Sangoma-number divination
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Hi, Shannc1:
Thanks for your nice suggestion! My all historical lines loaded from GH's program and her format is as below:
GAME# DATE DAY LOTTO NUMBERS ODD EVEN SUM
2846 11/05/07 Mon
02-06-14-17-23-24-35-39-41-44-47-57-58-63-66-67-70-71-77-80 11 9 901
So, for importing into WinnaLotto, I edited those according to Patrick's Manual:"The latest drawing are at the top of the file and are either space or comma separated" and I kept her LOTTO NUMBERS only and selected to use the space.
I think maybe we need to wait for Patrick, the author of WinnaLotto, hear his opinion about all problems in the use.
Happy Holidays,
lottowine
Thanks for your nice suggestion! My all historical lines loaded from GH's program and her format is as below:
GAME# DATE DAY LOTTO NUMBERS ODD EVEN SUM
2846 11/05/07 Mon
02-06-14-17-23-24-35-39-41-44-47-57-58-63-66-67-70-71-77-80 11 9 901
So, for importing into WinnaLotto, I edited those according to Patrick's Manual:"The latest drawing are at the top of the file and are either space or comma separated" and I kept her LOTTO NUMBERS only and selected to use the space.
I think maybe we need to wait for Patrick, the author of WinnaLotto, hear his opinion about all problems in the use.
Happy Holidays,
lottowine
Hi,lottowine
I quess you will have to wait for Patrick . I went and checked my set up and it has loaded properly. When I checked last drawn Sort a to z all 20 of the last drawn appeared on top of list .
If there is a glitch in there somewhere,but I just found a way to work around it. So my data is correct,for filtering.
Good luck, Shannc1
I quess you will have to wait for Patrick . I went and checked my set up and it has loaded properly. When I checked last drawn Sort a to z all 20 of the last drawn appeared on top of list .
If there is a glitch in there somewhere,but I just found a way to work around it. So my data is correct,for filtering.
Good luck, Shannc1
Hi Struxo
Glad to see you find the U-Boat filter useful. I must say it is pretty good. I had read long time ago about Saliu's comments on or below the median but it did not penetrate my thick head for a long time until yesterday. Then it was very easy to write in the code for the new filter and run a couple of tests. Winnalotto is a superb research tool for checking ideas.
The problem with the Winnalotto SE filters are threefold. Firstly they spray out the pairs that hit in the next 4 draws. This is great for betting pairs in 4 draws. Secondly they are not always accurate. The skipsitters should theoretically the most accurate but you cannot totally trust them. Thirdly it is difficult to harmonise them so all the forecasted pairs hit together in the next draw. This is absolutely critical if we are to hit the jackpot or get halfway there.
The people who want to use the programme for keno will have to wait for Patrick to make adjustments. Later I will throw out some ideas which people may find useful in trying to harmonise the filters. Getting 2 pairs in the next draw is not too difficult.
Glad to see you find the U-Boat filter useful. I must say it is pretty good. I had read long time ago about Saliu's comments on or below the median but it did not penetrate my thick head for a long time until yesterday. Then it was very easy to write in the code for the new filter and run a couple of tests. Winnalotto is a superb research tool for checking ideas.
The problem with the Winnalotto SE filters are threefold. Firstly they spray out the pairs that hit in the next 4 draws. This is great for betting pairs in 4 draws. Secondly they are not always accurate. The skipsitters should theoretically the most accurate but you cannot totally trust them. Thirdly it is difficult to harmonise them so all the forecasted pairs hit together in the next draw. This is absolutely critical if we are to hit the jackpot or get halfway there.
The people who want to use the programme for keno will have to wait for Patrick to make adjustments. Later I will throw out some ideas which people may find useful in trying to harmonise the filters. Getting 2 pairs in the next draw is not too difficult.
