Winnalotto-Sangoma 2

[Patrick123]

Hi Springbok,

That might well be the way to go. What we do at the moment, is done in 2 steps.
1. Select the numbers.
2. Build the combinations then purge them.

Maybe what we must do is to select about 40 numbers first round,
Second round trim down by 5 numbers,
and repeat this process until we come down to the required number of balls we want in our draws, then finally switch to the purging.

 

[black prince]

Hi Patrick123

Originated from Patrick123
Maybe what we must do is to select about 40 numbers first round,
Second round trim down by 5 numbers,
and repeat this process until we come down to the required number of balls we want in our draws, then finally switch to the purging.

This also is my approach. I've been able to select 17 to 20 numbers with the
5 winning numbers consistantly for 5 out 30. Then I reduce this set of
numbers to 12 to 15 numbers. Finally, I create all combinations and
purge using both static and dynamic filters without removing the JP draw.
My problem is producing anti-filters for reducing 17 to 20 numbers isn't
effective. My backtesting is dropping 1 or 2 winning numbers at this point
Very Hot Numbers filters usually hits in 1 or 2 draws and is very reliable.
We need more filters like that for reduction.

-BP

 

[black prince]

Patrick123

Hi Patrick
I've created a filter that compares Skip1 to the Median Due. I seems to
ignore my last column filter:

Col30:
#20 > #7

Col31:
#20 - #7

Col32:
#31 < 5

Col32 does not seem to work. Can you give me some clues why?

-BP

 

[Springbok]

Guten Tag Patrick

I do not normally enter the territory of the 5/34 area of the UK Thunderball game. Anyway last night I was fooling around with it with the programme. Basically I try and forecast the trips for the next draw. To my surprise I picked 4 trips and they covered the next draw. 12 numbers contained all the winning numbers. Of course this was a favourable situation as 1 trip contained 2 winning numbers and the other 3 had a winning number each. The area covered by each trip has an approximate ratio of 1 in 11. To have a similar ratio in the 6/49 game you would need a quad. This ratio increases forecasting accuracy. In the 6/49 game. Is it possible to have quads for the programme. Quad flt files would be called upon for analysis. Of course the full monty would be horrific that is why calling a specific flt file of 12 quads is better. I have a VB6 programme linked quad files which convert the real draws into the specific quad format but the Winnalotto programme makes research much easier and quicker than my rather neanderthal approach. Talking about simulated draws, if you stick on 5 or more real draws you will see they increase accuracy.

 

[taaroa]

Aloha Patrick,

The more I play with Winnalotto, the more I think this is the better known
program ever created for lotto. Thanks very much Patrick, SpringBok and others
for sharing.

Pairs and Trips given are very reliable. I won a pair 47-48 on today's 49S,
and win practically each day, using the Fullhouse's money management.

I just want to create DraadSitter3 to 7 or more and don't know how to code them.

I'm trying to understand the coding of criteria for column filter.
Some are easy to understand, somme others more difficult.

DraadSitter is for skip1=median. In your DraadSitter filter:

#20 <= 4 : skip1 <= 4
and
#21 <= 4 : skip2 <= 4
and
#21 > #1 : skip2 > #1
and
#22 <= 4 : skip3 <= 4
and
#22 > #1 : skip3 > #1
and
#20 <= #1 : skip1 <= #1
and
#20 > 0 : skip1 > 0


1) #20 <= 4 skip1 <= 4 : Skip1 equal or higher than 4 are excluded

2) #20 <= #1 skip1 <= #1 : Skip1 equal or smaller than median are excluded.

I understand for skip1 smaller than median. I don't understand for skip1=median.
This would exclude all DraadSitter but the filter however work fine.

3)#20 > 0 skip1 > 0 :skip1 is higher than 0

Ok. Skip1=0 = Opening Batsmen

Your explanations will be of great help.

Thanks in advance.

taaroa

 

[Springbok]

Bonjour Taaroa

Comment ca va. It is a superb programme. At the moment with the bookies lottery I use a trip and it is one shot one kill. Here are some ideas to play with. Remember the grids used by Fullhouse and the other wind grids. Use them but when a pair is left on a line put it into the filter window and see what it might do. Best to use 4 grids and pick the strongest pair.
Look at this idea. You should be familiar with the 632 programme. The All filter attempts to predict a number in a group of 6. You have a number of D6 files and many layers. find three 6 number combinations which will be expected to appear in the next draw. The idea is to pick a trip from each. Each combination has 2 trips. Put the two trips into the programme and see which is the stronger. If you get it right then you have a pool of 9 numbers and at least three are winning numbers. Add another trip and you have 4 trips. 4 of the 6 slots are occupied by trips. You are 67% of the way to hitting the Jackpot. At the moment I am not getting the accuracy with the forecast. Sometimes the correct trip is identified because of the higher % sometimes it is the one with the lower%.

