Winnalotto-Sangoma 2

[taaroa]

Bonjour SpringBok,

What a happy man you are! I have not played the bookie this Friday because I did not feel the numbers I got were good. I was right. None hit. I remembered Fullhouse's advice that after some wins in a row, there will be a loss. Cyclic nature of everything in Earth probably.

I used your alpha3.flt filter which gave me good results in a row last weeks. But this time, pairs where not confirmed by trips and almost all were different. After-checking showed that using no .flt filter gave good results. I wonder what to do for Saturday draws. For to-morrow, I have used Pick632 layers triples and tested them with Opening Batsmen4 which gave me a 9-25 pair.
Without any filter and sorting on MaxVal col, 9-25 is on top with 50% but 4-45 and 8-25 are at 72,72%. I'll test other filters.


taaroa

Bonjour SpringBok,

Well, 9 from Pick632 layers pop up draw1 but Alpha3.flt is back with Opening batsmen pair 41-42 with 41 popping up draw1 and 42 popping draw2.

The problem for me is I have not enough experience on those temporary changing, these cycles. But I'll learn.

taaroa

 

[barge]

Keep Trying!!

Good morning (or maybe evening in your case Taaroa!).
Using the "best" filters as listed, I managed all 5 numbers in the Tball, sadly my five were spread over four tickets, so a poor return for a good selection, taken from 17 numbers(excellent)......., but no tball!
I might think about a small wheel, but I don't want to play more than 5 tickets at a time(4 this time).
One number, 16, came up on the no filter pairs, on a Simple sort 16,24, and on RebalP, 5,16.

 

[Springbok]

Hi Barge

Come on Barge how come you are missing the 5/34 section what with 532 and Bright5 as well as the latest incarnation of the programme. I have been keeping away from the thunderball game as I have not got a handle on the actual thunderball. Anyway this afternoon and took a look at the thunderball. What I have done is to take the 14 numbers and pretend it is a 3/14 game. Using combinations.exe .It produced around 390 trips which incorporate those 14 numbers, in other words a full wheel. All I got to do now is to use the existing filters and see what gives in at least tracking down the correct thunderball in a trip of three-sure beats trying to work out which of the 14 and hoping for some help from St Jude. Speaking of St Jude, I read in the paper a week or so ago that some paedophile won the lottery. This makes me think St Jude does not do lotteries
Notwithstanding I will report back on my findings on trying to track down the thunderball and any techniques that come in useful.

 

[Springbok]

Hi Barge again

I did not take me long to realise how powerful the programme is in tracking down thunderballs. My first test hit the trip that contained the Thunderball. Forget combinations. exe, the programme does it for you. Click on 14 for balls and 1 for numbers in the draw(I assume you have a data file of the actual Thunderball numbers). Load the data file(except the draws for testing). Hit the trips control and voila you have all the trips from 14 numbers. Now check out the filters. I think it was draad3 that brought me the winning tbal number next draw in the trip.This is most goodly. I cannot think why I did not think of this before,duh!

 

[barge]

Hi Springbok

Thanks for the encouragement, I will give it a try...I actually do something similar when I try (occasionally)the Euronums, 2 from 9, I didn't think of "tripling" the 5/34 Tball!
As regards the win you mentioned, there are some strange saints around, or should I say were around?

The current saints as far as I'm concerned are the Irish.....well done bejaysus!! Watch the unelected squirming this week.....................!

Sorry, that's way off subject. I only bought a couple of 6/49 tickets this weekend, with no results.

 

[taaroa]

Hi Barge, Springbok,

I looked at the Thunderball 5/34 +1/14. The odds are very good. I think that would be better for me than the bookie 49S7.
I must play the bookie Lunchtime and teatime draws at once. The Kelly criterion calculator say : Don't bet. I'll however continue to play the bookie combining two pairs to have one pair which two numbers hit. That is the only solution. Today, il played the Opening Batsmen 22-24. Both hit. I paired them with the Skipsitter pair 16-17. None hit. So, I loss. Would I have played the InBetweener 41-42, I'd have won. I got these pairs with the Alpha3.flt filter.

If we can forecast the Thunderball with a good probability, that would be great. I'll test Springbok method.


taaroa

 

[Springbok]

Bonjour Taaroa

I am using another method chasing a number pair with the 49s. The emphasis is on safety and simplicity. Call up a file, say omega. This will be a trip file. At the bottom of the screen uncheck the first radio button and the third radio button. Put the cursor on the first trip. In the reporting screen you will see the unsorted history. The critical number is 4. You are trying to find a trip that has not gone past 4 for as long as possible. This is the sign of a stable trip. Only use the trips whose current ongoing skip is 0 or 1. When you have found a suitable one then clear the filter screen and type in the trip. Then hit pairs. Pick the pair with the highest rating. Backcheck this method. It is pretty good. I had my first official win at lunchtime and would have had my second at teatime if had updated the datafile. The method is simple and it works pretty well.

