Winnalotto-Sangoma 2

[Patrick123]

Goeie More Springbok,

The current filter set I'm raving about or evaluating is:

skip(0) = 3
and
skip(1) <= 3
and
skip(2) <= 3
and
skip(3) <= 3
and
skip(4) <= 3
and
skip(5) <= 3
and
skip(6) <= 3
and
skip(7) <= 3
and
skip(8) <= 3
and
skip(9) <= 3
and
skip(10) <= 3
and
skip(11) <= 3
and
skip(12) <= 3
and
skip(13) <= 3
and
skip(14) <= 3
and
skip(15) <= 3
and
skip(16) <= 3
and
skip(17) <= 3
and
skip(18) <= 3
and
skip(19) <= 3
and
skip(20) <= 3
and
skip(21) <= 3
and
skip(22) <= 3
and
skip(23) <= 3
and
skip(24) <= 3
and
skip(25) <= 3
and
skip(26) <= 3

I save this as ExceedSkip3-3-26 for obvious reasons

I then change the 3 of

skip(0) = 3

with 4 save as ExceedSkip3-4-26
and repeat this up to 8.

I then load ExceedSkip3-8-26 and select Trips on the Drawing Analysis screen. I work my way down the the range of filters until I get a few rows returned.

I browse through the sniper1 information e.g.
Trip 2:15:41 of the SA Lotto

Sorted
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 6 6 6 6 > 7 7 9

Percentage: 2/2 - 100%

Un-Sorted - No Trend
6 1 0 3 2 2 0 1 2 1 0 2 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 2 0 2 1 1 0 1 0 3 0 0 1 2 1 0 1 3 0 1 3 1 0 1 1 0 3 0 1 2 1 0 0 1 0 1 2 0 2 6 1 6 5 1 1 0 0 1 2 0 0 1 0 1 2 3 1 4 1 0 4 0 1 1 1 0 2 0 4 2 1 0 0 3 1 2 0 0 5 1 3 3 0 0 3 0 1 7 3 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 3 2 2 7 0 2 2 0 3 1 0 1 1 3 0 0 0 1 1 2 1 1 0 2 0 0 2 0 1 4 0 1 1 0 4 2 0 1 4 3 0 9 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 3 0 3 0 1 0 3 0 0 3 0 3 2 4 1 1 0 0 3 1 1 0 3 0 6 4 2 1 1 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 2 0

This should be at cracking point

Regards
Patrick

 

[taaroa]

Sabuwona Patrick and Springbok,

Thanks Patrick, the text file worked great for purging. I'm purging lines for Euromillions to see what happen.

Springbok,
I know we must play till we win in the 4 draw interval, the sooner, the best.
I must continue backtesting to decide what I'll do.

taaroa

 

[Patrick123]

Hi Everyone,

A quick correction to the above filter, your ExceedSkip3-8-26 filter should read:

skip(0) >= 8

This way you ensure you get all the rogue rows

Good luck there taaroa, glad that it's working for you.

Regards
Patrick

 

[Springbok]

G'day Patrick

Just checked my e-pos. Will check out the filters. Wow baaie werk to do to check out these things The mind spins around faster and faster. I started testing with line skips on what I recommended to Taaroa. The results look impressive so far but I have only done this a couple of times. I am using a 2 line skip.

 

[Patrick123]

Dag se Springbok,

For the sake of repeating myself once more, remember when you load every x line, you must skip the first (x-1) lines so that it stays synchronised otherwise you'd actually be working on the incorrect draw.

I was under the impression that the New Zealand 6/40 Saturday draw would be easier, but for some reason the filters are acting chaotic. I'm assuming this is either because of test runs, or their 6/45 Big Wednesday draw affects it. So far loading every 5th draw somehow produces the most reliable prediction.

Regards
Patrick

 

[taaroa]

Dag se Springbok,

For the sake of repeating myself once more, remember when you load every x line, you must skip the first (x-1) lines so that it stays synchronised otherwise you'd actually be working on the incorrect draw.

Regards
Patrick

Patrick,

In fact, what you are saying is that when you want to analyse the last 20 draws, you must load next 19 (20-1) lines. I did that and get effectively 20 lines in the Load results window. Hope I'm right.

So, all analysis I made were wrong, refering to the numbers of draws. But, as an example, when Springbok said that using 26 draws for SA Lotto gave good results, does he was using in fact 27 draws? Not sure. Springbok, can you confirm that? Thank you.