 

[taaroa]

Aloha, Bonjour SpringBok,

çà va très bien, merci. With your methods and Winnalotto, I have had good results with the bookies 49s lotto. I play 49S7 with bonus. I'm also testing the 649 french lotto and Euromillions.

I also continue to follow Fullhouse grids, just Northwind at present time. I got 1 good pair Yesterday, 3rd draw. Today, the line was not yet qualified. The PAIR 23-26 just qualified after the 8 JUNE drawing.

The only problem for me with the bookie lotto is the drawing hours. I cannot play for Lunchtime then wait for the results and then play for Teatime. Lunchtime drawing is at 1.00 pm in UK. It is 1.00 am in Tahiti. This is my dreaming time! I have the same problem for 649. I must play the two drawings once.
It's a problem for money management. It is the reason I'm working on pairs wich two numbers may hit. 1/39 is better than 1/6 ratio stake/prize, in fact, you must divide this ratio by 2, but it is good.

I will follow your advice and look at all grids and test them in Winnalotto. I must read again the Isolator revised to refresh my ideas. Yes, I'm familiar with the Pick632 and others of Saliu's programs. I'll test your ideas which have had proved till now that they are very judicious. Proofs have been demonstrated.

So,thank you again and have a good day!

taaroa.

 

[Patrick123]

Good Morning Everyone,

One of the major problems with some filters, is the pure amount of rows that come back, to the point nearly every number is selected somewhere.
Springbok, gets around this with his Alpha and Zulu file filters. What I do especially when a lot of rows are returned for the pairs and trips, I right click & choose ‘Number Frequency’. What this does is to count the number of times the ball was selected in the filter & graphs it. E.g. The Opening Batsmen High Probability Graph with Trips, made the numbers 7, 34 and not so much 22 stand out.

I break the Lotto down into 3 main categories:
The Opening Batsmen – these are balls that appeared in the previous draw.
The In-betweeners or Draadsitters – these are balls that appeared between 1 and about 8 draws before.
The Cold numbers – Anything over 8 draws. I usually include Historical High in this category as well.

Other Filters of interest or my back-up filters are then.
The Very Hot Numbers are relatively active numbers and could usually be found in both Opening Batsmen & In-Betweeners.
The UBoat, are numbers that are not too hot, but pop up every now and again.
Springboks, Fullhouse6 and Springbok2 usually tend to throw up a ball or 2 every now and again. I usually keep a special eye for numbers that appear in both simultaneously.

Most of the other filters are as what I test and experiment or what others send in.

When there’s a lot of Pairs or Trips, I usually don’t take the complete trip as such, but using the ‘Number Frequency’ graph, zoom in on 2 or 3 numbers only.

I then load the next level and repeat the process. Loading the Next Level, you must ensure that the ‘skip level’ is going to synchronise with the next draw. So the settings should be:

Level Z –> Skip First X Lines -> Load Every Y Lines
Z, X, Y
1,0,1
2,1,2
3,2,3
4,3,4
5,4,5

In other words for all situations, X mod Y = (Y-1).

At these levels, the definitions of the filters are exactly the same, but different.
The Opening batsmen at levels 2 and 3 are actually Draadsitters are level 1 but would likely reflect as cold at higher levels.
Draadsitters at the higher levels would reflect as Cold or Historical High.
Historical Highs, If you take your levels high enough, could actually start reflecting as Opening Batsmen and Draadsitters.

The secret then becomes in isolating the favourites at these levels, and if the pattern matches through all the levels, (as in the #46 and #28) tagging it as a high probability.
This is currently what I’m experimenting with and still needs a lot of testing.

I usually load about 500 draws. What I also have, is a bunch of randomly generated draws below these, the reason, Once you load level2 you effectively only have 500 /2 or 250 actual draws, so this is then filled up with any extra draws & the simulated draws to ensure a consistent 500 draws always been loaded.


