Where are the DN WHEELS

Geenie

Member
I have not seen any large wheels designed with key numbers!
I've downloaded many large wheels from
various sites that are great.

If anyone can give me any ideas or
referrals please post.

I'm looking for wheels between 1000-
3000 lines. 2 and 3 DN's

:)

For 649 and the super 7
 
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Brad

Member
Don't know of a site that will provide that ... have a prog that will generate 6 or 7 # full wheels with Key #s (DNs) from 1 - 4.

Could try to post but it may be too many lines, can email files you need via LT.

- these examples are close to your requirements:

pick6> 2DN, 16NR, 1001 lines; 3DN, 23NR, 1140 lines
pick6> 2DN, 20NR, 3060 lines; 3DN, 30NR, 2925 lines

pick7> 2DN, 15NR, 1287 lines; 3DN, 17NR, 1001 lines
Pick7> 2DN, 17NR, 3003 lines; 3DN, 21NR, 3060 lines
 
Complete Designs

If you have MS Excel
I can produce an Excel SpreadSheet
to generate any such design
Reply if so and I'll post the link
for such a Spreadsheet

Nick
 

Geenie

Member
Brad and Nick

Thanks alot. Ultimately I would bring these into
Lottery Director so I can filter down to approx.
500 tickets. Yes I do have Excel! Post away.





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Brad

Member
go with Excel

No prob Geenie, looks like Excel is a better way to go for you, but if you decide later you need a simple text file let me know.
 
CompleteWheelDesigner v1.0 B1 is here

As I promised...

You can download from here:
<<< links to other forums and email addys are not allowed on this BB .. I have sent an email to you Nick .. LT >>>


I'll appreciate any recommendations or ideas


Nick
 
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Geenie

Member
Nick thanks for the link to your LottoDesigner but I cannot
get it to work properly.

Run-time errors on both my laptop and desktop. I'm using
Excel 2000. On one attempt I did generate v - 16, k - 7
but did not understand how to specify key numbers and to see
any stats for the wheel I generated -




:rolleyes:
 

Geenie

Member
Brad said:
Don't know of a site that will provide that ... have a prog that

- these examples are close to your requirements:

pick6> 2DN, 16NR, 1001 lines; 3DN, 23NR, 1140 lines
pick6> 2DN, 20NR, 3060 lines; 3DN, 30NR, 2925 lines

pick7> 2DN, 15NR, 1287 lines; 3DN, 17NR, 1001 lines
Pick7> 2DN, 17NR, 3003 lines; 3DN, 21NR, 3060 lines


Brad and LT:

These files would be perfect for me and others if made available.
Can you email to LT? I would like to get started on these for my
office pool.

Thanks

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Brad

Member
Geenie,

files are on their way, I added a few more 'inbetweeners' for pick 6... you'll see what I mean ... then I ran out of time to do the same for pick 7, can do those later if needed, let me know.

Pls check the last line of each file as there may be some 'extra' characters my prog sometimes puts in ... think I deleted all but won't hurt to double-check.

Cheers, hope you win big :agree:
 
to Geenie...

Questions!

Does the program run at all?

If not what kind of error it gives?

As of the "DN" numbers
since these numbers will appear on every ticket the program does not show them

You generate a design of K-DN
If you play a pick 6 lotto and you have 2 DN then you make
a complete design for a pick 4 + your 2 DN numbers

If you wish the program to insert these numbers it can be done also.

You can post your requiremnts.

Nick
 

Geenie

Member
Nick,

I open "CompleteWheelDesignerV1b1 in excel as usual and click to enable macros.

I receive "Run-time error '438':
Object doesn't support this property or method

I press end and carry on to inputs.

For Super 7 I want V - 16, K - 5 ( I will add my
DN's later in Lottery Director)

Generate Design - shows me my 4,368 combinations.

I cannot save design and also should I be seeing
more options?

Question #2

I have downloaded your LottoDesignerXL v.1.02 B 04 because I very interested in the constraints and wouldn't need wheel designer.( If I can figure it out)

Firstly, upon loading in excel - message "LDXL" has expired?

I used also example from your site:
V - 13
K - 6
T - 3
M - 6
B - 5
L - 1 ( Not sure what L is)

Optimized and ran too long with only 12 lines of
numbers. Stopped it.

