, John Network Architect $109,361.51 $138.68
Aube, Michel Sr Manager, Corporate Security $105,034.47 $144.59
Frair, Robert Project Director, ERM $136,860.14 $182.77
Ferrara, Francesco Senior Legal Counsel $125,321.96 $161.13
Prgomet, John Dir, HR Programs&Infrastructure $141,394.15 $179.86
Locke, Robert Dir, Facilities $124,750.09 $1,332.47
Hill, Douglas Relationship Manager $117,591.45 $163.71
Lapointe, Catherine Director, Operate & Maintain $115,200.19 $160.13
Rozeluk, Jerry Executive Director, Gaming $143,698.49 $2,199.92
Deans, Wayne Director, Internal Audit $128,748.83 $178.17
Cowie, Geoffrey Senior Legal Counsel $111,981.36 $147.21
Smith, Geoff General Manager Level 1 $130,069.68 $171.46
Yammine, Georges Executive Director, Gaming $145,250.45 $3,263.08
Glenat, Suellen Dir Employee Relations & Comm $106,910.13 $124.59
Babalis, Christos General Manager Level 3 $110,778.92 $146.70
Sepkowski, Karl Director, Marketing $117,189.65 $151.91
Kantovaara, Juha Architect Technology $107,208.78 $139.81
Pastore, Giacomo Mgr, Government Relations $101,737.71 $6,713.07
Berdowski, Alan Senior VP, Lottery $201,298.65 $13,801.80
Lockhart, Scott Design/Devel Oper Mgr Facil $100,990.37 $4,215.31
Nieder, Michael VP, Chief Information Officer $201,298.65 $12,363.16
Hill, Stephen Project Manager Level 2 $111,045.96 $2,858.95
Kozniuk, Bob Senior VP, Gaming $201,298.65 $13,239.75
Ramondt, Susan Exec Sec, Board of Directors $107,638.69 $140.98
Maddocks, David Director Development $141,751.73 $1941.00
Perugini, Tony Mgr Comm. Casinos&Corp Analysis $106,615.62 $148.26
Barbaro, Ron D. Chief Executive Officer $395,617.31 $7,846.00
Carvalho, Antonio V.P. Corp. Planning & e-Business $183,590.58 $1,247.92
Wood, Brian Chief Operating Officer $296,448.67 $9,166.19
Peters, Ingrid VP,GenCoun Crp Sec,Leg & Com $201,298.64 $14,432.61
Calderone, Bart Director of Strategic Projects $145,212.65 $193.68
Franco, Elizabeth Manager, Taxation $107,487.26 $147.11
Peltsch, Klaus Application Architect $105,009.35 $139.53
Choronzey, Karen Dir, HR Strategic Alliances & Learning $118,468.89 $161.33
Cooper, Jeff Director, Customer & Channel M $139,548.65 $366.22
Walker, Stuart General Manager Level 1 $120,123.18 $167.58
Seldon Dimock, Verity Dir, Performance & Learning $136,685.50 $152.22
Kyle, Brian Director, Business Dev $133,335.37 $178.66
Henderson, Mark Site General Manager Level 3 $121,439.52 $758.02
Uhren, Cameron General Manager Level 1 $134,562.28 $181.25
Laitinen, Christena Senior Mgr Labour Relations $101,144.96 $141.11
Gough, Lesley-Anne General Manager Level 2 $103,886.06 $138.67
Zelisney, Jackie Casino Manager $109,911.03 $152.76
Austin, David General Manager Level 2 $102,939.70 $131.19
Bailey, Rod Executive Director, Gaming $175,823.14 $1090.23
Di maurizio, Mory General Manager Level 2 $112,170.44 $147.59
Gall, Danny General Manager Level 3 $105,186.82 $121.50
Rennie, Karen General Manager Level 2 $101,975.54 $140.40
Thorburn, David General Manager Level 2 $111,698.32 $139.72
Scott, Charles Dir,Comp, Invest & Best Practices $103,563.67 $6111.14
Gibbons, Brenda Director, Procurement $136,640.40 $189.15
Birch, Michael Channel Development Manager $106,438.26 $142.53
Craig, Ron Dir, Develop & Implementation $137,548.55 $189.88
Burton, Timothy Director Taxation $136,135.94 $189.33
Brown, Gregory Director External e-Channel $127,170.37 $172.17
Flynn, Larry VP Gaming Marketing & Customer Dev $201,298.65 $3,131.64
Cameron, Chris Director, Lottery Marketing $132,093.64 $183.85
Gagesch, Karl VP Financial Planning & Analysis $172,615.71 $15,181.43
Dal din, Linda Relationship Manager $105,093.44 $144.33