Hi Struxo
I think the number closest to the the 25th skip would be the best. But I don't play the eliminator as I prefer the isolator. I think the historical high pairs in the Winnalotto SE are as accurate or more accurate than the pairs produced in the isolator grids. I would trust the Winnalotto highs more than the isolator pairs in the long run.
struxo said:
I think the number closest to the the 25th skip would be the best. But I don't play the eliminator as I prefer the isolator. I think the historical high pairs in the Winnalotto SE are as accurate or more accurate than the pairs produced in the isolator grids. I would trust the Winnalotto highs more than the isolator pairs in the long run.
hi Springbok
We have lotto 7/35 here in Sweden. It's easy to notice that many times there's 1 or 2 repeats from previous draw. I trying to find out which numbers are gonna be repeat. Thanx to WinnaLotto
i think i found something interesting :
I take 7 numbers from previous draw and checking Skip 2.
If Skip2 is zero i don't play that number.
I found only few times that didn't worked, but i made not too much tests so far.
But it looks promising. I'm still left with 4-6 numbers but even a small step is a step.
Also if some other numbers have skip2 = 0 i don't play it.
I'll try with more tests to see if something is here.
We have lotto 7/35 here in Sweden. It's easy to notice that many times there's 1 or 2 repeats from previous draw. I trying to find out which numbers are gonna be repeat. Thanx to WinnaLotto
i think i found something interesting :I take 7 numbers from previous draw and checking Skip 2.
If Skip2 is zero i don't play that number.
I found only few times that didn't worked, but i made not too much tests so far.
But it looks promising. I'm still left with 4-6 numbers but even a small step is a step.
Also if some other numbers have skip2 = 0 i don't play it.
I'll try with more tests to see if something is here.
Some results from tests:
i made filter
#21 = 0
so i get only numbers with Skip2 = 0, then i loaded my trips filters. I get only trips with Skip2 = 0. Then i noticed interesting thing. Trips with highest value in column N+x>= H didn't come in next draw. Sometimes come one number but i think so far that is good way to see which numbers to not play in next draw.
Btw, i get small win tonight, 4 numbers in lotto
. I played 4 lines and get 3 in one line and 4 in another.
i made filter
#21 = 0
so i get only numbers with Skip2 = 0, then i loaded my trips filters. I get only trips with Skip2 = 0. Then i noticed interesting thing. Trips with highest value in column N+x>= H didn't come in next draw. Sometimes come one number but i think so far that is good way to see which numbers to not play in next draw.
Btw, i get small win tonight, 4 numbers in lotto
. I played 4 lines and get 3 in one line and 4 in another.Hi All
Interesting as always.
I found all five in the Tball, but each on a different line, this is progress, of a sort....assuming I can find five correct in 20 twice a week, how long will it take, statistically, for me to get all five on the same line and win (aka monkey writing a Shakespearian play!)??
Interesting as always.
I found all five in the Tball, but each on a different line, this is progress, of a sort....assuming I can find five correct in 20 twice a week, how long will it take, statistically, for me to get all five on the same line and win (aka monkey writing a Shakespearian play!)??
Hi Springbok
I have been trying out and extending the Uboat, and it is excellent. Oddly, I have been getting better test results using the history, rather than sim files with the last four draws on top............I may try various history draws on top to see if it improves.
I think Patrick must be a few miles from an internet link. I remember working with some Japanese businessmen in Borneo about ten years ago, and they all each had a laptop with internet phones which they used on the beaches (where we were working) to get their daily instructions from Tokyo! Personally, I waited until I got back to the hotel at the end of the day to report what had been done, that way the work didn't get interrupted by incessant "what's happening?" calls from 9k miles away.....
I have been trying out and extending the Uboat, and it is excellent. Oddly, I have been getting better test results using the history, rather than sim files with the last four draws on top............I may try various history draws on top to see if it improves.
I think Patrick must be a few miles from an internet link. I remember working with some Japanese businessmen in Borneo about ten years ago, and they all each had a laptop with internet phones which they used on the beaches (where we were working) to get their daily instructions from Tokyo! Personally, I waited until I got back to the hotel at the end of the day to report what had been done, that way the work didn't get interrupted by incessant "what's happening?" calls from 9k miles away.....
