Winnalotto-Sangoma 2

[Patrick123]

Hi turtle0747,

Moses' File only runs numbers up to 49, so I don't know if he is able to assist you with an equivalent file? If He can, let me know, then I'll adjust the selection buttons to reflect this.

Hi black prince,
Yep that was one of those rare situations, pity it got trimmed off (that's the time it should have been 19,22,27,28) To me the most important is that a person must gain confidence in the programs that they are using, Once the experimental stage is over, hopefully we'll all be cracking those high winnings.

Regards
Patrick

 

[black prince]

Patrick123

Origunated from Patrick123
Hi black prince,
Yep that was one of those rare situations, pity it got trimmed off (that's the time it should have been 19,22,27,28) To me the most important is that a person must gain confidence in the programs that they are using, Once the experimental stage is over, hopefully we'll all be cracking those high winnings.

Regards
Patrick

Hi Patrick
Actually, I'm quite pleased with this. I still get between 4 or 5 numbers from
Winnalotto consistantly now. The purge process is getting there. When I
filter draws with numbers that show strong indications of coming it's fantastic.
This dramatically reduces my draws and gives me a much more assured
feeling of winning. I simply compare the 'Median' to 'Skip1' and if skip1 is
greater and the difference is less than 5, I pick it. The pool of numbers is
usually 12 to 17. Maybe you could try this and see if it works for SA. I'm
able to filter the 'Median' and 'Skip1', but the subtraction and testing the
difference is difficult to filter in Winnalotto. I perform the difference manually.
When I bought my tickets today, a lady in front of me cashed in her tickets
for $2,000 and I sure wished it was me. Someday I will even do better.


-BP

 

[Patrick123]

Hi black prince

What should have been a simple filter is not working

All that you needed was a filter column with #7 < 5

Not serious here is a work around for the time being:

Column 30 - View Column Unchecked - Filter column Checked.

#20 > #1

Column 31 - View Column Checked - Filter column Unchecked.

#20 - #1

Column 32 - View Column Unchecked - Filter column Checked.

#31 < 5

Regards
Patrick

 

[Springbok]

Kunjani Patrick

Later on today I will give examples of how to test for the reliability of number pairs(trips as well). So people can test the reliability of pairs produced by the filters or even pairs not produced by filters. It will involve simple calculations and thoughts about Bell curves and their fat and thin tails on either side of the curve and most important is offsetting. People will have to think of the current skip as being the skip 2,3 or 4 draws ago. Initially people will use it for research to gain an understanding of what these pairs are saying to you. Putting these ideas into the programme will speed up development. At the moment I test these ideas and bet on the results. The problem I find is when I switch off my desktop and carry on with my laptop I tend to fall asleep. Having a computer programme to evaluate the parameters will speed up development. I know one of the things that must be done is for the programme to convert the pairings into specific number sets which are essential to start with. My VB6 codes do this for me but Winnalotto needs to do this as well. Hopefully the programme will end up giving undreamed levels of accuracy.

 

[Patrick123]

Dumela Sprinbok,

That sounds good. I'll start concentrating on that next week, once I've finished adding in the last of the basic purge filters.

Regards
Patrick

 

[GillesD]

Static filters

STATIC FILTERS
1) all odd or all even numbers
2) 3 or more consecutive numbers
3) 3 or more numbers in one decade
4) 3 or more numbers with same digits ending
5) 3 or more squared numbers
6) 3 or more prime numbers
7) standard deviation + and -1 deviation
8) draw matched from previous winning draw history

Interesting approach as far as filters but 2 things:

1 - What do you mean exactly by: "standard deviation + and -1 deviation"?
2 - How can you consider a filter with previous draws a static filter? The value obtained changes after each draw and it is different for each lottery.

 

[Patrick123]

Hi GillesD,

I think that there is just a small communication gap as to what black prince means by static filters.
The statements are meant to imply that the computer can work out these values without user intervention.

The Standard Deviation implies that 68% of the Bell Curve is covered in the initial filter. I presume that is the reason why I have not made it automatic, in case anyone wants 2 times the standard deviation or 95% or even 3 times the standard deviation at 99.7 %. The filter will be initially set to 2 times Standard Deviation, but I'm going to try and allow proportional percentages instead of absolute deviation amounts.

Now the percentages for the median are completely different, I assume that you would be able to work these out,

Very likely I'll add a preferences page into the program to cater for initial defaults.

Regards
Patrick

 

[barge]

Hi Patrick and All

i have caught up with the changes to Winnalotto, with the exception of Moses.......can someone give me a brief idea of what it it does?
As regards purging, can we purge the previous winning draws yet? Or is there a way to use the Data files Lotto or Tball manually to do it?