Kurdyla, David V.P. Solutions Delivery $172,462.06 $10,085.64
Madden, Stephen Director Security $117,882.80 $179.79
These salary figures explain the reason for the increase to $2.00 a ticket. Proline losses without hockey are hurting them, thus no Super 7 bonus draws. Notice all the gimmicks to sell tickets. I wonder who gets the advertising contracts from the Olgc and what are their political affiliations. If there's ever an investigation into this, it will make Adscam look like a a drop in the bucket. This has been going on since the 80s'. At least the draws were live on TV back then(or were they?), the prize breakdowns were available to all in the newspapers. Slowly they've eliminated the transparency of the lottery and pleaded costs associated with advertising were too high to publish winning prize breakdowns, all so the non inquiring public would not see how much money was actually taken in each draw. How the hell do we have a hospital crisis when this kind of money is coming in. If you live in Ontario or anywhere in Canada ask, harass, your MP and MPP, and write letters to the editor of your local paper and ask why these salaries are the way they are and where does the money really go.
OLGC Salary Disclosure 2003
Name Position Salary Taxable Benefits
Tomie, Adriana Director, Shared Services $139,341.01 $193.74
Longman, Robert Key Account Manager $106,478.65 $904.99
Albidone, Italo Manager Project Implementation $106,866.97 $129.94
Whitmell, Dereck Director, Solutions Delivery $121,515.23 $163.07
Gray, Richard Director, Fin Plan & Analysis $114,299.69 $157.85
McPhee, Terry General Manager Level 1 $112,231.68 $155.40
Wisternoff, John VP, Lottery Marketing $172,940.94 $5,890.23
Aronson, Donald Director, Corp Events&Comm Rel $113,417.51 $156.99
Cronin, James Sr Manager Public Relations $143,667.33 $186.54
Crawford, Mona Director, Sales & Service Initiatives $125,015.57 $172.52
Palmer, Brian Dir, Process & Implementation $119,870.35 $166.53
Bell-Murray, Lisa Director, Corp Acct & Rpt $139,673.82 $194.19
Markkula, Leo Director Treasury $131,972.49 $182.77
Bortolussi, Roy Director, Lottery Marketing $135,512.91 $185.32
Dalton, Earl VP Finance & Admin & Corp Cont. $201,298.65 $5,501.39
D'agostini, Douglas Director, Solutions Delivery $103,217.43 $143.00
Campbell, Alexander Director, Customer Service $132,919.69 $183.14
Fioravanti, Walter VP, Human Resources $205,157.42 $13,432.13
Ko, Ronald Director, Bingo Gaming $116,564.32 $156.93
Kasch, John Architect Information $108,619.85 $140.87
Barnett, Kenneth Director, Slots Racetrack Bus Dev $122,001.62 $170.04
Marinelli, Thomas Chief Technology Officer $167,899.72 $11,577.26
Myers, David VP, Sales & Service $169,364.03 $3,514.55
Brown, Greg Director, Retail Plan & Implem. $128,744.30 $154.64
Festival, Mario Architect- Security $112,838.73 $136.72
Tatasciore, John Network Architect $109,361.51 $138.68
Aube, Michel Sr Manager, Corporate Security $105,034.47 $144.59
Frair, Robert Project Director, ERM $136,860.14 $182.77
Ferrara, Francesco Senior Legal Counsel $125,321.96 $161.13
Prgomet, John Dir, HR Programs&Infrastructure $141,394.15 $179.86
Locke, Robert Dir, Facilities $124,750.09 $1,332.47
Hill, Douglas Relationship Manager $117,591.45 $163.71
Lapointe, Catherine Director, Operate & Maintain $115,200.19 $160.13
Rozeluk, Jerry Executive Director, Gaming $143,698.49 $2,199.92
Deans, Wayne Director, Internal Audit $128,748.83 $178.17
Cowie, Geoffrey Senior Legal Counsel $111,981.36 $147.21
Smith, Geoff General Manager Level 1 $130,069.68 $171.46