Tried to save Results and received Run-time error '76' Path not found. Can you tell me what to do?

Select constraints - I want to add 7 lines of 16 numbers and put a minimum and maximum on each line generated along with history of entire draws, favourite numbers and DN's but I receive "It seems that you have an error in your Constraints"
ID - 1, Min - 2, Max 3, Rz left blank. NBs - 010203142311 Is this the correct format?
when I go to Optimize my combinations or save them.
What does Rz.. mean exactly?
Also B- how many tickets to optimize is only from 1 to 200.
Is there is a help file on your site explaining these terms?
Thanks again Nick.
 
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LT

Administrator
For Geenie and All

Brad had sent the DNwheels and they are now available in the free stuff area.
Thanks very much Brad for once again providing a great resource :agree2:
 
to Gennie

Error 438

I'll fix the error and I'll post
the sheet to this forum as per LT

That error has to do the way I designed
the "shapes" objects on the page.

The new file will be ready by Thu Mar 13

Nick
 
for LottoDesignerXL

Since there is some intersest on the
program I'll try to speed up it's completion
and I'll post also in this forum.
Be patient...
 

Beaker

Member
Re: for LottoDesignerXL

Nick Koutras said:
Since there is some intersest on the
program I'll try to speed up it's completion
and I'll post also in this forum.
Be patient...
Nick, thanks for your responses - looking forward to the finished product.

If there is one thing about lotto players, we are patient. Let us know when you're complete. :agree2:
 

Goswinus

Member
Maybe I'm missing the point entirely and maybe I should return to my box, but what do you mean by 1000-3000 lines?

When playing a 3DN system on 649, the base of your system should be a C(46,3,2,3) i.e. playing 46 numbers in a pick 3 system with a guarantee of 2 if 3 hit.

The whole point of having 3DN is that you assume that they will hit. You already have 3 numbers, so you need to play the remaining 46 numbers.
Since every line already has 3 DN's, you only need 3 more numbers on each line.
A full 46/3 system contains 15180 lines, which is a little too much, that's why we go for a guarantee of 2.
The hit is already 3 (if your DN's are picked correctly), so you only need 3 more.
So in fact, the C(46,3,2,3) is effectively transferred into a C(49,6,5,6) or, in other words, you'll have a 5 number hit IF your 3DN hit!

The C(46,3,2,3) can be done in 170 lines. Although I haven't got this wheel you should be able to do fine with CoverMaster to get an approx. 200 lines not-so-well-optimized equivalent.

A 2DN system is a little more expensive and does in fact enter the 1000+ regions. For a 6/49 2DN system, you should use C(47,4,3,4), which CAN be done in 1815 lines.

Super 7 is a little more expensive:
3DN: C(46,4,3,4): 1726 lines.

If you'll use the same strategy for a 2DN for Super 7, you'll find that it is too expensive: C(47,5,4,5) = 15205 lines.
A nice alternative is C(47,5,3,5) in 411 lines, given you a 5 (instead of a 6) number hit if your 2 DN's hit.

So, in the worst case scenario, you're looking at 1815 lines max, whereas the number of lines for 3DN in 649 or 2DN in Super7 are well below your target of 500 lines.
 

Goswinus

Member
Contrary to my earlier statement, CoverMaster is perfectly able to reproduce the C(46,3,2,3) wheel in 170 lines.
If anyone is interested, I'll post a copy of such a wheel in the Wheels section.
 
And if we go for just a little less numbers......
While were at it ....here's one that you can play with LTs best 20 ....
Many people have asked for such a wheel for a while now....You play LT's best and you add 3 from the current hottest sniper Hinters....Or you mix a few from the best players on this board...
20numbers+3 DNs =23 numbers
pick3
2/3 + 3 numbers as DN
31 combinations

15 19 20
03 07 19
08 14 18
02 10 20
08 09 17
09 11 14
04 06 20
02 03 15
05 08 11
01 04 13
11 16 18
05 17 18
03 06 10
04 07 15
02 03 04
10 13 15
01 06 15
04 10 19
11 12 17
01 03 20
08 12 16
09 12 18
02 06 07
02 03 13
05 12 14
05 09 16
07 13 20
14 16 17
01 07 10
06 13 19
01 02 19
It's a good one! Take it from the Bassboss!

:agree: :clown: :agree2:
 
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