Many thanks in advance!

 

[black prince]

Patrick123

Originated from Patrick123
Hi black prince
What should have been a simple filter is not working

All that you needed was a filter column with #7 < 5

Not serious here is a work around for the time being:

Column 30 - View Column Unchecked - Filter column Checked.
Quote:
#20 > #1

Column 31 - View Column Checked - Filter column Unchecked.
Quote:
#20 - #1

Column 32 - View Column Unchecked - Filter column Checked.
Quote:
#31 < 5

Regards
Patrick

Perfect. This is a big help. Looking at the pattern made from
each set of numbers for 'median minus skips', I've discovered some more
interesting patterns being formed. This could reduce the set of numbers and
still retain the winning numbers.

Originated from Patrick123
Hi GillesD,

I think that there is just a small communication gap as to what black prince means by static filters.
The statements are meant to imply that the computer can work out these values without user intervention.

Exactly I'm beginning to discovery that the static filters have to be
applied carefully or they will easily remove the winning draw. I do believe
they are necessary to reduce draws, but they must be use carefully.
My test is to run the past winning draws throught them and if 90%+
survive then I'll use them else I reduce the more agressive ones. For
example, Decades has been killing me with 3 or more. I will write a
program to scan the history and display what seem to be common
ranges for each filter.

-BP

 

[GillesD]

Static filter #1

This might save you some time. Here is the theorical values for each odd/even ratios (from 0/6 to 6/0).

0 odd / 6 even: 134,596 combinations or 0.96%
1 odd / 5 even: 1,062,600 combinations or 7.60%
2 odd / 4 even: 3,187,800 combinations or 22.80%
3 odd / 3 even: 4,655,200 combinations or 33.29%
4 odd / 2 even: 3,491,400 combinations or 24.97%
5 odd / 1 even: 1,275,120 combinations or 9.12%
6 odd / 0 even: 177,100 combinations or 1.27%

And in the Canadian Lotto 649, with 2539 draws, the real values are all within 1.0% of the theorical values.

Data on other static filters to follow.

 

[GillesD]

Static filter #2

For the consecutive numbers, here are the theorical values for each possibility:

1-1-1-1-1-1: 7,059,052 combinations or 50.48%
2-1-1-1-1-0: 5,430,040 combinations or 38.83%
2-2-1-1-0-0: 814,506 combinations or 5.83%
2-2-2-0-0-0: 13,244 combinations or 0.09%
3-1-1-1-0-0: 543,004 combinations or 3.88%
3-2-1-0-0-0: 79,464 combinations or 0.57%
3-3-0-0-0-0: 946 combinations or 0.01%
4-1-1-0-0-0: 39,732 combinations or 0.28%
4-2-0-0-0-0: 1,892 combinations or 0.01%
5-1-0-0-0-0: 1,892 combinations or 0.01%
6-0-0-0-0-0: 44 combinations or 0.00%

The 1-1-1-1-1-1 mean non consecutive values, 2-2-2-0-0-0 means 2 consecutives values with 2 other consecutive values and 2 other consecutive values, and so on

And in the Canadian Lotto 649, with 2539 draws, the real values are all within 1,1% of the theorical values.

 

[GillesD]

Static filter #3

For the numbers within a decade, here are the theorical values for each possibility:

2-1-1-1-1: 1,980,000 combinations or 14.16%
2-2-1-1-0: 5,346,000 combinations or 38.23%
2-2-2-0-0: 801,900 combinations or 5.73%
3-1-1-1-0: 2,112,000 combinations or 15.10%
3-2-1-0-0: 2,851,200 combinations or 20.39%
3-3-0-0-0: 126,720 combinations or 0.91%
4-1-1-0-0: 554,400 combinations or 3.96%
4-2-0-0-0: 166,320 combinations or 1.19%
5-1-0-0-0: 44,352 combinations or 0.32%
6-0-0-0-0: 924 combinations or 0.01%

The 2-1-1-1-1 mean 2 numbers in a decade and 1 in each of the other 4, 5-1-0-0-0 means 5 numbers in a decade, 1 in another one and none in the other 3 and so on.

And in the Canadian Lotto 649, with 2539 draws, the real values are all within 1,0% of the theorical values, except one which is at -1.4%.