Reference about number of draws is important when we exchange informations. Thank you Patrick to recall us this important fact.


Taaroa

 

[Patrick123]

Patrick,

In fact, what you are saying is that when you want to analyse the last 20 draws, you must load next 19 (20-1) lines. I did that and get effectively 20 lines in the Load results window. Hope I'm right.

So, all analysis I made were wrong, refering to the numbers of draws. But, as an example, when Springbok said that using 26 draws for SA Lotto gave good results, does he was using in fact 27 draws? Not sure. Springbok, can you confirm that? Thank you.

Reference about number of draws is important when we exchange informations. Thank you Patrick to recall us this important fact.


Taaroa

Hi Taaroa,

I usually always load 500 lines for my analysis. I'm referring to when you want to load every second or every third row. This is the 'Load Every x Row (Level)' option.

When you use this option, if for example you load every second row, you would set:
'Skip First x Lines' to 1
'Load Next y Lines' to 500 ( or whatever number of lines you want)
'Load Every z Row (Level) to 2


As you can see, when you load every row you have
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Every second row would be
ABABABABABABABABABABABABABABAB

of which if you did not skip the first row you would be loading the A series but the draw would be in the B's

Similarly every third row,
ABCABCABCABCABCABCABCABCABC

here we want the C's synchronised so we would skip the first 2 rows.

I hope this makes it a bit clearer.

With reference to the 26 draws that Springbok mentioned, it was not draws but the counts of Skips, in other words the last 26 skips for the ball/pair/trip must have stayed below or equal to 3.

Regards
Patrick

 

[black prince]

Patrick123

Originally Posted by Patrick123
Hi Everyone,

A quick correction to the above filter, your ExceedSkip3-8-26 filter should read:
Quote:
skip(0) >= 8

This way you ensure you get all the rogue rows

I created ExceedSkip3-3-26 thru ExceedSkip3-8-26 and backtested 20 draws.
The trips for each draw was created in the Purge Screen and saved. Then
with some minor editing of the trips file, I cut and pasted the results into
Alpha3.flt. I ran winnalotto and loaded the ExceedSkip3-X-26 filters and
loaded the Alpha3.flt. I used Trips button and to my suprise the filters
reduced the trips down to 1 or 2 winning trips. I usually get excited when
something works once or twice, but after realizing lottery is random, I've
learned to stay calm until a method proves itself over a longer period.
In short, this is really looking good. I going out to jog and work out
how to reduce the numbers used to create the trips.

-BP

 

[black prince]

Patrick123

Hi Patrick,

These are my results from backtesting ExceedSkip3-3-26 thru
ExceedSkip3-8-26 filters. Hits are highlited with red:

02,09,15,19,22
06,16,24,27,30
04,14,15,19,29
05,13,23,26,28
04,06,15,21,26
06,16,22,26,30
01,15,22,23,27
04,05,06,26,29
04,06,09,14,20
08,11,12,21,24
05,09,16,19,26
12,13,22,27,30
07,11,17,24,28

.
.
.
.
to 50 past draws

I noticed that when a Trip was found it was mostly
from skip(0) = 4. The column 'Rebal Perc' > 0 helped
reduce the number of Trips not needed. Some Trips seemed
to return in the same skip(0) as thought they didn't increase
their skip count from the last drawing.

-BP

 

[Springbok]

Hi Taaroa

I did not make myself clear. The filter itself would report on the last say 30 draws but I was using a history of 500 draws as default. So filter 20 pulls out the pairs trips which had not exceeded the watermark of 20, filter 25 pulls out pairs trips that have not exceeded 25 draws and so on.

 

[taaroa]

I did not make myself clear. The filter itself would report on the last say 30 draws but I was using a history of 500 draws as default. So filter 20 pulls out the pairs trips which had not exceeded the watermark of 20, filter 25 pulls out pairs trips that have not exceeded 25 draws and so on.

Sabuwona Springbok,

Thank you. I understand now. You were refering to your filter which you set 30 skips(cycles) = or > or < 6 or any other value.
I had misunderstood your post but had however good results with using 30 draws and the Hot numbers filter. This was with the 649. Colums used were Mode,MaxVal,Median Due and best %sniper for Balls.

Backtesting show the now famous wave motion results.

