The ELIMINATOR

Teufellj

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RE: Fullhouse....

Thank you for the information that you have supplied, it will fit into this project somewhere. Using the "Eliminator" and "SidebySide" data, I shoehorned a pair of programs to be tried on the Pick 4 games. These setups weren't expected to do much at the onset but by golly they did. I cheated a bit and ran...mirrored counters at cutoff of ...14 sets with a max of 25. There are possibilities as in the 49 game but the pick 4 has habits in the pattern zones to watch for and they contribute to a strong lead in. Anyway, my strategy was for...7351 on the Midday Game and for...9278 on the Evening game. Shortly before this post I got the midday results and couldn't believe it...5371; just a bit ago I keyed the Evening results...8729!
Thanks much folks, I have to go to my desktop now and find out why they hit or at least get some silly speculations for answers.

Teufellj ...
:wavey:
 

fullhouse

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Okay after a long 4 draw wait. Eliminator 16 is down to its final pair. Numbers (08) & (43) Now this slow down of pace illustrates perfectly that what you think will happen often doesn't with this strategy.

When you consider there were only 7 numbers left after 10 draws. And we've only just reached 2 numbers after 22 draws. It has taken 12 draws to wipe out 5 numbers. Now in Eliminator 17 there are 11 numbers remaining after 12 draws. So at first glance, it would appear that this will be another late qualifier in the twenties. But it could still qualify inside 20 draws.

So yesterday, number 37 racked up, I had a small stake on it. And had it in 2 doubles. Syscrash was correct with his analysis that it was unlikely that (08)(37) or (37)(43) would occur. Now that we have number (08) & (43). I will be favouring number 43 slightly with a 100/80 split. Because it is also in the side by side Strategy. I will keep you updated peace...
 

fullhouse

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It seems like I am talking to myself on this thread these days. Lol!

Well it came as no surprise to me today that the Eliminator suffered its third loss of the year so far. We are now 13 wins against 3 losses for 2006.

Whenever two numbers go on 30 plus losing streaks at the same time the Eliminator will LOSE. I think it is likely either number (08) or (43) will rack up tommorow. And number 43 could yet play a second role in the Side by Side strategy if number 42 makes it to 16 draws.

So now we turn our attention to Eliminator 17 which is now at 16 draws with 6 numbers remaining. And could well qualify tommorow. And will almost certainly be a winning Eliminator. I will keep you posted. BTW, any one know what happened to Syscrash ? I am missing my French Canadian buddy. Peace...
 
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fullhouse

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syscrash said:
it's always a pleasure to read your post Fullhouse...

Regards

Hey Syscrash,

How are you man, you've been a bit quite the last few days. How has your betting been going?

Did you cover any of the Side by Side pairs like 43--44 ? Peace...
 

endbox

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Hi fullhouse

I agree with syscrash , your posts are ALWAYS a pleasure to read & long may it continue !.............PS sorry to ask but how is the ISOLATOR coming along ? (Curiosity is killing me) take care endbox
 

fullhouse

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Re: Hi fullhouse

endbox said:
I agree with syscrash , your posts are ALWAYS a pleasure to read & long may it continue !.............PS sorry to ask but how is the ISOLATOR coming along ? (Curiosity is killing me) take care endbox

Hi Endbox.

Thankyou for your appreciation. I am just happy that I have been able to share my ideas with you guys. And you are benefitting from them.

The Isolator is coming along very well. Not wanting to give it all away yet. But just to set your imagination racing. The Isolator is only concerned about 35 numbers out of the 49 (hence the name)

Plus we are chasing one number at a time. So the odds are a genuine 5/1, It is too soon to say that it is on par or better than the other two. But if it continues as it has been performing. Then it will have a higher strike rate and better return for your stake. So we will see. It is hard to have sure confidence at this time Endbox. Because it is up against 2 strategies that have been working for years. I will have to back test it over a 2 year period to know if it is really as good as I think it is. But that is gonna take technophobe here some time.

As you may be aware Endbox. I might have some good strategies, but I am useless at computer tech and programs.

