When is a Number Due to Hit?

madam

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Icewynd: I just remembered what I wanted to ask. How difficult would it be for me to set up a due chart similar to yours for Lotto Max, a 7/49 game?
 

Icewynd

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madam said:
Icewynd: I just remembered what I wanted to ask. How difficult would it be for me to set up a due chart similar to yours for Lotto Max, a 7/49 game?

Hi Madam,

Since Lotto Max is a 7/49 game, it is just an issue of adjusting for the 7th drawn number.

I'm not sure how comfortable you are with Excel, but really all that is required is inserting an extra column to include all the Lotto Max draw results and then adjusting the formulas in the skips columns to include your new column.

So, on the tab "Skips Table with Bonus" you could add a new column between K and J for the 7th drawn number. Then you would need to add a column between S and T and copy the formula from S into the new column. Then, in column X (V on the current spreadsheet) you would have to adjust the formula to: =IF(COUNT($F1672:$L1672)=0,"",IF(COUNTIF($F1672:$M1672,X$15),0,X1671+1)). And the same for the sheet without bonus -- or just adjust the one that you will use. "Then the Skips Statistics with Bonus" sheet will have to be adjusted so that the formula in Column C starts at "X" and copy the formula across.

Hopefully that is clear.
 

madam

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Icewynd: The results were poor for ON49 for 8/31. Tried 23 #'s from the due chart and had a showing of 2 #'s and a bonus. Will try again for 9/4 with 22 #'s and illyas System #43. By the way I have reasoned out how you got that list of 10 #'s that I was asking for. Had to read Teufulj mail once again and then it came to me that the #1 was used as a reduction factor for each #. Tried to test it out for a few of the PM #'s with no results. Is the mirror # being used somehow? You seem to have had better results than I have. Will try to work on 7/49 Excel as you have shown me but it will take some time as I have to review whaat little I know of excel. Thanks for all the tips from you and Teufelj.
 
Icewynd said:
Larbec,

. So a skip of 7 might not tell you that much, but a "due value" (Average skip-current skip) of 0.2 tells you that the skip is very close to the average skip for the number. There is a clear trend for most of the numbers to hit when their "due value" is high, so this tool can help to eliminate some numbers.



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Hello friends:

I think you know the concept of Ion Saliu´s "parpaluck".It is the range of draws used.

I think the Big Stone in our way is what is the perfect parpaluck.

I worked some time ago with skips with little sucess,but the main problem-I think- is how many past draws we must to use for calculate the skips.In other words,which is the starting point for our calculations.

Thanks,and regards.

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Icewynd

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sangoma123 said:
I think you know the concept of Ion Saliu´s "parpaluck".It is the range of draws used.

I think the Big Stone in our way is what is the perfect parpaluck.

I worked some time ago with skips with little sucess,but the main problem-I think- is how many past draws we must to use for calculate the skips.In other words,which is the starting point for our calculations.
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In this case, the range of draws used is the entire history of the lottery in question (Ontario 49). I'm not sure that messing around with the range of draws to find different averages would be helpful. In my experience, any attempt to engineer a perfect fit to the data works much better for the past history to which it is fitted than it does for new data going forward.
 

madam

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Icewynd: tried your due method for 3 plays. Each resulted with 2 #'s and a bonus #. Must look at your charts and set the brain burners at a little higher temp.
 

madam

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Icewynd: have been reading and trying Teufellj program with pick 3. Have had the odd result with some disapponting results as in this Midday case of the winner being 228 and I had runddown 238. There is always another day. Will see Evening rundown will bring
 

Icewynd

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Pick 3 can be a very frustrating game!!!

Just to be clear, I posted the information about the 'due' calculation for jackpot games, specifically 6/49.

However, there is no reason why it couldn't be applied to Pick 3 or Pick 4. If I get some time I will look into it and post the info.

Best of luck, Madam.

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madam

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Icewynd: Have been trying your due chart with poor results. The most I came up with last Wed (10/16/13) was 43's and the B. Made a mistake in the use of a 4 of 6 wheel. Couldn't find alower prize wheel. This time I found one of Ilya's 4 of 5 wheel. Will let you know what happens. The same has been happening with teufellj's pick 3 strategy. But then all is not gold. Haven't stopped trying in both cases. :thumb:
 

Icewynd

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Hi Madam,

Sorry to hear that you have been having poor results with this method.

I have found that the most reliable group are the numbers with due values of 4 to 6.9. This group only misses about 5% of the time and most often you will get 2 or 3 of the numbers from this group -- and even 4 numbers about 12% of the time.

The next most reliable group has due values in the range of 1 to 3.9 -- this group misses 17% of the time and is most likely to have 1 or 2 of the numbers. Of course, these two groups also have most of the numbers, so you need to use other methods to eliminate some.

Numbers with a due value of 7 or higher hit less than 50% of the time and if the group hits it will usually only be one number.

I don't know how many numbers you wheel, but I would concentrate on the 4-6.9 group and see if you can eliminate any of them using other methods.

Hope your luck improves!

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madam

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Icewynd: I seemed to have lost your due and overdue chart by punching the wrong key. Could you give me the site to load your hard work back into existence again. Enjoy trying to beat the machines at OLG.:nopity:
 

madam

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Icewynd: Sorry to havve bothered you for due #'s chart. Fooled around osmewhat and brought it back. Will try your thoughts on #'s between 4 - 6.9. Will let you know.
 

Icewynd

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Glad to hear you've solved your problem, Madam. If you want to start fresh with the spreadsheet, the link is:

http://www.mediafire.com/?2b39s8bif3ne7sm

Good luck with the numbers!
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madam

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Icewynd: just to let you know tried your #s choice between 4<>6.9. I laid out as 1 4 22 25 42 43 &B20. Used Ilyas System 41 and won out with 12 3# wins. Expected more but I must have filtered out the bigger winners. At least I got my money back and a little more. Now if I can find your due # chart I'll try again. It seems that every time i use the charts and save the chart seem to hide.
 

serge

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Hi all,

I like the idea, and I was thinking of why not doing the same process but using the digits in the Lexicographic numbers of the history of the draws, the range will go from 0 to 9 per rank, only the first digit will be less depending on the game, instead of using the whole 49 numbers for a 6/46 or a 5/39 or 5/56 etc...
 

Icewynd

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serge said:
Hi all,

I like the idea, and I was thinking of why not doing the same process but using the digits in the Lexicographic numbers of the history of the draws, the range will go from 0 to 9 per rank, only the first digit will be less depending on the game, instead of using the whole 49 numbers for a 6/46 or a 5/39 or 5/56 etc...

That sounds interesting Serge, but I'm not sure I completely understand. Are you trying to see which Lex numbers (1st digit only) are due or not?

If it works it would certainly be a useful tool for narrowing down the combinations to play.

Let us know, if you do implement this idea, how it works out.

Good luck!
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