Regards
Patrick

 

[bloubul]

Good Morning Everyone,

One of the major problems with some filters, is the pure amount of rows that come back, to the point nearly every number is selected somewhere.
Springbok, gets around this with his Alpha and Zulu file filters. What I do especially when a lot of rows are returned for the pairs and trips, I right click & choose ‘Number Frequency’. What this does is to count the number of times the ball was selected in the filter & graphs it. E.g. The Opening Batsmen High Probability Graph with Trips, made the numbers 7, 34 and not so much 22 stand out.

I break the Lotto down into 3 main categories:
The Opening Batsmen – these are balls that appeared in the previous draw.
The In-betweeners or Draadsitters – these are balls that appeared between 1 and about 8 draws before.
The Cold numbers – Anything over 8 draws. I usually include Historical High in this category as well.

Other Filters of interest or my back-up filters are then.
The Very Hot Numbers are relatively active numbers and could usually be found in both Opening Batsmen & In-Betweeners.
The UBoat, are numbers that are not too hot, but pop up every now and again.
Springboks, Fullhouse6 and Springbok2 usually tend to throw up a ball or 2 every now and again. I usually keep a special eye for numbers that appear in both simultaneously.

Most of the other filters are as what I test and experiment or what others send in.

When there’s a lot of Pairs or Trips, I usually don’t take the complete trip as such, but using the ‘Number Frequency’ graph, zoom in on 2 or 3 numbers only.

I then load the next level and repeat the process. Loading the Next Level, you must ensure that the ‘skip level’ is going to synchronise with the next draw. So the settings should be:

Level Z –> Skip First X Lines -> Load Every Y Lines
Z, X, Y
1,0,1
2,1,2
3,2,3
4,3,4
5,4,5

In other words for all situations, X mod Y = (Y-1).

At these levels, the definitions of the filters are exactly the same, but different.
The Opening batsmen at levels 2 and 3 are actually Draadsitters are level 1 but would likely reflect as cold at higher levels.
Draadsitters at the higher levels would reflect as Cold or Historical High.
Historical Highs, If you take your levels high enough, could actually start reflecting as Opening Batsmen and Draadsitters.

The secret then becomes in isolating the favourites at these levels, and if the pattern matches through all the levels, (as in the #46 and #28) tagging it as a high probability.
This is currently what I’m experimenting with and still needs a lot of testing.

I usually load about 500 draws. What I also have, is a bunch of randomly generated draws below these, the reason, Once you load level2 you effectively only have 500 /2 or 250 actual draws, so this is then filled up with any extra draws & the simulated draws to ensure a consistent 500 draws always been loaded.


Regards
Patrick

OK BROER
In which column must I BE TO RIGTH click number Frequency as you discribe.
My system froes????????????????
BlouBul

 

[Springbok]

Howzit Patrick

I want to amplify on using the ALL filter and layers with the 5/34 section of the UK Thunderball draw.
I pulled out three combinations that the stats indicated would appear this Wednesday. The first number is the file number, the L indicates the layer where found.
D6....L3....8,10,15,18,28
D3....L3... 6,14,15,30,33
D8...L3.....10,13,19,26,30

At least one number will appear from each line(probably 2 in one line). I will eliminate the 10 because I do not think it will appear. Taking the D6 line, you have two choices. You can split it into trips say 6,10,15 and 15,18,28. They are put into the flt window to check out the reporting. If you can accurately forecast which will come up you will have 3 trips which could hold 3 or 4 winning numbers. You could also split them into pairs say{ 9,10}{15,18,}{18,28} and try and find what is expected to appear. At the moment with the 6/49 game it is tricky to rely on the percentage reporting. I am going to have another look on how these stats are calculated.
You will notice that 15 is repeated in two of those combinations. This may or may not be relevant.

 

[Patrick123]

Hi Bloubul,

You can be in any column, the program checks by row. When you use it for trips, it might take a bit of time, pairs & balls is usually fast.

Hi Springbok,
Have you tried loading these files at the different levels to see if you get a similar result?

 

[turtle0747]

Hello Patrick123

Hi Bloubul,

You can be in any column, the program checks by row. When you use it for trips, it might take a bit of time, pairs & balls is usually fast.

Hi Springbok,
Have you tried loading these files at the different levels to see if you get a similar result?

Hello Patrick123

Have a question about the graph. The number count on the right only goes up to 30. Can it be increased to 53 somehow?

Thanks
turtle0747

 

[Patrick123]

Hi Patrick
I've created a filter that compares Skip1 to the Median Due. I seems to
ignore my last column filter:



Col32 does not seem to work. Can you give me some clues why?