 

[taaroa]

I am using another method chasing a number pair with the 49s. The emphasis is on safety and simplicity. Call up a file, say omega. This will be a trip file. At the bottom of the screen uncheck the first radio button and the third radio button. Put the cursor on the first trip. In the reporting screen you will see the unsorted history. The critical number is 4. You are trying to find a trip that has not gone past 4 for as long as possible. This is the sign of a stable trip. Only use the trips whose current ongoing skip is 0 or 1. When you have found a suitable one then clear the filter screen and type in the trip. Then hit pairs. Pick the pair with the highest rating. Backcheck this method. It is pretty good. I had my first official win at lunchtime and would have had my second at teatime if had updated the datafile. The method is simple and it works pretty well.

Bonjour Springbok,

Thanks for the tip. I'll backtest it.

taaroa

 

[struxo]

I am using another method chasing a number pair with the 49s. The emphasis is on safety and simplicity. Call up a file, say omega. This will be a trip file. At the bottom of the screen uncheck the first radio button and the third radio button. Put the cursor on the first trip. In the reporting screen you will see the unsorted history. The critical number is 4. You are trying to find a trip that has not gone past 4 for as long as possible. This is the sign of a stable trip. Only use the trips whose current ongoing skip is 0 or 1. When you have found a suitable one then clear the filter screen and type in the trip. Then hit pairs. Pick the pair with the highest rating.

Thanx Springbok for idea.
You can make 6 files of your lottery. One for every position(vertical), then you find trip or like you suggested pair. Then you have one pair for each position ,that's 12 numbers. Not so far from jackpot.

regards
Struxo

 

[Springbok]

Sawubona Patrick

Unjani? It has occurred to me there is another way of estimating the probability of a pair, trip etc. There is nothing wrong with the current reporting but it depends on the reliability of the pair, trip on question. Thinking about the latest technique with trips I am surprised at its accuracy in estimating reliability over a period of x draws. We revisit the territory original equation of historical highs but with a different perspective. We look at the current ongoing skip and add 4. The reliability of the trip.pair is dependant on the span of skip cycles where the +4 has not been exceeded. For example if it has not exceeded the +4 mark for say 30 skip cycles then we can regard it as very reliable or stable. I am looking at it from the pair.trip betting on the 49s that is why we use the +4 high water mark. Of course you could use the +3 or +2 high water mark. Maybe you could add this function to the programme. What will happen is that this function will seek reliable trips,pairs and the existing reporting function can help in fine tuning where the trip pair will hit. Remember the new function is based on unsorted order .

 

[Springbok]

G'day Patrick again

Initially the reporting on the new function should tell us how many skip cycles passed before the trip.pair exceeded the set high water mark. Once that is achieved one would be able to estimate the level of reliability vs the number of skip cycles so a percentage probability can be produced through thorough testing. Using the original function by dividing the trips into 3 pairs is pretty accurate though. The only problem is when you have 2 pairs with the same percentage.

 

[turtle0747]

Hello BP from turtle0747

I've been tracking with a spreadsheet which filters are picking numbers
that appear the most in future draws.

1) Very Hot Numbers

2) Yo Yo High Prob

3) Fullhouse6

4) Springbok2

5) Special3

6) Hot Numbers

-BP

Hello BP

What columns do you use or what columns do you sort on to pick your numbers?

 

[black prince]

Hi turtle0747

Originally posted by Turtle0747
What columns do you use or what columns do you sort on to pick your numbers?

I backtested those filters and they produced winning numbers sporadically.
I now use 'very hot numbers', 'BPMedianD', 'MaxVal', 'N+X>=H'
and 'Median Due'. BPMedianD gives me all 5 out of 5, but it's usually 20 to 25
numbers for 5/30. 'MaxVal', 'N+X>=H' and 'Median Due' gives me 4 out of 5,
especially trips. Very Hot Numbers filter most times gives me the fifth number
of 4 out 5. This works for me. My challenge is to work them in such a way
that there are 11 to 15 strong numbers to create all combinations and reduce
them using Winnalotto's Purge Screen. I use Very Hot Numbers as key numbers
which must be present in every predicted drawing and numbers that frequently
appear in Balls, Pairs and Trips from 'MaxVal', 'N+X>=H' and 'Median Due'.
I have won mostly 4 out of 5, but no JP yet.


