Sangoma-number divination

Springbok

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Hi Patrick

I sent an e-mail off to Sheldrake on this issue. I see he lives in London but I don't think he would appreciate some maniac asking him questions face to face on morphic fields and lotteries especially during the weekend:) . On the other hand he could be extremely interested as I said I will report back on future findings on this issue. I shall await a response.

I tried an experiment with the UK lottery. I cut off the last 48 draws and put the latest on top. I ran winnalotto targeting that draw. The results were inconclusive. You actually need a couple of future results to get the feel. I know how these filters behave or misbehave. If I have time I will put last last couple of current draws on the history minus 48 draws and try to see whatsup.

All we have is the previous draws on the SA lottery so they will have to do.
 

Springbok

Member
eSawubona Patrick

I ran a test with the UK49. This time i went back 52 draws. The last 4 current draws where then placed on top. I ran the draadsitters, inbetweeners and opening batsmen using the 4 current draws as a testing field based on the history that ended at the end of March. Much to my horror the filters seemed to be pretty accurate at prediction. This sort of upsets my sense of logic-maybe it was a freaky result although previous tests in the past with simulated files did show these tendencies.:confused: If this is so then we have a whole new ball game to learn. Past draws affect future draws-we know that. But what past draws could we use. Anyway I am going to test UK results using SA history and see whatsup.:confused: :confused:
 
black prince said:
Hi Joker1977 and Barge

I play pick5 with numbers 1 to 30. The FFG = 4.03 and Double FFG = 8.
I use Ion Saliu’s BRIGHT5 to get skip1, skip2, skip3, median, and favoriate
pairs. I use 200 previous real draws for history to predict the future draw:

(Very Hot Number) If Skip1 = Median, (Skip1 + Skip2) <= Double FFG, and
.......…….………………If (Skip1 + Skip2 + Skip3) <= Double FFG

(Hot Numbers) If Skip1 < Median, (Skip1 + Skip2) <= Double FFG, and
......……………….If (Skip1 + Skip2 + Skip3) <= Double FFG

(Prior Numbers) Same as Hot only it’s Prior

(Cold Numbers) If Skip1 > Double FFG and Skip2 > Double FFG

(Long Shot Numbers) If Skip1 >= Historical High Skip for 200 Draws

Very Hot Numbers are good key numbers. I use Very Hot, Hot, Prior and Cold
Numbers. My result is usually 9 to 13 numbers. Then I compare the PAIRS5
Report from BRIGHT5 to get pairs that play often with these numbers.
Most are already there, but some numbers show a strong showing with
certain numbers. It’s a judgement call.

Next is an effective Wheel for 9 to 13 numbers. :rolling:

BP

BP,
I'm trying to dig for some good wheels for you to try but I'm a bit confused. The FFG median for a 5/30 game is 3.8 not 4.03. It's close I know, but Double the FFG could be a little different. How are you calculating the FFG?Also, are you referring to the FFG median or the "real" median in selecting your numbers? Are you essentially using the "real" median and Double the FFG?

If you have been getting 3-5 numbers from your pool of 9-13, then 4/5 will guarantee profit (a lot) if you buy all the selections. 5/5 obviously. With 3/5 you would lose less than half your vestment (if all tickets were played). If I was in your shoes I would begin full wheels of these numbers immediately.
 

CFLam

Member
To: Black Prince
Payback time. I discover that (by skippairs.exe) number may not pairs with first 2 pairing, e.g.
Number: 2 Hits: 9 ( 9.2 %)
With #: 40 12 22 29 32 37 39 8 45 47 16 17 18 20 6 23 24 25 27 7 30 1 35 10 11 5 41 43 44 14 46 15 49 3 36 19 38 26 4 28 42 21 9 31 13 33 48 34
Hits: 4 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

if we choose first 2 pair, we will use 40 and 12. However, with skippair.exe, I find that number are best pairing with 1st and 19 pair when I use 200 previous draw (no. 40 35 in this case) and if I use 98 previous draw to calculate, number are best pair with 1st and 42 pair!