Taaroa

 

[Springbok]

Bonsoir Monsieur Taaroa

Your Zulu is improving but it is sawubona You got it. The filter I was testing takes the current skip of zero and extracts number pairs,trips which have not exceeded 4 draws over a period of 20,25 or 30 previous draws

 

[taaroa]

Your Zulu is improving but it is sawubona You got it. The filter I was testing takes the current skip of zero and extracts number pairs,trips which have not exceeded 4 draws over a period of 20,25 or 30 previous draws

Sawubona Springbok,

Yes, it is Sawubona. Am I turning dislexic?

taaroa

 

[Springbok]

Middag Patrick

I am experimenting with a new filter but I am having difficulties implementing it. I am using arguements from the Boolean truth table such as XOR or OR. This is what I am trying to do:-

skip(0) = 2
and
skip(1) = 2 OR 3
and
skip(2) = 2 OR 3
and
skip(3) = 2 OR 3

In other words The current skip is 2 and the next three skip cycles must be 2 or 3, nothing else.The OR could be substituted for XOR I assume. I will carry on and try and figure it out before you do

 

[Patrick123]

skip(0) = 2
and
skip(1) = 2 OR 3
and
skip(2) = 2 OR 3
and
skip(3) = 2 OR 3

Evening Springbok,

The or seems to give erratic results at times as it has the same priority as the and (I must set priorities and allow parentheses in formulas), the best is:

skip(0) = 2
and
skip(1) >= 2
and
skip(1) <= 3
and
skip(2) >= 2
and
skip(2) <= 3
and
skip(3) >= 2
and
skip(3) <= 3

Regards
Patrick

 

[Springbok]

Evening Patrick

Thanks, I actually stumbled on that layout an hour or so ago. I kissed goodbye to OR and XOR when i realised the usual operators could do the same thing. I also noticed the preferences with OR and XOR. You should run some tests on that layout. You may have to alter the skip history to two or 3 skip cycles.

 

[Springbok]

Evenin' Patrick

Check out the following filter. Look at the logic. We are using trips. It seeks out trips which are in a pretty steady state and we hope they continue that way for the next 2 draws. Run the filter for your game and look at the stream of trips. The winning trips are in there. You got to find them. Collect a whole bunch of them but exclude the last draw before you load.Make sure they have different numbers. All those that did not hit in the last excluded draw qualify for the next draw.If you have a 6 slot game you only need 5 trips. You could be quite shocked at your results. Remember every winning trip follows that logic.


1-2-4.clm
skip(0) = 1
and
skip(1) >= 1
and
skip(1) <= 2
and
skip(2) >= 1
and
skip(2) <= 2
and
skip(3) >= 1
and
skip(3) <= 2
and
skip(4) >= 1
and
skip(4) <= 2

 

[Springbok]

Hi again Patrick

I just want to add that it is surprising how much order exists in a chaotic system. In other words behind every chaotic system there us a sense of order which can be found. This type of filter whether using a current skip of 0 or 1 or 2 can produce these results. Each current skip contains the winning trips which follows the logic. Experiment and see for yourself. This type of filter is very accurate, it leaves the others in the dust.

 

[turtle0747]

Hello Springbok

Check out the following filter. Look at the logic. We are using trips. It seeks out trips which are in a pretty steady state and we hope they continue that way for the next 2 draws. Run the filter for your game and look at the stream of trips. The winning trips are in there. You got to find them. Collect a whole bunch of them but exclude the last draw before you load.Make sure they have different numbers. All those that did not hit in the last excluded draw qualify for the next draw.If you have a 6 slot game you only need 5 trips. You could be quite shocked at your results. Remember every winning trip follows that logic.


1-2-4.clm
skip(0) = 1
and
skip(1) >= 1
and
skip(1) <= 2
and
skip(2) >= 1
and
skip(2) <= 2
and
skip(3) >= 1
and
skip(3) <= 2
and
skip(4) >= 1
and
skip(4) <= 2

Hello Springbok

Can you explain a little about filters? If this is a column filter, how is it converted? If I try to load it named 1-2-4.CLM, it gives me an 'invalid filter'. Does it have to be converted somehow?

Thanks
turtle0747

 

[HalfBee]

Hello Springbok

Can you explain a little about filters? If this is a column filter, how is it converted?

I have to second this... It would be nice to have a bit more documentation or explanation on some of the things here. Seems there is maybe a half dozen people active on this thread.

I've only been looking at this about a week and I have to say this:
I appreciate the work that's gone into this program. In backtesting I've found that when it hits... IT HITS HARD... but then there's some draws that produce nothing no matter how hard you whack it with a hammer...

Keep working on it...