Hello Barge
I am sure Patrick is having problems with his internet connections. Maybe an electric storm has blown his modem or computer or he is in the middle of the Kalahari desert
I am live testing the highs with real money on a continuous basis. Last week on Monday I kicked off. I started with a £10 fighting fund. At no stage in the last week did I risk more than £4 on a 4 draw series. At the moment my fund is £18. Most of the hits have been within 2 or 3 draws. What I do is I pick the high for the 6/49 game and a high for the 7/49 game. I wait till one of them hits and then bet on the other. I expect the fund to go to £30 by Monday next week. In other word a possible risk of £4 has produced £8. No financial institution can offer this rate of return. I bet Bill Gates did not make money this fast. Ok you wont get rich quick with this method but you generate profits. I generally start betting at 10p per number or 20p a pair. So the actual results are much better than they first appear. Once the fund hits £100 I will ramp up the betting levels kicking off at £2 a pair.
I avoid the sim pairs and stick to the real draws. I will look at the Uboat filter by putting a few real draws on top of the sim file.
Interestingly enough during testing around the 482 mark a total failure of the historical high. It failed to hit within 4 draws but even failed to hit in the next 8 draws after that-this was in the 7//49 game. A freak occurrence but it happened. This got me thinking that if you encountered a failure in two innings then stop betting on that game(7/49) for 3 days and then restart as the period of turbulence should have passed by. Most of the time the highs of the game are in a steady state-that is hitting within 4 draws but freak occurrences can happen from time to time like monster waves in a sea storm.So one must be prepared for this but it probably occurs once every few hundred draws.
I am sure Patrick is having problems with his internet connections. Maybe an electric storm has blown his modem or computer or he is in the middle of the Kalahari desert
I am live testing the highs with real money on a continuous basis. Last week on Monday I kicked off. I started with a £10 fighting fund. At no stage in the last week did I risk more than £4 on a 4 draw series. At the moment my fund is £18. Most of the hits have been within 2 or 3 draws. What I do is I pick the high for the 6/49 game and a high for the 7/49 game. I wait till one of them hits and then bet on the other. I expect the fund to go to £30 by Monday next week. In other word a possible risk of £4 has produced £8. No financial institution can offer this rate of return. I bet Bill Gates did not make money this fast. Ok you wont get rich quick with this method but you generate profits. I generally start betting at 10p per number or 20p a pair. So the actual results are much better than they first appear. Once the fund hits £100 I will ramp up the betting levels kicking off at £2 a pair.
I avoid the sim pairs and stick to the real draws. I will look at the Uboat filter by putting a few real draws on top of the sim file.
Interestingly enough during testing around the 482 mark a total failure of the historical high. It failed to hit within 4 draws but even failed to hit in the next 8 draws after that-this was in the 7//49 game. A freak occurrence but it happened. This got me thinking that if you encountered a failure in two innings then stop betting on that game(7/49) for 3 days and then restart as the period of turbulence should have passed by. Most of the time the highs of the game are in a steady state-that is hitting within 4 draws but freak occurrences can happen from time to time like monster waves in a sea storm.So one must be prepared for this but it probably occurs once every few hundred draws.
Hi Endbox
Here is an example of running a backtest on the 6/49 game. History file updated to Tuesday teatime. You should get the same result. Bonus ball excluded. Results checked on the 6/49 draw but betting is done on the 7/49 game for extra security.
I start 28 draws back giving a test period of 2 weeks.
Line no..........pairs.......where hit........win/lose
28.................32,47......4..................win
24.................45,47......3..................win
20...........here we have 3 candidates with a skip of 18-{5,49}, {37,49},{5,37}
We wait until 2 are knocked out. At line 16 two are knocked out leaving {5,37}. It hit line 14. We win
13...............5,46..........If you bet with the 6/49 file you lose but if you bet with 7/49 file you win.
8.................5,17............4................win
4..................17,25.........fail..............lose
At the moment 17,25 is the candidate 2nd time round. Should hit soon, hopefully Wednesday. It better I got money on it.
