The ELIMINATOR

[fullhouse]

Treble delight

Okay I decided to have a little fun today. And put number 8 in a treble with France to beat Brazil 7/2 at the world cup & Nadal to beat Agassi 2/5 At Wimbledon. And it won. I had £5 on it so I made back about £180. I was happy. I don't often cross bet. But this time of year has all the big sporting events going on so I thought why not.

Now number 8 was one of the last 3 numbers left in Eliminator 35. So after 22 draws the final pair is 2,13 I hope Syscrash didn't try and hunt number 13 too much. As it was due a 30 plus streak. And has obliged. This is why I don't like chasing single numbers with the exception of a few supreme performers. 2,12,30. So I will begin covering numbers 2,13 tomorrow for a total of 4 bets. Keep you posted. Peace...

 

[shazdave5164]

Hi,been reading this thread with great intrest.
49's stratagy looks realy cool.
betfred online bookie does 49's.
I would be intrested in your greyhound/horses stratagy too.
Regards.
A Brit living in the usa.

 

[shazdave5164]

49's

Hi,been reading this thread with great intrest.
49's stratagy looks realy cool.
betfred online bookie does 49's.
I would be intrested in your greyhound/horses stratagy too.
Regards.
A Brit living in the usa.

 

[fullhouse]

Been there.

Hi,been reading this thread with great intrest.
49's stratagy looks realy cool.
betfred online bookie does 49's.
I would be intrested in your greyhound/horses stratagy too.
Regards.
A Brit living in the usa.

Hi Shazdave,

I lived in the U.S in Texas for a few years myself. Welcome to the board. Well you are the first person to really ask me about the greyhound strategy. It is based on covering favourites in the first 4 races of the day. After they have gone 4 days without winning. So for example, if the favourite hadn't won the first race for 4 days. On the 5th day, I would begin covering it for a max of 3 days. Because I am betting on the un-named favourite. I cannot control the final price it will finsih at. It could be anything from 7/2 to 2/5. If there are 3 or 4 joint favourites which occurs from time to time.

To bump up the return. I often combine the greyhounds with baseball and tennis bets to make trebles. So for example if the 11.11am (the second race of the morning) hadn't had a favourite win for 4 days. I might combine it with the favourite in a baseball match. And a favorite in a tennis match. I would also cover the outsider in the baseball match. To gaurantee that portion of the bet is a certainty. So below is an example of what I would do. And the typical odds involved.


ODDS 3.25 (GREYHOUND FAVOURITE)
ODDS 1.50 (BASEBALL FAVOURITE)
ODDS 1.66 (TENNIS FAVOURITE)

TOTAL POTENTIAL RETURN = 8 X STAKE.

Also to cover the outsider winning in the baseball game I would combime the greyhound favourite with the outsider as follows.

ODDS 3.25 (GREYHOUND FAVOURITE)
ODDS 2.50 (BASEBALL OUTSIDER)

TOTAL POTENTIAL RETURN = 8 X STAKE.

So in effect you would get the same return for either outcome in the baseball match. And because plenty of outsiders win in Baseball games. This is very worthwhile. The tennis portion of the treble is probably the safest part of the bet. But the odds on it alone are poor.

So that is basically it. Once the greyhound favourite wins. You are very likely to win the entire bet. Only the tennis bet can let you down. And 8 times out of 10 it will win. When the Baseball season ends. I adopt the basketball matches in their place. So that is the greyhound strategy. You can check previous greyhound results at ladbrokes. Remember you only cover a qualifier for a max of 3 days. Sometimes (like recently) a favourite won't win for 20 plus days in one of the first 4 races. But there will always be action in the other races. This is a very solid strategy. And worthwhile. The reason I turned to numbers betting. Was that the odds are fixed. But you can get some nice returns with the greyhound first 4 strategy.

I had a greyhound win at 3/1 (4 x stake) last year with a baseball outsider at 6/4 (2.5 x stake) for a combined return of 10 x stake. You can use a slight progression with this strategy to increase returns over 2 or 3 bets. Peace...

 

[shazdave5164]

49's

Hi,thanks for that info,much appriciated.

I've had my 1st bet on 49's tonight for 4 draws 2x a day.
I went back from todays date,5th July to 25th June 06 till i was left with 3 numbers.2.11.13..
Only had 25c on singles and doubles,$12 total stake.