-BP

 

[turtle0747]

Hello BP

I backtested those filters and they produced winning numbers sporadically.
I now use 'very hot numbers', 'BPMedianD', 'MaxVal', 'N+X>=H'
and 'Median Due'. BPMedianD gives me all 5 out of 5, but it's usually 20 to 25
numbers for 5/30. 'MaxVal', 'N+X>=H' and 'Median Due' gives me 4 out of 5,
especially trips. Very Hot Numbers filter most times gives me the fifth number
of 4 out 5. This works for me. My challenge is to work them in such a way
that there are 11 to 15 strong numbers to create all combinations and reduce
them using Winnalotto's Purge Screen. I use Very Hot Numbers as key numbers
which must be present in every predicted drawing and numbers that frequently
appear in Balls, Pairs and Trips from 'MaxVal', 'N+X>=H' and 'Median Due'.
I have won mostly 4 out of 5, but no JP yet.


-BP

Hello BP

Thanks! very hot numbers, bpmediand are formulas. maxval, n+x>=h, and median due are the columns you check when you run these filters?? I will do some back testing for Florida.

 

[black prince]

turtle0747

Originally posted by Turtle0747
Hello BP

Thanks! very hot numbers, bpmediand are formulas. maxval, n+x>=h, and median due are the columns you check when you run these filters?? I will do some back testing for Florida.

Turtle0747,

For columns maxval, n+x>=h, and median due, I sort each (z - a) or
max to min and pick the first number(s) from each after sort. I do this for Balls, Pairs,
and Trips.

BTW, I hope Patrick can continue adding more filters to the PURGE screen.

Good Luck

-BP

 

[turtle0747]

Hello BP

Turtle0747,

For columns maxval, n+x>=h, and median due, I sort each (z - a) or
max to min and pick the first number(s) from each after sort. I do this for Balls, Pairs,
and Trips.

BTW, I hope Patrick can continue adding more filters to the PURGE screen.

Good Luck

-BP

Thanks! What kind of selection criteria are you using on the PURGE tab?? Some of them are a bit confusing without documentation. I find some of them wipe out all the selections.

 

[taaroa]

Sabuwona SpringBok,

Well, today I have another loss. I do get a good Opening batsmen pair 17-18 with 17 hitting at draw 2 but the other SkipSitter pair 43-44 did not hit albeit a 72% perc. So, the four pairs from these combined two pairs did not hit.

I backtested your method with the unsorted cycles and the skip4 reference. Good results, but for yesterday it was not good. So I did not used this method for today. In fact, I made an error, coufounding cycles 10 and 1 0. In reality, it was a good pair. I'll use the method for tomorrow.

This method have to be automatized in order not to be confused with long lists of skips.

hamba kahle.


taaroa

 

[Springbok]

Aloha Taaroa

I would not touch the skipsitters, inbetweeners or opening batsmen for the 49s. No ways.I only used historical highs in the past. Even now I will not use them; Go for the method I last told you using trips and pairs. I think this is the way forward. Before you risk a single penny backtest. I have a standard backtest of 50 bets. The backtest can be anywhere in the history files. If Patrick can code in the new reporting function then the testing will be much quicker and a whole new stream of information will emerge. Stop betting until you are fully familiar with the new approach and your mind has digested it. Backtesting will train your mind. It takes me a week or two to become comfortable with a method.
So for the moment put the filters in the cupboard. We will drag them out at a later stage for a fresh look.

 

[taaroa]

I would not touch the skipsitters, inbetweeners or opening batsmen for the 49s. No ways.I only used historical highs in the past. Even now I will not use them; Go for the method I last told you using trips and pairs. I think this is the way forward. Before you risk a single penny backtest. I have a standard backtest of 50 bets. The backtest can be anywhere in the history files. If Patrick can code in the new reporting function then the testing will be much quicker and a whole new stream of information will emerge. Stop betting until you are fully familiar with the new approach and your mind has digested it. Backtesting will train your mind. It takes me a week or two to become comfortable with a method.
So for the moment put the filters in the cupboard. We will drag them out at a later stage for a fresh look.

Bonjour Patrick,

You are right. I must train before betting again. For tomorrow, I got the pair 34-35 with Alpha3.flt and the pair 5-14 with zulu3.flt. Will see what happen tomorrow.

Must go now. hamba kahle. See you later.

taaroa

 

[taaroa]

I am using another method chasing a number pair with the 49s. The emphasis is on safety and simplicity. Call up a file, say omega. This will be a trip file. At the bottom of the screen uncheck the first radio button and the third radio button. Put the cursor on the first trip. In the reporting screen you will see the unsorted history. The critical number is 4. You are trying to find a trip that has not gone past 4 for as long as possible. This is the sign of a stable trip. Only use the trips whose current ongoing skip is 0 or 1. When you have found a suitable one then clear the filter screen and type in the trip. Then hit pairs. Pick the pair with the highest rating. Backcheck this method. It is pretty good. I had my first official win at lunchtime and would have had my second at teatime if had updated the datafile. The method is simple and it works pretty well.

Bonjour SpringBok,

Just to be sure I have understood. You said "You are trying to find a trip that has not gone past 4 for as long as possible". So you count back the skips with values of 0,1,3,4 and stop at the first skip >4. Am I right?

Thank you.

taaroa