Not a particularly exciting test period as there was a delay waiting for those 2 pairs to be knocked out. You could if you wanted also be betting on the 7,49 game to increase the action. They normally have different pairs. If you wanted even more action you could be using the old Northwind, Southwind etc grids. They give pairs with a totally different skip level. So there could be lots of action if you can take the pace.
There could be so much action it would put Las Vegas to shame.
Here is an example of running a backtest on the 6/49 game. History file updated to Tuesday teatime. You should get the same result. Bonus ball excluded. Results checked on the 6/49 draw but betting is done on the 7/49 game for extra security.
I start 28 draws back giving a test period of 2 weeks.
Line no..........pairs.......where hit........win/lose
28.................32,47......4..................win
24.................45,47......3..................win
20...........here we have 3 candidates with a skip of 18-{5,49}, {37,49},{5,37}
We wait until 2 are knocked out. At line 16 two are knocked out leaving {5,37}. It hit line 14. We win
13...............5,46..........If you bet with the 6/49 file you lose but if you bet with 7/49 file you win.
8.................5,17............4................win
4..................17,25.........fail..............lose
At the moment 17,25 is the candidate 2nd time round. Should hit soon, hopefully Wednesday. It better I got money on it.
Not a particularly exciting test period as there was a delay waiting for those 2 pairs to be knocked out. You could if you wanted also be betting on the 7,49 game to increase the action. They normally have different pairs. If you wanted even more action you could be using the old Northwind, Southwind etc grids. They give pairs with a totally different skip level. So there could be lots of action if you can take the pace.
There could be so much action it would put Las Vegas to shame.
Hi Endbox
Here is a backtest for the 7/49 game. Same timespan as for the 6/49 game. Different results because the sequences are different. In this period it would have been more profitable to play the 7/49 game. This type of result may not be the same for the next 28 draws.
line.............. pair......................where hit
28...........32,37...........................1
27............3,47...........................1
26............37,47.........................Fail
22............37, 47........................1
21............19,37.........................2
19............37,49.........................4
15.............5,37.........................2
13.............5,46.........................2
11.............5,23.........................4
7..............23,25........................1
6..............25,36.........................4
2..............25,47........................ongoing
Here is a backtest for the 7/49 game. Same timespan as for the 6/49 game. Different results because the sequences are different. In this period it would have been more profitable to play the 7/49 game. This type of result may not be the same for the next 28 draws.
line.............. pair......................where hit
28...........32,37...........................1
27............3,47...........................1
26............37,47.........................Fail
22............37, 47........................1
21............19,37.........................2
19............37,49.........................4
15.............5,37.........................2
13.............5,46.........................2
11.............5,23.........................4
7..............23,25........................1
6..............25,36.........................4
2..............25,47........................ongoing
Hi Springbok
Hi Springbok , this stratergy seems impressive , I'm having similar results picking a random point in my database & testing from there . The highs method seems to be more accurate than fulhouse's side by side stratergy which only tracked a pair up to draw 20
Take care endbox
Hi Springbok , this stratergy seems impressive , I'm having similar results picking a random point in my database & testing from there . The highs method seems to be more accurate than fulhouse's side by side stratergy which only tracked a pair up to draw 20
Take care endbox
Hello Endbox
Yes, the strategy is superb. I see both the expected pairs hit today. In the last 10 days it has never failed me in real time betting. You tend to get the feeling of infallibility which is a great feeling to have. I strongly recommend it
. I am going to take a closer look at the pairs suggested in the N + x =< H column to see how accurate it is. Many times the 100% pairs are different from the actual highs.
Yes, the strategy is superb. I see both the expected pairs hit today. In the last 10 days it has never failed me in real time betting. You tend to get the feeling of infallibility which is a great feeling to have. I strongly recommend it
. I am going to take a closer look at the pairs suggested in the N + x =< H column to see how accurate it is. Many times the 100% pairs are different from the actual highs.