Be lucky
Shazdave

 

[Springbok]

trebles beting

Hi Fullhouse
What organization here offers the opportunities for trebles betting like you do with greyhounds, tennis, baseball. I see Betfair offers but it is single bets on those sports. I would assume you would use the grehound type strategy on horses. I used to do that occasionally when I went to the local course in South Africa. When 3 non-favourites fail to win in row then bet on the next favourite. I remember having lunch at the course and some ladies in the table next to we were moaning after losing race after race and they asked me who would win the next race. I was aware that the favourite had not won the previous 3 races and told them to bet on the next race's favourite. Of course it came in and they bought me a beer.

 

[fullhouse]

Hi Fullhouse
What organization here offers the opportunities for trebles betting like you do with greyhounds, tennis, baseball. I see Betfair offers but it is single bets on those sports. I would assume you would use the grehound type strategy on horses. I used to do that occasionally when I went to the local course in South Africa. When 3 non-favourites fail to win in row then bet on the next favourite. I remember having lunch at the course and some ladies in the table next to we were moaning after losing race after race and they asked me who would win the next race. I was aware that the favourite had not won the previous 3 races and told them to bet on the next race's favourite. Of course it came in and they bought me a beer.

Hi Springbok,

You can do doubles, trebles and accumulators online at Ladbrokes or William Hill. I personally use ladbrokes. You are so right Springbok. Just as numbers have popular skip patterns such as 8--10. So to do favourites in Greyhound and horseracing. It is said that approx 33% of all races are won by the favourite. This is powerful info to know from the start.

I don't bet on horses at all. I don't like the irregular number of runners from race to race. In greyhound racing you always have 6 and there is something in this symetrical number. And the popular skip pattern between favourites winning is 3 days to 5 days. I ONLY focus on the first 4 races of the morning cards. So for example.

RACE 1 11.03AM
RACE 2 11.11AM
RACE 3 11.19AM
RACE 4 11.28AM

And in a typical month out of a possible 120 races 35-45 will be won by the favourite. In a freak month like May this year 50 or more will be won by the favourite. Again this would be very powerful knowledge in the hands of multi-millionaires. But lets keep hush about it. Lol!

 

[fullhouse]

Eliminator UPDATE!

Well I have been away for a few days. So haven't been keeping up to speed on the Strategies. It had to happen and it did. A number finally BROKE the 50 draw barrier. And that number was one of the normally most reliable. NUMBER 13.

I hope Syscrash didn't dicide to hunt it all the way. Lol! It actually took a long time this year for a number to break 50 draws. And teatime today it finally popped after a 55 draw vacation. As a result Eliminators 35 & 36 were losing ones. I didn't bet on Eliminator 36. As the final pair qualified too early DRAW 15 And were the same pair from Eliminator 35. Numbers 2 & 13. Number 2 also went on a new record streak of 35 draws. And split the pair in draw 25 of Eliminator 36. Eliminator 37 is a void. After number 13 & 48 popped together teatime today leaving number 14. So after 37 completed Eliminators here is how things stand.

WINS 23
LOSSES 08
VOIDS 06

Eliminator 38 is 10 draws old. And coming along. Peace:finger:

 

[syscrash]

No I didn't decided to hunt 13... but I bet on it today... because it was iligible with 14 at the northwind of the last isolator... so I won

 

[fullhouse]

Hey!

No I didn't decided to hunt 13... but I bet on it today... because it was iligible with 14 at the northwind of the last isolator... so I won

Hi Syscrash it has been a while since we spoke. I am gald you were on it in the ISOLATOR. Yes after two void lines. Line 11--17 split in draw 8 with number 13. I will update the ISOLATOR tonight. Peace...

 

[fullhouse]

Hey!

No I didn't decided to hunt 13... but I bet on it today... because it was iligible with 14 at the northwind of the last isolator... so I won

Hi Syscrash it has been a while since we spoke. I am gald you were on it in the ISOLATOR. Yes after two void lines. Line 11--17 split in draw 8 with number 13. I will update the ISOLATOR tonight. Peace...

 

[Apache]

Hello !

First sorry for my english !

