Sangoma-number divination

struxo

Member
Interesting thing with pairs:
in my tests i choose 1 pair with highest skip and 1 pair with second best value in column N+x=<N.
Then i check highest skip for singles. Number in pair with highest skip is most likely to come in 4 draws.
I still can't get 2 pairs to hit in same draw. But this is promising.
 

Springbok

Member
Hello Struxo

One of the best ways of hitting two numbers is by creating pairings and trip files. Here I am talking about attacking the 6/49 game. Create 6 files of pairs. Each file has 24 pairs. No pair should repeat in any other file. Do the same for trips. Study the reporting on each file and find a likely pair that will hit next draw. Same with the trips. You will have 6 two number combinations-one will be correct. Backtesting will enable you to sharpen your skills. You will be surpised how often you get it right. Apply your knowledge of the filters.
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Struxo

Try this technique also for catching two pairs for the next draw. You will use all the pairs(1176). Run skipsitter2 and 3. Same for the Inbetweener. Ignore the current skip cycle and look at the second one. Sort in ascending order. Make a note of this and check for the next draw. Go for the one with the highest skip. Backtest to get the feeling of this technique. I manged to get 2 pairs with this method at lunchtime draw.
 

struxo

Member
hi Springbok

Great advice as always, thanx man.
I tested little bit and looks very good. I play lotto 7/35 and i think that it's gonna work better then 6/49. If i remove numbers from last draw with skip2 = 0
then i have 4-5 numbers which have good chance to repeat in next draw. And with your technique i can get 1-2 numbers.
That way i can have 2-4 numbers in a group of 6-8. That is ok for me.
:thumb:
 

Springbok

Member
Windows vs DOS

I have been experimenting with Saliu's new Bright6. It requires at least 400,000 combinations. I used a Dos based combination generator and it took 28 seconds to produce those combinations. I then went to MDIED and used the combination generator. It was 40 times slower. It is Windows programming. For high speed computations Windows is a tortoise. Nothing can beat Dos for speed.
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Struxo and Barge

There are two viewpoints in the programme. If you are chasing a pair for 4 draws you must win or you will lose money. You must win on a continuous basis with the occasional loss. So far as far as I can see the historical high is the safest filter. I am entering my third week of real live testing with real money. I have not had a single loss.

When we are going for the jackpot in the 6/49 draw we expect to lose. No problem there. We only need to win once and that's it. We have triumphed and become one of the masters of the universe with a massive bank balance. So we can be less fanatical on winning every time as we are on the first viewpoint where we have to win because we expect to win on every bet within 4 draws. I expect it and it happens. So we have to be more daring and take chances with going for the jackpot. I have been experimenting with the 6/49 game and have come to the conclusion that if we use trips for the skipsitter and inbetweener and a pair from a historical high it is possible to solve 50% of the problem. There are 2 views here. If you are chasing a pool of numbers then you can get 3 winning numbers in a pool of eight. Or you can look at it when you fill 3 of the 6 slots with 2 trips and a pair. You should be able to do this in a maximum of 4 attempts with just a little piece of luck.
 

Springbok

Member
Hello Barge

Well 15 days have passed since I started real life testing for money. That is putting my mouth where my money is or is it the other way round. A success must be a hit within 4 draws with an embedded number in a pair. I have used a mixture of 6/49 and 7/49 pairs. A 100% success rate. No failures whatsoever. Can I stretch the 100% success rate for another 4 weeks? Only time will tell. I bet I get a failure sometime in the next fortnight. Historical highs are the method I used.
 
Springbok,

Well it appears that we lost Patrick, hopefully all is well with him.
I am going to retire my attempts at Pick 5 and go with your methods of 1/5 odds of single number betting. Would you be so kind to answer a few questions Springbok my dear fellow? I live in the states so Im going to use ladbrokers as my bookie.

1. Is their lotto 7 a good choice?

2. Are you using a progressive betting over the 4 draws?

3. Are you simply using the highest value skip pair?

4. What do you mean by testing 6/49 or 7/49?

Thanks!
 
