When is a Number Due to Hit?

[Icewynd]

Hi PAB,

I appreciate all the work you've put into this project!

My thinking on the "due" thing is a little different. Once a number hits, it is at its strongest and 14.28% of the numbers will hit immediately after they have hit the first time. 53.76% of the numbers hit by skip 4, which translates, on average, to a due value of +3.

So I would say "Due" has a value of +3 to minus 3.

"Seriously Overdue" I would reserve for, say, the 5% of numbers that make really long skip runs, say over skip 20 or about due value 13. The numbers in between due value -3 and -13 would, therefore fall into the "Overdue" group.

So, about 50% should hit when they are Not-Yet-Due, 30% should hit when they are Due and 15% will hit when Overdue, with the remaining 5% not showing until they are Seriously Overdue.

Hope that makes sense.

 

[PAB]

Hi Icewynd,

Did you have any luck updating the file to accomodate your new criteria???

If so, perhaps you could upload it so I can see exactly what criteria you are calculating these on please.
If not, perhaps you could list the exact scenarios and I will have a look at adapting the file accordingly for you.

Something like this just as an example...

Not Yet Due = +6 To +3.01
Due = +3 To -3
Overdue = -3.01 To -19.99
Seriously Overdue = -13 To -20

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.

 

[Icewynd]

Hi Icewynd,

Did you have any luck updating the file to accomodate your new criteria???

Haven't had a chance to get to it yet, end of month is a busy time around here. I should be able to get to it this weekend (long weekend here in the Great White North, yay!)

I can tell you this, due values are a great way to filter out numbers that won't hit. About 85% of drawn combinations have 5 or more numbers with a due value of greater than -3, i.e. Not-yet-Due or Due. All 7 numbers from the last draw fell into these groups (data includes Bonus).

I will do both bonus and no bonus when I update the spreadsheet.

 

[Icewynd]

Well, you'd all given up on me, hadn't you?

Sorry about the delay, but life gets busy and you put a project to one side and the next thing you know a whole month has slipped by!

Anyway, here is the modified file:

Due and Overdue Skips for ON49 V3.0

http://www.mediafire.com/?2b39s8bif3ne7sm

I have included data WITH and WITHOUT the Bonus number, see the appropriate tabs.

PAB, could you please check the summary tables on the "Drawn Numbers" tab? You will see by the highlights in Column "O" that the formula is counting 6 or 8 total numbers for certain draws. I'd appreciate it if you could have a peek at it.

 

[PAB]

Hi Icewynd,

PAB, could you please check the summary tables on the "Drawn Numbers" tab? You will see by the highlights in Column "O" that the formula is counting 6 or 8 total numbers for certain draws. I'd appreciate it if you could have a peek at it.

I have just downloaded the file and had a quick look at it.
I will need to look at it in more detail though to work out exactly what is happening and get my head round what you are doing and fully understand what you mean when you say the formula is counting 6 or 8 total numbers for certain draws..
Hopefully I will be able to do this over the next couple of days.

Regards,
PAB


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12:45, restate my assumptions.
(1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
(2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
(3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore, there are patterns, everywhere in nature.

 

[madam]

Icewynd: reading your thesis on#'s, I keep thinking that their is a resemblance of your work and something similar on a website called "lotto soup" Would you take a look and let me know.

 

[Icewynd]

Lotto Soup looks like a cool site. I see that they have position frequencies by first number which is something I spent some time calculating last year. Now I see I needn't have bothered!

Also like that they have listings of all the combinations by SUM, which is something that I had been wondering about. I must spend some serious time exploring all their offerings.

This is quite a valuable resource. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, Madam!

 

[madam]

Icewynd: glad to have been of a little help

 

[Icewynd]

I just noticed that over 40 people have downloaded the Excel file for Due Skips.

Is anyone using it? If so, how are you using it? Did you find it useful, or does it need some more work?

Please post and tell us about your experiences with this information.

Thanks!

 

[madam]

Icewynd: I started to think of trying your due # use in Lotto Max but couldn't grasp where the current skip value of 2 came from.
Madam

 

[Icewynd]

Madam,

Thanks for your reply.

The skips are calculated in the usual way, i.e. a count of un-hit games since the last hit.

If you are using the excel file on this thread, the skips are on the bottom tabs labeled "Skips Table with Bonus" and "Skips Table without Bonus". You can view whichever one you prefer. The current skip value is then entered into the formula "Average skip-current skip=due value".

Hope this answers your question.

 

[bloubul]

Hi Icewynd

Trust that I find you in good health.

Yes I agree with you, but just remember there are the “Info Pirates" who just look for any "INFO" to further their own progress in any way possible without returning anything in return. I think LT must change the BB form so that only members can access any new postings by having members to login. Visitors can still see that there are new posts but must not be allowed to access it. They must register first. Do you agree or not.
I have down load it myself and am still working through it before I change the data.

BlouBul

 

[Icewynd]

Hey, Bloubul!

Nice to hear from you. Yes I do a agree with your comments. This site is a great repository of accumulated knowledge on the lotto, but all of that is available to all, with no effort to participate required.

Glad to hear you found the information useful

 

[larbec]

Newbe here and from USA. I have been following the lotto now for a short few months and play the Texas Lotto 6/54 and Powerball from Time to time. In following the skips and over do ..... do yo normally get a hit (correct number) in the draws that you make? Also, would something like this benefit me with the games I play? Thank you so much in advance and interesting thread

 

[Icewynd]

Larbec,

Thanks for your interest, and welcome to the board.

This tool is really just another way of looking at skips, but expressed in relation to the average skip for that number. So a skip of 7 might not tell you that much, but a "due value" (Average skip-current skip) of 0.2 tells you that the skip is very close to the average skip for the number. There is a clear trend for most of the numbers to hit when their "due value" is high, so this tool can help to eliminate some numbers.

If you do excel, download the spreadsheet and see if it works for you. The spreadsheet is formatted for a 6/49 lottery, so you will have to do some modifications if your lottery is in another format.

 

[larbec]

Thanks Ice, I downloaded and studying it. Wow! What a lot of hard work went into this. Do you have another job LOL. Man, great work and thanks. I hope to able to contribute to this board within time I played the Two Step last night and got close again winning around $90.

 

[Icewynd]

Thanks Ice, I downloaded and studying it. Wow! What a lot of hard work went into this. Do you have another job LOL. Man, great work and thanks.

Thanks, Larbec. Much of the credit, however, is due to PAB, who did most of the work on the Excel spreadsheet.

I hope to able to contribute to this board within time

We are looking forward to it. However, there is no time lapse required for participation. You can start contributing your ideas right now!

I played the Two Step last night and got close again winning around $90.

Congrats on the win. You're playin' for free now!

 

[madam]

Icewynd: I recall that there ae 3 charts in GH's Lotto Strategy. If I remember, they would be charts 3, 4, and 5. They deal with skips etc. It has been some time since I looked at them but I recalled their similarity to what I saw in your Due charts.
Madam

 

[larbec]

Is GH software worth purchasing and learning? I don't mind putting the hours in to learning anything worth while so just wondering. Is hers the best so to speak? Why do you think it's worth or not worth it?

 

[madam]

Icewynd: Finally reasoned how to read your due chart and will try 23 #'s for ON49 this 8/31. Will notify you of the results. Using Illyas System 44 this time. Find his wheels of more fortune than any others that I have tried.