Winning idea for pairs similar to sangoma (need some programming skills though)

[black prince]

Hi All

I'm using skip patterns, BPMedian filter, and jpairs1c to get closer to jackpot.
Skip patterns reduces my numbers from 30 to 18. BPMedian eliminates
a few more numbers. From 18 to 15. I take all the pairs from their results
and use jpairs1c to pick pairs below 50% to play. The hot pairs are my KEY
numbers and winnalotto purge creates the rest. Right now winnalotto creates
several hundred combinations to play, but this is a huge improvement from
thousands I use to get before.

-BP

 

[struxo]

Help

Hi guys,
can anybody help me with step-by-step to convert my text file in csv file.Here's how my text file looks like:
5,7,15,18,25,28,31
4,7,12,24,28,30,35
1,3,8,12,14,26,35
5,10,12,18,19,33,34

please help.

struxo

 

[HalfBee]

What do you mean? It looks like it's already csv. Just change the ending from txt to csv when you save it, or rename it.

 

[struxo]

to HalfBee

Thanx man, it's working fine now

struxo

 

[jokerh1977]

Positional Pairs

Alrighty now, let's look at something that can help once we have a chosen pair. (This can also help anybody using pools of numbers or a favorite number.) I will be using it to help bring my total selection of tickets down while using my favored pair.

I'm sure most of us are familiar with positional analysis. For instance in a 5/39 game there are 66,045 combos with the number "2" in the first slot or position. There are only 7,770 combos with "2" in the second position. Thus, if 2 is your favorite number then it will probably fall into the first position. When looking at a pair (let's say 3-37) we can see that total there are 7770 combos. If we place 3 and 37 in their most "popular" positions then we only have 5456 combos. That is almost a third less combos! Now, there are TWO ways we can attempt to use positions to help us. The first is using the favored positions as described above. The second is the method I've been experimenting with.

As a preamble here let me add that I am using excel, Winnalotto, and a program by Ion Saliu called "Frequency Rank". This process does require some time to work out. Hopefully, it can be automated by someone with more skills than I. (HalfBee, maybe this could be a great addition to JPair?) Let me say again that this isn't just for a favorite pair, but can be used to help selection for any method and any lottery. For examples I'll just use a 5/39 lottery.

Okay let's examine a position 1 on a 5/39 lotto. This is what is looks like:

1-73815-12.82%
2-66045-11.47%
3-58905-10.23%
4-52360-9.09%
5-46376-8.05%
6-40920-7.11%
7-35960-6.25%
8-31465-5.46%
9-27405-4.76%
10-23751-4.13%
11-20475-3.56%
12-17550-3.05%
13-14950-2.60%
14-12650-2.20%
15-10626-1.85%
16-8855-1.54%
17-7315-1.27%
18-5985-1.04%
19-4845-0.84%
20-3876-0.67%
21-3060-0.53%
22-2380-0.41%
23-1820-0.32%
24-1365-0.24%
25-1001-0.17%
26-715-0.12%
27-495-0.09%
28-330-0.06%
29-210-0.04%
30-126-0.02%
31-70-0.01%
32-35-0.01%
33-15- >0.01%
34-5- >0.01%
35-1- >0.01%
36-0-0%
37-0-0%
38-0-0%
39-0-0%

The first numbers are the lotto number, then the total amount of combos that have the digit in position 1, then the percentage out of all possible combos. So let's look at number "2". In theory, 2 is in the first position in 11.47% of the drawings. (I'm not saying that it is the true case, but in theory. K?) My method is to analyze position by position the number of skips for each number and to come up with the probability. Essentially something like: ((1- total percentage) ^ current skips) Let's say that the following scenario were true...
1 at 2 skips
2 at 15 skips
3 at 4 skips

The probabilities would be such:
1- 76%
2- 16%
3- 64%

My bet would be on the 2 or 3 falling in the first position instead of 1.
Now I do this for every number in every position and then in Excel, list them in a table. I sort from low to high. You can visualize which numbers are then "overdue" in which position. As an example, I picked the "most due" 5 numbers in every position. FOUR of the five showed up in that particular drawing. This is a very interesting area to experiment in. I would like to establish my favorite pair I'm betting on in their most "due" positions to get the minimal amount of tickets. I'm SURE this process can be speeded up by our pros here on the forum. I think it would behoove you to examine the natural favored positions and then examine the "due" positions. Perhaps use a combination of the two. You will be amazed when you see how these methods slaughter the odds!