Springbok

Ah well,
I've answered some of my questions...

Ladbrokes would work and I believe their 7/49 is the same lotto you are using. I believe you are testing both separate lottos (6/49).

I'm still curious to know your betting strategy over the four draws. Also, are you waiting until the highest skip pair reaches a particular value before betting on it?

Going back and reviewing FullHouse's old posts, I'm thinking this might be really profitable using a sound betting strategy and playing the highest skip pair. Like I said, I've given up trying to find ALL my numbers in one draw. I believe a profit could be made finding just one! :thumb:

Oh, may I PLEASE have a copy of your 7/49s past results? It would take me many many moons to type them all in from the ladbrokes site.:rolling:
 

Springbok

Member
Hello Jokerh1977

The lottery used by the bookies in the UK is the 49s. All bookies run bets on it either through the internet or visiting their premises. If you want the history of the draws go to Blue Square and get the 49s history. You can cut and paste creating a history file. You can paste the history file onto the edit portion of winnalotto and it will automatically tune it up to be read by the programme. Once everything is up and running you can begin testing. The strategy is identical to Fullhouse. You must win in 4 draws(or most of the time). You have to increase your betting for each draw until the fourth draw. Work out your betting stakes so you profit no matter which draw the number hits. The only difference from the Fullhouse strategy is that we use the historical highs which I believe to be superior in its reliability and hit rate. At the moment I am on my 13th win in a row. You must plan for an eventual failure which happens occasionally. Normally the pair will hit in the following 4 draws. Very rarely you will get a back to back failure. Should this happen to you. Stop betting for a day or two then start again when things get back to normal. By backtesting and recording the results you will see what happens. After you have done much testing then start betting with minimal stakes like 10p per number as your first bet. Do this for a couple of weeks and see how you go. When you see how this works then bet according to your comfort level. Remember Fullhouse's advice of never risking more than 10% of your bank on a series of 4 draws.
So far I have found the technique as successful in the 6/49 game as the 7/49 game. Test it and see for yourself. Remember your biggest enemy is not the odds but greed:)
 

barge

Member
Hi Springbok and All

I just returned from 2 weeks in Portugal and Spain, great food and weather, no lotto as I left the laptop at home. I am catching up on the thread......interesting things have clearly been going on.
My last win was on the 21st, 3 numbers and a (lucky) Tball. I was giving the 7/49 a rest for a while, but normal service will be resumed tomorrow!
Patrick is obviously up to his neck in something......hopefully work!
 

Springbok

Member
Hello Barge

Welcome back to a chilly England. The climate here is a nice contrast to the South African climate which is as close to perfection as you can get apart from the occasional drought and cold spell from the Antarctic and too much sunshine. Well for the last 3 weeks I have been betting on historical highs on a continuous basis. Last Sunday 9,12 failed to hit within 4 draws so it was the first failure in 20 days. As I expected it would hit in the 2nd round of 4 draws which it did on the first draw of round 2 at lunchtime. I expected a failure sometime and was prepared for it. Go thou and do likewise and you wont be disappointed. Whether you play the 6/49 game or the 7/49 game makes no difference. If you play the 6/49 game bet on it using the bonus ball as extra security. Fact is winning with this strategy is plain boring:)
 

Springbok

Member
Hello again Barge

I enrolled with Saliu's download section. Although I have had most of his software from long time ago I was interested in his Bright5 for the UK Thunderball lottery. It is extremely powerful but the problem is it requires 400,000 combinations. No problem with that except they have to be clean. In other words they must contain no duplicate combinations. Fact is when you create these simulated combinations they will have duplicates and it takes ages to purge the file. It is well worth looking at though as he overcomes the weakness of MDIED because the MDIED filters have layers. Without layers you have not a snowball's chance in hell of winning. But it would be great if you could adjust Bright5 to have only 150,000 combinations. At the moment it is definitely overkill with the 5/34 game. At the moment my time with lottery research is a bit restricted because I have to do some work for a change-like having a work break:)
 