CFLam
 
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JokerH1977

BP,
I'm trying to dig for some good wheels for you to try but I'm a
bit confused. The FFG median for a 5/30 game is 3.8 not 4.03.
It's close I know, but Double the FFG could be a little
different. How are you calculating the FFG?Also, are you
referring to the FFG median or the "real" median in selecting
your numbers? Are you essentially using the "real" median and
Double the FFG?

If you have been getting 3-5 numbers from your pool of 9-13,
then 4/5 will guarantee profit (a lot) if you buy all the
selections. 5/5 obviously. With 3/5 you would lose less than
half your vestment (if all tickets were played). If I was in
your shoes I would begin full wheels of these numbers
immediately.

I calculate FFG using SuperFormula.exe from Saliu's recommended
software. I used DC=50%, p1=5, p2=30. The result is 4.03. I get
the sorted median from UTIL532 -> Frequency Report. I compare Skip1
to the sorted median. If skip1 equals the Sorted Median and Skip1 is
less than or equal FFG, I flag this number automatically on my spreadsheet.
If Skip1 and Skip2 is less than or equal double FFG, this is a stronger test.
These DO NOT garantee a sure hit, but give this number a higher value
of being in the next drawing. I've been working with the "Purge"
as Partick123 suggested and the results are very promising. Already
I've won 4 out-of 5 prizes and alot of 3 out-of 5 prizes. This
is getting interesting.



CFLam
To: Black Prince
Payback time. I discover that (by skippairs.exe) number may not
pairs with first 2 pairing, e.g.

Number: 2 Hits: 9 ( 9.2 %)
With #: 40 12 22 29 32 37 39 8 45 47 16 17 18 20 6 23 24 25 27 7 30 1 35 10 11 5 41 43 44 14 46 15 49 3 36 19 38 26 4 28 42 21 9 31 13 33 48 34

Hits: 4 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

if we choose first 2 pair, we will use 40 and 12. However, with skippair.exe,
I find that number are best pairing with 1st and 19 pair when I use 200
previous draw (no. 40 35 in this case) and if I use 98 previous draw to
calculate, number are best pair with 1st and 42 pair!

CFLam

Thanks for this suggestion. My method to pick the first two pairs
was crude and most times not effective. I'm trying your suggestion
now. I'm applying these results to another Pick5 (5/39) and so
far it's showing promise. My goal is to reduce the numbers further
before using the "Purge"

BP
 

barge

Member
Hi All

If I have say, 13 numbers to play in a 5/34, how do I purge them?
I have the (Ions's) software, but do I have to make a large file with the 13 numbers, before I purge them?
 

Springbok

Member
Lotjani Barge

There are a number of ways. You could create a full wheel of 1,287 combinations.I assume you use Lotwon532. At the top of your D5 file write in all the numbers you want to miss out in sets of 5. In your case you will have 5 sets of 5. You will add zeros as place fillers or just repeat a number. In the st file you will see 3 zeros on top. On the extreme left write 5 in the place of that zero. This will tell the programme that those 5 lines contain the numbers you don't want. Run Lotto.exe to generate all the combinatios to disk. This is the file you will purge. Try it and see.
 

barge

Member
Springbok

Thanks for that, I will do it this week.
4 hits in the Tball on Saturday, not on the same line. The fifth was in my discards.
 
black prince SuperFormula.exe

black prince

do you have a copy of SuperFormula.exe? i have util632 and want to try your method with the florida lotto. can't fine SuperFormula.exe in my util632 directory.

thanks
turtle0747@yahoo.com
 

Springbok

Member
G'Day Barge

It is time to humble the Thunderball lottery with the Power of Winnalotto-sangoma edition. Let's give it a full broadside. Try this techniques. Load the data. Seek a pair or trip with the draadsitter-they are designed to strike the next draw. With the Opening batsmen and inbetweeners go back one or two draws. Try to find 2 pairs or trips. This theoretically fills 3 slots out of the 5. Look for a historical high. This should fill 4 slots. The fifth slot can be looked for by taking a combination pointed out by the ALL filter in Lotwon532. Make sure it does not contain any numbers from the previous trips and or pairs. Remember purge your rows down a couple.