EDIT:
Just in case I wasn't very clear, let me add the probabilities I mention above are not probabilities that are supposed to happen. 1 does not have a 76% of occurring in the next draw. We WANT the LOWER percents in this particular analysis.

 

[HalfBee]

Essentially something like: ((1- total percentage) ^ current skips) Let's say that the following scenario were true...
1 at 2 skips
2 at 15 skips
3 at 4 skips

The probabilities would be such:
1- 76%
2- 16%
3- 64%

Can you show how you got the results you did? I couldn't quite follow your formula. How is 1 at 76% with 2 skip, 2 at 16% with 15 skips...

 

[HalfBee]

Joker,
Do you have charts for the various games (or something to make them)?
Hate to make over a half million wheel combos just to count how often a number shows up in a certain position. If I remember correctly I think MS limits listboxes to about 36000 or so items. I thought I had a chart in one of my books but can't seem to find it. Or perhaps you know of an online source.

 

[jokerh1977]

Right, let me explain the formula ((1- total percentage) ^ current skips)...

1. 1 - .1287 ( <--- the % of all possible 1s in 1 position) = .8713

2. .8713 x .8713 ( <--- because there are two skips) = .75916369 or 76%

Thus we can expect the number 1 in position 1 to have a skip factor of 2 76% of the time. If we figure the same formula for the number 2 in position 1 with a skip factor of 15 we get 16%. So only 16% of the time we should encounter the number 2 skipping that many times in position 1. Far less often you see. Hence, 2 is due much more than 1 is.

So if you figure out every lotto number in every position you can get a list of most due numbers in each position.

Does this make better sense?

 

[jokerh1977]

Joker,
Do you have charts for the various games (or something to make them)?
Hate to make over a half million wheel combos just to count how often a number shows up in a certain position. If I remember correctly I think MS limits listboxes to about 36000 or so items. I thought I had a chart in one of my books but can't seem to find it. Or perhaps you know of an online source.

Ha ha, I was working on my reply when you posted this. Lol.

Yeah, I can give you the appropriate percentages for every position. I'll work on it tonight. I'll do 6/49, 5/39, and 4/24. Is that cool?

HalfBee, Do you have a website or any way I could contact you?

 

[HalfBee]

Yeah, you've been downloading these from my website.

Send to HalfBee at the website domain (amafrog.com)

That's just to confuse any e(vil)mail address suckers from spamming me too much...

 

[HalfBee]

Spent most of today doing spreadsheet pasting of bpMedD info and looking at hit patterns based on current skip and Simple% columns. Was lucky in that numbers turned around and all 5 were in filter (only pulled 4 of them for use). Was trying to pick a pair, but didn't use the pair program until after I posted here. The ones I picked were WAY down the probability list and of course didn't show. The ones that did gave me a good range to check for tomorrow and I'll probably play a set since it rolled over (been 5 or 6 days now that it hasn't rolled over). I'm seeing them group up on the Simple% in pairs or 1 skip 1 patterns, and Median is also showing promise as an indicator.

I created these 2 key wheels and know they'll work if I can get a golden pair (or even 1 would help).

 

[jokerh1977]

Hey HalfBee,

Check your email.

Did my second explanation make a bit more sense?

I'm crossing my fingers for your golden pair!

 

[HalfBee]

Yep, the raised to the power thing seems a bit extreme but if it works it works... Got your files, will see what I can do with them.

 

[struxo]

hi all

Here is site with percentages for every position for every lottery game:

http://www.johnph77.com/math/lf.html

i hope this help.

struxo

 

[black prince]

Hi HalfBee

Originally Posted by HalfBee
Spent most of today doing spreadsheet pasting of bpMedD info and looking at hit patterns based on current skip and Simple% columns. Was lucky in that numbers turned around and all 5 were in filter (only pulled 4 of them for use). Was trying to pick a pair, but didn't use the pair program until after I posted here. The ones I picked were WAY down the probability list and of course didn't show. The ones that did gave me a good range to check for tomorrow and I'll probably play a set since it rolled over (been 5 or 6 days now that it hasn't rolled over). I'm seeing them group up on the Simple% in pairs or 1 skip 1 patterns, and Median is also showing promise as an indicator.