Yammine, Georges Executive Director, Gaming $145,250.45 $3,263.08
Glenat, Suellen Dir Employee Relations & Comm $106,910.13 $124.59
Babalis, Christos General Manager Level 3 $110,778.92 $146.70
Sepkowski, Karl Director, Marketing $117,189.65 $151.91
Kantovaara, Juha Architect Technology $107,208.78 $139.81
Pastore, Giacomo Mgr, Government Relations $101,737.71 $6,713.07
Berdowski, Alan Senior VP, Lottery $201,298.65 $13,801.80
Lockhart, Scott Design/Devel Oper Mgr Facil $100,990.37 $4,215.31
Nieder, Michael VP, Chief Information Officer $201,298.65 $12,363.16
Hill, Stephen Project Manager Level 2 $111,045.96 $2,858.95
Kozniuk, Bob Senior VP, Gaming $201,298.65 $13,239.75
Ramondt, Susan Exec Sec, Board of Directors $107,638.69 $140.98
Maddocks, David Director Development $141,751.73 $1941.00
Perugini, Tony Mgr Comm. Casinos&Corp Analysis $106,615.62 $148.26
Barbaro, Ron D. Chief Executive Officer $395,617.31 $7,846.00
Carvalho, Antonio V.P. Corp. Planning & e-Business $183,590.58 $1,247.92
Wood, Brian Chief Operating Officer $296,448.67 $9,166.19
Peters, Ingrid VP,GenCoun Crp Sec,Leg & Com $201,298.64 $14,432.61
Calderone, Bart Director of Strategic Projects $145,212.65 $193.68
Franco, Elizabeth Manager, Taxation $107,487.26 $147.11
Peltsch, Klaus Application Architect $105,009.35 $139.53
Choronzey, Karen Dir, HR Strategic Alliances & Learning $118,468.89 $161.33
Cooper, Jeff Director, Customer & Channel M $139,548.65 $366.22
Walker, Stuart General Manager Level 1 $120,123.18 $167.58
Seldon Dimock, Verity Dir, Performance & Learning $136,685.50 $152.22
Kyle, Brian Director, Business Dev $133,335.37 $178.66
Henderson, Mark Site General Manager Level 3 $121,439.52 $758.02
Uhren, Cameron General Manager Level 1 $134,562.28 $181.25
Laitinen, Christena Senior Mgr Labour Relations $101,144.96 $141.11
Gough, Lesley-Anne General Manager Level 2 $103,886.06 $138.67
Zelisney, Jackie Casino Manager $109,911.03 $152.76
Austin, David General Manager Level 2 $102,939.70 $131.19
Bailey, Rod Executive Director, Gaming $175,823.14 $1090.23
Di maurizio, Mory General Manager Level 2 $112,170.44 $147.59
Gall, Danny General Manager Level 3 $105,186.82 $121.50
Rennie, Karen General Manager Level 2 $101,975.54 $140.40
Thorburn, David General Manager Level 2 $111,698.32 $139.72
Scott, Charles Dir,Comp, Invest & Best Practices $103,563.67 $6111.14
Gibbons, Brenda Director, Procurement $136,640.40 $189.15
Birch, Michael Channel Development Manager $106,438.26 $142.53
Craig, Ron Dir, Develop & Implementation $137,548.55 $189.88
Burton, Timothy Director Taxation $136,135.94 $189.33
Brown, Gregory Director External e-Channel $127,170.37 $172.17
Flynn, Larry VP Gaming Marketing & Customer Dev $201,298.65 $3,131.64
Cameron, Chris Director, Lottery Marketing $132,093.64 $183.85
Gagesch, Karl VP Financial Planning & Analysis $172,615.71 $15,181.43
Dal din, Linda Relationship Manager $105,093.44 $144.33
Kurdyla, David V.P. Solutions Delivery $172,462.06 $10,085.64
Madden, Stephen Director Security $117,882.80 $179.79
Dennis Bassboss
Member
You are right about one thing...most people living inside big cities are always rushing...Therefore they go for quickpicks...Getlucky said:Have you noticed that since the OLGC has changed the ENCORE it is harder to get even 1 number, as well the numbers don't seem so random, they seem to have a sequence to them. Like for instance 9609428
More people who win the 649 come from Quebec. Fewer from ONT
and even then the one's who win don't often live in the city of Toronto itself. The live in the outskirts of the city, how is that when the city has 22 million people?