barge

Member
Hi Springbok

Thanks for the welcome back, you are right about the weather. Although I was in Northern Portugal and Spain, the sun shone during the day, and one wet morning in two weeks was pretty good. I returned to a serious gale.
I was a boy the last time I was in South Africa, we called in at Capetown for fuel on the tramp ship I was learning my navigation on. I could have used GPS!
Things have changed since then of course, my daughter holidayed there when she was working in Lagos a couple of years ago, and loved it. She loved Northern Nigeria and Benin as well, so you can understand how much respect I have for her opinion!!
Good to see your success with the 49s, I will start again. I agree with you as regards the Windows dinosaur. I much prefer DOS for speed. I never got my head totally around some of Ion's software(me and a few other people), but there is no denying their elegance. I will take a look at the Bright prog. I am having modest successes with Winnalotto on the Tball, but as always the Tball itself is the problem. If I register with Ion, I will try the Bright5 prog using Debian, maybe Linux will be faster than Windows. Ion is well aware of the Windows speed problem, I am slightly surprised that he hasn't issued Bright5 in DOS, or allowed some experimentation in the number of draws required.
Anyway, let us carry on trying to beat the house(s), what else is there to do on wet days?? and the rewards could mean permanent dry ones!
 

Springbok

Member
Hello Barge

Yes, Saliu's stuff is difficult to understand because there is no logical exposition of his ideas. Knowledge is scattered piecemeal around his original site. The read me files are pretty out of date as they refer to the original Lotwon99. The Mdied tutorial is good though although it refers to his least powerful program Mdied. So to understand you have to jump around the his various posts and gather information. To get a handle on the MD filters in the Bright software you should read the Mdied tutorial. The Ws filters are from the Pick(Lotwon software). I have looked at his site where people can post but find little sign of intelligent life there
I better write in paragraphs or Saliu will come down on me like a ton of bricks:) (cheeky bugger) telling an English speaker how to write English.:) but he is quite right:agree: About 10 days ago I posted a query on a particular filter which I believe if used will disqualify anybody from having a chance of winning. So far there is no feedback. This makes me think that lottery enthusiasts who use his software are congenital idiots because they have not tested the filters. They assume everything is 100%. OK some of them in the past picked up bugs in Mdied which were corrected. I have in the past tested his 632 and 532 software and they seem to be 100% because if you set the filters accurately they will give the winning combination-of course the key word is accurate:)
Patrick seems to have disappeared. Some time ago he made a brief post mentioning he had problems with internet connections. Maybe a lion or a crocodile has bitten through some connections:) Also there is a problem of rolling blackouts where electrical power is cut on a rolling basis around the country as not enough electricity is generated. South Africa may generate 70% of all electricity in Africa but it is not enough for one country despite the fact that there is enough coal for the next 500 years and enough uranium forever.
 

barge

Member
Hi Springbok

Nicely put. I never had too much of a problem with Mdiedit, the easist to use of the lot. My problem was understanding what some of the filters in 632 and 532 were doing, or supposed to do. I actually got more winners using the Grid than anywhere else. During testing I found three separate jackpots in Grids, but as each grid is generated with it's own seed, in 2 years trying I never won more than about £40 using the 20 tickets in the small syndicate I used. As regards giving us details of how the filters worked, it is true that there were people perhaps trying to "steal" ideas from Ion, but so what? As an "open source" advocate.....my son is a programmer and gives his software including source code to the world through the internet. I don't see the problem. Quality, elegance and results are what count. Giving away software doesn't stop him having a very successful business which includes some heavyweight household name clients. Paranoia begets paranoia, I remember Bill Gates accusing IBM of dominating the market, now we have the most porous OS in the world checking by itself to see if it is legal or not, and every time I run Spybot on my machine the only problem it finds is Microsoft embedded progs!
Linux is probably the way to go, it is free and is increasingly used on servers as it is secure compared with the opposition. Also, you can run any OS on Linux, don't bother trying with Windows.
I have produced new "Alpha" files for the 6/49 and will resume testing, along with the 49's!:)
 

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