I created these 2 key wheels and know they'll work if I can get a golden pair (or even 1 would help).

Hi HalfBee, I am curious about how your using "Simple%". I haven't use
this column filter yet and wounder if you could give me an example of
how you use it.

Thanks

-BP

 

[jokerh1977]

Yep, the raised to the power thing seems a bit extreme but if it works it works...

I didnt come up with that. That is just classic probability. In an infinite number of tests, a 0.50 event would happen 3 times in a row approx 0.125 of the time.

 

[HalfBee]

Hi HalfBee, I am curious about how your using "Simple%". I haven't use
this column filter yet and wounder if you could give me an example of
how you use it.
-BP

Well when I run bpMedianD filter I always sort it on Simple%. About 80% of the numbers are above 50% and 4 to 6 end up under 50%. This is just the way I sort them (it has no actual meaning)... but...

When I went back through my couple of months of filter listings and pulled out the numbers that hit and put them all in one spreadsheet, I sort them on Skip 1 and Simple%. Then when I run the current draw, I look at the current skip level then see how many at that level had the same Simple% in my master hit list. There are some that have hit many times and I mark it as one to include in my selection process. It's a work in progress but shows promise.

Like I said in earlier post, sorting by Simple% seems to bring up numbers that hit which are next to each other in the sorted listing or are hit skip hit in the list. The above/below 50% usually has 1 in each so rather than taking just the highs or lows I try to take 1 low for every 2 high. I could get a good pair about twice a month if I just took just the lows and used the two just above the lowest (dunno why but it does keep showing up). The high end isn't quite as regular and is mostly the hit skip hit pattern.

This is new method in testing phase, but am going to actually play a set today as I think I'm on to something...

 

[black prince]

HalfBee

Originally Posted by HalfBee
Well when I run bpMedianD filter I always sort it on Simple%. About 80% of the numbers are above 50% and 4 to 6 end up under 50%. This is just the way I sort them (it has no actual meaning)... but...

When I went back through my couple of months of filter listings and pulled out the numbers that hit and put them all in one spreadsheet, I sort them on Skip 1 and Simple%. Then when I run the current draw, I look at the current skip level then see how many at that level had the same Simple% in my master hit list. There are some that have hit many times and I mark it as one to include in my selection process. It's a work in progress but shows promise.

I tried "Simple%" vs "Detailed" filters and "Detailed" seemed to do better. I used
a range of 15 to 18 for "Detailed" and this typically removes 5 to 6
numbers that were outside the range. I also noticed that occasionally all
numbers came from either 15's or 16's. When they came from 15's it's usually
5 or 6 numbers or about two tickets. I am playing 15's daily now assuming
that random luck will eventually hit 4 or 5 numbers from 15's. I missed
playing on Monday and you guessed it, 4 of the 5 numbers came from
15's worth $300, if I had played. The 5th number was a repeat from the
prior winning drawing.

-BP

 

[HalfBee]

Yep, it comes in waves... Will have to look at Detailed and backtest. That's one of the problem with bpMedianD is having to deal with repeaters. I just add in the last draw numbers and try to find the 1 or 2 that I think will repeat. My plays yesterday went way off when 1-2-3 came up since I filter out triples (always) as low probability. The fact all numbers were under 20 also didn't help my balanced approach and two were repeaters 1-11 from the previous draw.

 

[black prince]

HalfBee

Originally Posted by HalfBee
Yep, it comes in waves... Will have to look at Detailed and backtest. That's one of the problem with bpMedianD is having to deal with repeaters. I just add in the last draw numbers and try to find the 1 or 2 that I think will repeat. My plays yesterday went way off when 1-2-3 came up since I filter out triples (always) as low probability. The fact all numbers were under 20 also didn't help my balanced approach and two were repeaters 1-11 from the previous draw.

I used "Simple%" to reduce prior winning numbers. On monday's drawing 18
was the only prior number was greater than 50%. If I had known how to
use "Simple%" filter it would have given me 5 out of 5. I'm now looking
closely at "Simple%" in selecting prior winning numbers. Backtesting is in
order. BTW, 18 had a "Detailed" value of 21, so I had to ignor this filter
for prior numbers.

-BP