Anyway, today Eliminator 16 officially ended two draws late for me. With number 43 racking up at teatime. After a 35 draw vacation.

And Eliminator (17) is on the brink of qualification. With 4 numbers remaining after 18 draws. So we will see tommorow. Peace...
 
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syscrash

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Correct me If I'm wrong but Eleminator 17 is now ready?

with (8)(25)(40).

I think that the number that has more chance to come out tomorow is 40 if you looking for consistency.

25 and 8 has pretty hawfull consistency.

I don't know Fullhouse, but did you already lived a double loosing strike Eleminator?
 

fullhouse

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syscrash said:
Correct me If I'm wrong but Eleminator 17 is now ready?

with (8)(25)(40).

I think that the number that has more chance to come out tomorow is 40 if you looking for consistency.

25 and 8 has pretty hawfull consistency.

I don't know Fullhouse, but did you already lived a double loosing strike Eleminator?

Hi Syscrash, no we are only covering stage 2 of the Eliminator now. The last Eliminator was the first losing one after 5 wins in a row. I agree, 40 looks the number of choice to go with over the next few draws.

Number (08) is fast moving up the ranks to challenge for the longest losing streak of 2006 so far. It is now 36 draws no show. Number 46 is still the longest in 2006 with 40 draws. But we will see. So many long streaks come home from vacation between draws 35-40

We haven't had one on a world cruise yet. 50 draws plus, but the year is still young. So bring on tommorow. I was going to ask you, are you doing the pilgrimage theory on number 43??

And will you do it on number 8 when it eventually pops??. Peace...
 
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syscrash

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fullhouse said:
Hi Sycrash, no we are only covering stage 2 of the Eliminator now. The last Eliminator was the first losing one after 5 wins in a row. I agree, 40 looks the number of choice to go with over the next few draws.

Number (08) is fast moving up the ranks to challenge for the longest losing streak of 2006 so far. It is now 36 draws no show. Number 46 is still the longest in 2006 with 40 draws. But we will see. So many long streaks come home from vacation between draws 35-40

We haven't had one on a world cruise yet. 50 draws plus, but the year is still young. So bring on tommorow. Peace...

Hi Fullhouse,

If I understand, you will cover when there's only 2 number left?

Also, did you see already see two loosing eleminator in a row? sorry if I didn't understood you first answer
 

fullhouse

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syscrash said:
Hi Fullhouse,

If I understand, you will cover when there's only 2 number left?

Also, did you see already see two loosing eleminator in a row? sorry if I didn't understood you first answer

Yes there were two in a row in 2004. I can't remember exactly when because I lost my records. But it doesn't happen often Syscrash. Because it is uncommon to get two numbers go 30 draws at the same time twice in a row. Which is causes an Eliminator to lose. Peace...
 

syscrash

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you also mention something that got my attention,

What about number that has a 50 losing streak?

with my short experience to follow the number behavior, I never saw a number that pass that barrier.

Does it happen often? How many time a year?
 

fullhouse

Member
syscrash said:
you also mention something that got my attention,

What about number that has a 50 losing streak?

with my short experience to follow the number behavior, I never saw a number that pass that barrier.

Does it happen often? How many time a year?

Yes it will happen usually 3-4 times a year. Last year numbers 49, 07 & another one I can't remember broke 50 draws with 52 draws and 58 draws. With your program Syscrash maybe you can find the other numbers. Peace...
 

Springbok

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Hi Fullhouse-an idea

I am experimenting with 4 eliminators running at the same time. I produced 1000 combinations of the 7/49 lottery. The top layer contains 100 actual draws of the 49s game. Every 200 combinations I slice off 20 combinations to produce an eliminator. My eliminators start after 20 draws and numbers are crossed off as future real draws occur.
Here are examples of the 4 eliminators and the remaining numbers which have not dropped in.