In the outskirts where life goes slower....The rest is academic... On another note...Lotto-Québec is the worst regarding services to players...
Dennis Bassboss
Member
If the balls were not drawned ramdomly...I would buy quick picks...
I'm counting on the ramdomness of the draws..It is my biggest asset...
I'm counting on the ramdomness of the draws..It is my biggest asset...
lotto_insider
Member
Dennis Bassboss said:If the balls were not drawned ramdomly...I would buy quick picks...
I'm counting on the ramdomness of the draws..It is my biggest asset...
No single living or dead human being has ever been able to demonstrate that 'real random’ exists. Whatever we call random can be proven not to be so with mathematical means. In other words they cannot produce a perfectly random systems (mechanical or logical). The only way they can try produce it and guaranty that they have a ‘fair game’ where not some people just use mathematical skills to win is to monitor and control the game.
In Toronto for example I have noticed that some players of Pro Line are sometimes not allowed to enter games. These players are usually very skilled and know the teams. They try to play the same combinations many times but they are blocked by the system that just refuses to accept their entries in they are playing within a specific geographical area. It's to say that somehow they have the means to control, place, time and combination.
Anyone can confirm what I am talking about.
Let's make not doubt of it, this game is being controlled.
I think all of canada should just stop playing any form of lotto until the OLGC can come clean and prove it to the public that they are on the up and up! There is so much technology out there that there is know excuse why they can't show everyone how it is really done, and they sure do have all our money to do just that, have they ever heard of the media, television, computers.
Please, the OLGC is more corupted than the mafia, but then they are part of our government, you draw the conclusion.
Please, the OLGC is more corupted than the mafia, but then they are part of our government, you draw the conclusion.
OLGC= Organized,Liberals,Gouging, Canadians.buddy5 said:I think all of canada should just stop playing any form of lotto until the OLGC can come clean and prove it to the public that they are on the up and up! There is so much technology out there that there is know excuse why they can't show everyone how it is really done, and they sure do have all our money to do just that, have they ever heard of the media, television, computers.
Please, the OLGC is more corupted than the mafia, but then they are part of our government, you draw the conclusion.
One toonie at a time.
OLGC= Organized,Liberals,Gouging, Canadians.One toonie at a time.
:finger:well said all, if you go to powerball.com or megamillions websites they freely show videoclips of all the draws, dating back to a few months...
I don't understand why Canadian lotto sites can't simply post a small low res video clip of a drawing, i can't imagine that they couldn't afford it.
I also find it suspicious that when 6/49 first came out the jackpots were $500,000 and the draws were shown 'live'. When the jackpots started to climb they drawings were mysteriously taken off the air.
something to think about...
I don't understand why Canadian lotto sites can't simply post a small low res video clip of a drawing, i can't imagine that they couldn't afford it.
I also find it suspicious that when 6/49 first came out the jackpots were $500,000 and the draws were shown 'live'. When the jackpots started to climb they drawings were mysteriously taken off the air.
something to think about...