-BP

Hi Black Prince,

For some reason the Median Due Column (#7) was not being picked up in the formulae, but it seems to be corrected now.

I've released an update WinnaLotto - 10 June 2008 Build 1.

This should sort this out, as well as added in the ability to load a file at the purge screen. Any invalid row will show as ones.

Regards
Patrick

 

[Patrick123]

Hello Patrick123

Have a question about the graph. The number count on the right only goes up to 30. Can it be increased to 53 somehow?

Thanks
turtle0747

Hi turtle0747,

The graph adjusts automatically to what is on display.

 

[Patrick123]

... Is it possible to have quads for the programme. Quad flt files would be called upon for analysis. Of course the full monty would be horrific that is why calling a specific flt file of 12 quads is better. I have a VB6 programme linked quad files which convert the real draws into the specific quad format but the Winnalotto programme makes research much easier and quicker than my rather neanderthal approach. Talking about simulated draws, if you stick on 5 or more real draws you will see they increase accuracy.

Hi Springbok,

WinnaLotto V1 has the capability to deal with quads & quints. I left it out of V2 as V2 catered for all combinations where V1 generated random packages. I will have a look to see if I can incorporate it, but don't hold your breath.

I will most probably start with a V3 within a month or two that will include this as V2 starting to take the shape of a taxi with a trailer and 2 roof-racks stuck on top.

Regards
Patrick

 

[Springbok]

Bonsoir Taaroa

You might like to try this technique with the bookies lottery. Pick a trip.I don't like betting on trips because there are 3 numbers. Put the trip into the flt box and hit pairs. Bet on the strongest pairs. I have tested this a couple of times and it looks good. The initial trip will give you the sweet spot to start with. Now if you have ever played cricket, when the ball hits the sweet spot on the bat, you can hit it out if the field

 

[Springbok]

Allo Allo Patrick

No rush on the quads. These things take time. I spend a lot of time looking at the sorted and unsorted history of pairs and trips. I print them out and stare at them on the bus and tube. People read papers I read streams of numbers The name of the game is perception. There are 24 horses and 6 will hit the winning post simultaneously- that is a ratio of 1 in 4. For every four of those chaps one will win. I want to know them before the event. For if you can slot one pair into each of the 6 slots you got 64 combinations for the Jackpot. Unleash the purging facilities of Bright6 or 632 and you are home and dry sipping some fancy French Champagne. Hell, you can even have a bath in it
Look at it this way. Your average punter in a horse race with 24 horses has to find the winner. We got 6 horses running for us. Surely we can find them.

 

[taaroa]

You might like to try this technique with the bookies lottery. Pick a trip.I don't like betting on trips because there are 3 numbers. Put the trip into the flt box and hit pairs. Bet on the strongest pairs. I have tested this a couple of times and it looks good. The initial trip will give you the sweet spot to start with. Now if you have ever played cricket, when the ball hits the sweet spot on the bat, you can hit it out if the field.

Bonsoir SpringBok,

I'm testing your former idea about using Pick632 to find combi of 6 with 1 number and then form trips to test in Winnalotto. Interesting but not so easy to be accurate, but the method is promising. If you add the isolator which can bring one or two numbers, the jackpot is not far.

Thanks for your today's method. It boosts the accuracy of chosen numbers.
I'm also going on learning how some filters are constructed. You have better know what and why you do things to go forward.

I have never played cricket, but I played tennis and there is a sweet spot in the middle area of the racket strings. I understand what you mean.

taaroa

 

[taaroa]

Ok, for today. 0:30 AM now in Tahiti. I feel asleep. So have a good day or a good night! It depends on where you are.

And see you to-morrow.

taaroa

 

[black prince]

Patrick123

Originally Posted by Partick123

Hi Black Prince,

For some reason the Median Due Column (#7) was not being picked up in the formulae, but it seems to be corrected now.

I've released an update WinnaLotto - 10 June 2008 Build 1.

This should sort this out, as well as added in the ability to load a file at the purge screen. Any invalid row will show as ones.

Regards
Patrick

Hi Patrick,
I just downloaded Winnalotto 10 June 2008 Build 1 and tested the problem,
but the problem still remains. Here's what I'm trying to do:

1) Testing Balls for when 'Skip 1' is greater than 'Median Due' and the
difference is less than 5, then select this number. Backtesting this has
given me 17 to 20 numbers which 5 out-of 5 always appears. Your fix
didn't seem to correct the problem. There were 3 numbers that should
have been removed. Maybe there's another way to solve this.

Thanks

-BP