Eliminator 1: 8 25 28 49
Eliminator 2: 8 39
Eliminator 3: 30 41
Eliminator 4: 5 13 28

When it comes to betting, Eliminators 2 and 3 offer the best opportunities for the Sunday lunchtime draw.
Now there is no reason why simulated(fake) drawings cannot be used as all the 20 combination layers obey the same statistical rules. On a trial paper run 2 weeks ago I produced 14 eliminators that week and 13 would have have made profits. Of course this could have been a freak set of results. I will retest again this week.
 

fullhouse

Member
Re: Hi Fullhouse-an idea

Springbok said:
I am experimenting with 4 eliminators running at the same time. I produced 1000 combinations of the 7/49 lottery. The top layer contains 100 actual draws of the 49s game. Every 200 combinations I slice off 20 combinations to produce an eliminator. My eliminators start after 20 draws and numbers are crossed off as future real draws occur.
Here are examples of the 4 eliminators and the remaining numbers which have not dropped in.

Eliminator 1: 8 25 28 49
Eliminator 2: 8 39
Eliminator 3: 30 41
Eliminator 4: 5 13 28

When it comes to betting, Eliminators 2 and 3 offer the best opportunities for the Sunday lunchtime draw.
Now there is no reason why simulated(fake) drawings cannot be used as all the 20 combination layers obey the same statistical rules. On a trial paper run 2 weeks ago I produced 14 eliminators that week and 13 would have have made profits. Of course this could have been a freak set of results. I will retest again this week.

Great stuff Springbok,

Today Eliminator 17 finished, with a double. The last 3 remaining numbers were (08) (25) (40) And 25 and 40 were drawn in the lunchtime draw. I wasn't on them since I only cover the last 2 numbers now. So in a sense this Eliminator is VOID. Not to worry, Eliminator 18 is down to 4 numbers after 16 draws. So may well qualify in the next 2 or 3 draws.

Now I think Syscrash may get to see a number on a world cruise this coming week. Number (08) has gone seriously AWOL And I am not talking Van Damme here, laughs. It is now the longest losing streak of 2006 so far. Going to a massive 42 draws no show. We are due a monster streak, and number 8 looks to be it. So if it breaks 45 draws and even 50! I won't be surprised. I will keep you updated. Peace..
 

syscrash

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Re: Re: Hi Fullhouse-an idea

fullhouse said:
Now I think Syscrash may get to see a number on a world cruise this coming week. Number (08) has gone seriously AWOL And I am not talking Van Damme here, laughs. It is now the longest losing streak of 2006 so far.

What do you mean by that?

Concerning the eleminator (18) there's 4 number left

(4) (8) (28)(48)

Fullhouse, you did mention something about odd and even number... what do you think about the 4 numbers left?

Fullhouse I've got a question for you. The eleminator (18) started march 26 and and eleminator (19) march 31... does the eleminator (20) started the 1 april?



Thanks...
 

fullhouse

Member
Re: Re: Re: Hi Fullhouse-an idea

syscrash said:
What do you mean by that?

Concerning the eleminator (18) there's 4 number left

(4) (8) (28)(48)

Fullhouse, you did mention something about odd and even number... what do you think about the 4 numbers left?

Fullhouse I've got a question for you. The eleminator (18) started march 26 and and eleminator (19) march 31... does the eleminator (20) started the 1 april?



Thanks...

Hi Syscrash,

There are 6 Eliminators each month. So Eliminator 18 was the last one for March it started on the 26th of March. And as you know today a FREAK occurance. Saw ((((3)))) OF THE LAST 4 NUMBERS POP! This will happen every now and then and last happenned in October last year. So both Eliminator 17 & 18 have been a wash out for us who now only pursue the final 2 numbers.

So Now Eliminator 19 which started on April the 1st has 12 numbers remaining after 8 draws. Lets hope we will get things back on track with this one GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!

This is the reason it pays to have two or 3 strong strategies working along side eachother. When one goes off the boil, the others usually shine. Like the Side by Side strategy has been doing lately.

Now my question to you Syscrash is, as number 8 FINALLY popped today as the VITAL bonus ball. WILL you be using the pilgrimage strategy on it After 44 draws ???

I might have a go myself. Peace..
 

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