Is somebody knowing where I can find ALL DRAWS (history, statistic) of 49s Lottery ( two draws per day) can telle me please ?
When is the date of first draw ?

I check the history from Blue Square but have some errors like duplicate draws - same numbers in two consecutive draws -, or the bonus ball is replaced ( in 14 draws ) with the symbol {}, and most important thing the draws without bonus ( 6 numbers ) are numeric many than the draws with bonus.

In exchange ( joke) I hope give a information. This lottery can be played with many options to bet365. (Great bookie).


I hope somebady respond me.


Good luck all !


Apache

 

[Springbok]

Hi Apache

I think you are the same person as Crocodile Apache posting on Saliu's new site. I read your techniques to see how effective they are with the bookmakers lottery. Very clever. Do they work? I will test them out including your money management equation. Don't aplologise for your English as what you write is understandable. You should post your article you wrote on this site. Blue Square is the only site I know where you can get the past results where you can cut and paste into your file. It is not always accurate. You can check using the Win on Numbers site but you cannot cut or paste.

 

[Springbok]

http://lotterygambling.phpbbnow.com/viewtopic.php?t=41

For readers here, the above link will take you to Apache's article on the Bookmaker's lottery.

 

[Apache]

Thank you for replay Springbok (Zulu).
Yes I'm same person.
I began this strategy (bookmakers lottery) latterly so I don't now if work,
but I have cofidence in skips, FFG, and streak. (Saliu's concept)

I now Win on Numbers site, but the draws are only for 2000 - 2006, and I
find in December 2000, or, 2001, 14 draws missing.

If you or somebody else know one site with ALL (complete draws) even
if I don't can have cut and paste options please post.

You can try this strategy with small stake (0,20 $) to bet365. Is a bookie
rated A +, so you can have confidence.

P.S. Whay the threads with eliminator, and isolator has stoped ?


P.S. Is somebody in this forum wich can build a eccel sheet with my sistem ?

Good luck all ! BAFTA !

Apache !

 

[hazelnut]

setting the limit

I've just arrived at this site and I am intrigued with the whole concept of actually making a profit on the lotto. Up to now I have been experimenting with wheels, keno nos., etc. and I was about to give it up as a lost cause when I came across your eliminator strategy. I am wading thro past exchanges between all you geniuses at the moment and I would not presume to contribute anything yet until I digest all the info supplied. However one thing bothers me - At the start Fullhouse suggests setting a limit of 24 draws to his system and if the nos have not been drawn. you start a new eliminator. Yet I detect a certain flexibility in this rule ie ther is mention of going as far as 30 if nos have not hit - am I missing somethng?

 

[Springbok]

hello Hazelnut

Nice to see someone taking an interest in Fullhouse's methods. They actually work if you use sound money management methods(this is totally critical). I strongly advise you to use the Isolator(revised) method. Read through the posts in that thread. There us a huge amount of information there. Also read the money management thread. The way to learn the method is to back test it. You can download past results from Blue Square of the 49s lottery including the bonus ball. The grid to use is the first one given by Fullhouse. Remember with this method you only bet for the next 4 draws to control risk. If you bet for more than 4 draws you are doomed.

 

[blitzed]

you only bet for the next 4 draws to control risk. If you bet for more than 4 draws you are doomed.

Hi Springbok,

yup, sometimes best to simply walk away, rather than continue down the same path chasin the dragon!

blitzed

 

[hazelnut]

Nice to see someone taking an interest in Fullhouse's methods. They actually work if you use sound money management methods(this is totally critical). I strongly advise you to use the Isolator(revised) method. Read through the posts in that thread. There us a huge amount of information there. Also read the money management thread. The way to learn the method is to back test it. You can download past results from Blue Square of the 49s lottery including the bonus ball. The grid to use is the first one given by Fullhouse. Remember with this method you only bet for the next 4 draws to control risk. If you bet for more than 4 draws you are doomed.

Thank you Springbok - like I said I've just arrived and still have a lot to learn.
Will do as suggested and when digested will return (hopefully a little richer!)
Blessings.

 

[hazelnut]

Hi Fullhouse,Springbok and all,

I am the most recent greenhorn to join the group, so this question may be stupid - what is the Side by Side srategy ?

Blessings