 

[GillesD]

Static filter #4

For the last digit of numbers, here are the theorical values for each possibility:

1-1-1-1-1-1: 2,887,500 combinations or 20.65%
2-1-1-1-1-0: 6,930,000 combinations or 49.56%
2-2-1-1-0-0: 2,772,000 combinations or 19.82%
2-2-2-0-0-0: 105,600 combinations or 0.76%
3-1-1-1-0-0: 924,000 combinations or 6.61%
3-2-1-0-0-0: 316,800 combinations or 2.27%
3-3-0-0-0-0: 003,960 combinations or 0.03%
4-1-1-0-0-0: 039,600 combinations or 0.28%
4-2-0-0-0-0: 003,960 combinations or 0.03%

The 1-1-1-1-1-1 means all different last digits, 4-2-0-0-0 means 4 numbers have the same last digit and the other 2 also have another similar last digit, and so on

And in the Canadian Lotto 649, with 2539 draws, the real values are all within 0.2% of the theorical values, except 2 that are respectively at +0.9% and -0.6%,

 

[black prince]

Hi GillesD

Originated from GillesD
Static filter #1
This might save you some time. Here is the theorical values for each odd/even ratios (from 0/6 to 6/0).

0 odd / 6 even: 134,596 combinations or 0.96%
1 odd / 5 even: 1,062,600 combinations or 7.60%
2 odd / 4 even: 3,187,800 combinations or 22.80%
3 odd / 3 even: 4,655,200 combinations or 33.29%
4 odd / 2 even: 3,491,400 combinations or 24.97%
5 odd / 1 even: 1,275,120 combinations or 9.12%
6 odd / 0 even: 177,100 combinations or 1.27%

And in the Canadian Lotto 649, with 2539 draws, the real values are all within 1.0% of the theorical values.

Data on other static filters to follow.
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Thanks. I already tested filters for all odd or all even, 3 or more prime numbers,
3 or more squared numbers, 3 or more ending digits, 3 or more consecutive numbers,
removing draws matching past winning numbers, delta distance, column
ranges, and more. Decades appears to be safe with 4 or more for draws with
5 numbers. If there are any other test you can recommend please do.
I wrote my own program separate from Winnalotto to apply these filters
automatically from the combinations saved using Winnalotto. So far, it's not
too destructive and not too porus (lets too much gets in). When the time
comes and Patrick create a function to load a file for filter settings in Winnalotto,
then I'm set.


-BP

 

[GillesD]

Static filter #5

For the combinations with square numbers, here are the theorical values for each possibility:

5,245,786 combinations with 0 square number or 37.52%
5,954,676 combinations with 1 square number or 42.59%
2,350,530 combinations with 2 square numbers or 16.81%
401,800 combinations with 3 square numbers or 2.87%
30135 combinations with 4 square numbers or 0.22%
882 combinations with 5 square numbers or 0.01%
007 combinations with 6 square numbers or 0.00%

 

[GillesD]

Static filter #6

For the combinations with prime numbers, here are the theorical values for each possibility:

1,344,904 combinations with 0 prime number or 9.62%
4,173,840 combinations with 1 prime number or 29.85%
4,869,480 combinations with 2 prime numbers or 34.82%
2,722,720 combinations with 3 prime numbers or 19.47%
765,765 combinations with 4 prime numbers or 5.48%
102,102 combinations with 5 prime numbers or 0.73%
5,005 combinations with 6 prime numbers or 0.04%

Out of the 5 filters mentioned up to now, this filter would be the one rejecting the most combinations.

And if you are looking for other static filters, you might consider:
- 3 or more Fibonacci numbers (4.70%)
- 3 or more Lucas numbers (4.70%)
- 3 or more numbers multiple of 5 (6.67%)

 

[black prince]

GillesD

And if you are looking for other static filters, you might consider:
- 3 or more Fibonacci numbers (4.70%)
- 3 or more Lucas numbers (4.70%)
- 3 or more numbers multiple of 5 (6.67%)

These I don't have and will investigate them immediately.

-BP

 

[GillesD]

Possible static filter data

For a 6/49 lottery, Fibonacci numbers are 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21 and 34 (each number being the sum of the 2 preceding one, starting with 1 and 2). For the combinations with Fibonacci numbers, here are the theorical values for each possibility:

4,496,388 combinations with 0 Fibonacci number or 32.16%
5,995,184 combinations with 1 Fibonacci number or 42.88%
2,835,560 combinations with 2 Fibonacci numbers or 20.28%
596,960 combinations with 3 Fibonacci numbers or 4.27%
57,400 combinations with 4 Fibonacci numbers or 0.41%
2,296 combinations with 5 Fibonacci numbers or 0.02%
28 combinations with 6 Fibonacci numbers or 0.00%

For a 6/49 lottery, Lucas numbers are 1, 3, 4, 7, 11, 18, 29 and 47 (each number being the sum of the 2 preceding one, starting with 1 and 3). For the combinations with Lucas numbers, here are the theorical values for each possibility:

4,496,388 combinations with 0 Lucas number or 32.16%
5,995,184 combinations with 1 Lucas number or 42.88%
2,835,560 combinations with 2 Lucas numbers or 20.28%
596,960 combinations with 3 Lucas numbers or 4.27%
57,400 combinations with 4 Lucas numbers or 0.41%
2,296 combinations with 5 Lucas numbers or 0.02%
28 combinations with 6 Lucas numbers or 0.00%

For the combinations with multiples of 5, here are the theorical values for each possibility:

3,838,380 combinations with 0 Lucas number or 27.45%
5,922,072 combinations with 1 Lucas number or 42.35%
3,290,040 combinations with 2 Lucas numbers or 23.53%
829,920 combinations with 3 Lucas numbers or 5.94%
98,280 combinations with 4 Lucas numbers or 0.70%
5,040 combinations with 5 Lucas numbers or 0.04%
84 combinations with 6 Lucas numbers or 0.00%

Generating filters is easy: select 6 numbers and find a pattern and there you have a new filter.

The winning combination of draw #670 for the Canadian Lotto 6/49 is a good example; many will say that the winning numbers (22, 27, 32, 37, 42 and 47) should never have come out since it follows the same pattern as the famous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 combination. A different starting number (22 instead of 1) and a different delta (5 instead of one) but the same pattern i.e. the 5 deltas are all equal. Working with deltas can generate a lot of static filters (different starting numbers, different patterns for deltas, etc.).

I would say that the 2 following combinations have the same pattern (but a little more difficult to see): 1-4-13-21-23-40 and 2-6-7-18-19-22

But in the long run, each and every one of the 13,983,816 combinations has exactly the same chance of coming out and will eventually. You can also expect a winning combination to repeat itself, soon I would say (well, soon is quite relative).

 

[Springbok]

Tumela Morena Patrick

* Omega21(41,42) * Hits: 132/500
------------------------
* Skips >>>>> 4
* Sorted Skips: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 8 8 9 10 17 ** Skip Median: 2


We go back to the original idea that numbers communicate to us if we ask them the right questions. What does Omega21 intend to do in the future. We will get no definite answer but probabilities. Its previous behaviour provides clues. All knowledge about number behaviour arises from betting on the bookies lottery whether as a 6/49 or 7/49 game. Betting on a number pair for a max of 4 draws cuts you some slack but demands rigour for if your number pair does not hit in 4 draws you are going to lose money.We bet to win money. Not only that but we intend to hit within 2 draws for greater profitability The normal lottery player expects to lose money. The bookie lottery players have to be winners before they even start which cannot be said for the normal lottery player.

Now we kick off by converting the real draws to the omega format. The stats report is produced by Mdied. Above you will see the report with the skips truncated to the current skip. I use a 500 draw history. Previous filters used a limited a scale of skips except the historical highs. Here we are looking at a more global aspect of skip behaviour which I believe is more accurate and judging from my hits on the bookies lottery much more successful than the previous filters.

We now ask what are the intentions of omega21 bearing in mind it must hit within the next 4 draws and to find out where in those 4 draws it intends to hit. The current ongoing skip is 4 so we count on 5,6,7,8. We expect a hit in one of those skips. In the previous 28 skip cycles hits within the required parameters have hit 25 times. This appears to be a good bet as we have an 89% probability. Notice that the tail at the end is short. Beware of long tails especially when they stretch far from the bell curve. Now where will it hit? if you look at the number of skip cycles from 5 to 6 you have 16 occurences. Look at skip cycles 7 and 8 you will have 9 occurences. So we have the likelihood of omega21 hitting in the next 2 draws.Had the skip cycles 7 and 8 occurred more frequently than 5 and 6 then a wise person would have waited one or 2 draws before betting.

This is the general idea of how we examine pairs. Supposing you had 5 or more Inbetweeners and did not know which one to pick then we would need to write the pairs in the filter box and then hit the pairs control. Of course the programme will have to be coded to do this. Initially the skip read out would have to contain the whole series of skips and arranged in sorted order so the person would scan the results and work out the strongest looking Intbetweener pair. A person will have to spend a week or three practising these techniques. You will be amazed how sharp you can get in picking likely pairs but throwing out the rubbish.

Incidently omega21 hit next draw-I checked out of interest.

 

[Springbok]

Hi again Patrick

You can now see why I tend to fall asleep on the bed with my laptop, notepad and pencil and calculator as I run through the 24 pairs of omega time and time again backtesting and plotting my next betting moves. It will take me many months to automate the process in a VB6 Windows program while I get my programming techniques up to scratch. There is also the issue of offsetting the last 2 or 3 draws which is highly successful. More of that another time.