For the actual Thunderball create a number of files containing trips based on the 14 numbers run an analysis and pick the strongest looking trip.

Backtest on paper to see how this works out. Don't worry about purging-all you wanna do is park pairs or trips into the slots,no more no less.

I'll race you for the prize.:)

By the way, if you use any anti filters, do it carefully. Just a couple from each. Sometimes the draad2-anti wipes out 14 numbers but it cannot be totally relied on unfortunately.
 
Hi Barge

Barge

If I have say, 13 numbers to play in a 5/34, how do I purge them?
I have the (Ions's) software, but do I have to make a large file
with the 13 numbers, before I purge them?

I create a small text file called "test.txt" where I type my selections
double spaced on one line. Ex. 1 3 5 17 18 ... and so on.
I save this file and use it as input to UTIL532 -> "M" Make/Break/Position ->
option "4" Break 5+/Positional Ranges. It creates an output file called BREAK5.5.
This is a massive wheel of my numbers from "test.txt". This file must
be "Purged" to a reasonable size. Next I used UTIL532 -> "D" Duplicates:
Strip / Wheel. I choose 4 out-of 5 as a wheel result. So, for example a set
of 9 numbers usually results in 14 sets to play. :) This seems to reduce
and create an effective wheel of numbers.

I have a question about how many past draws are needed to create an
effective sorted median. Saliu's forum suggests you have at least three
times or more draws determined by the number set. So, If my Pick5 is
5/30, I should have approx 30 X 3 = 90 or more. The more numbers you
have the greater the past draws should be. Too little or too much past
history the more inaccurate the results. Anyone got some suggestions ?

BP
 

barge

Member
Hi Black Prince

Thanks for the info, it is a few years since I used some of Ion's software!

I usually use twice twice the numbers in the lotto, then vary it to try and reduce the results to a manageable size, but I don't think there is a final answer to this one. As Springbok said, experiment/test until you are getting results!
 

Springbok

Member
Beware of Shapeshifters

If my memory serves me right, I once watched a science fiction series on TV about how aliens wanted to take over the Earth. They looked like humans but were really reptiles(lizards I think). Now and again they would shapeshift from human into reptile and back again. Some people think this is true and for example believe the Royal Family are shapeshifters. :) Different strokes for different folks I guess.:)

Fact is you can encounter the real shapeshifter when you use the draadsitter and inbetweener filters. The draadsitters used to annoy me because many times they hit only 2 draws later. I ran a series of test with draadsitters using trips and this is what I found out. If a trip is pulled out and has a median of 1 then this means the draadsitter will shapeshift into an inbetweener in the the next draw because the true median should have been two. In the second draw it will shapeshift back into a draadsitter and hit. The same would apply to the inbetweener. It could shapeshift into a draadsitter for the next draw and hit next draw instead of 2 draws later.
 
Barge

Hi Black Prince
Thanks for the info, it is a few years since I used some of Ion's software!

I usually use twice twice the numbers in the lotto, then vary it to try and reduce the results to a manageable size, but I don't think there is a final answer to this one. As Springbok said, experiment/test until you are getting results!
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I agree that the answers can be found in the past draws. The data is massive
and I looking for software which would help me make quick changes to test my
theories. Right now, i'm doing a lot of manual testing and it's not easy. I'm
going back to the basics, starting with the relationship of the current skip
and the median. What is the best numbers of past draws to use, etc. I do
believe this method of interpreting past draws is way better than Quik picks,
or guessing.

BP
 

CFLam

Member
automatic/speed up testing on strategy

black prince said:
I agree that the answers can be found in the past draws. The data is massive
and I looking for software which would help me make quick changes to test my
theories. Right now, i'm doing a lot of manual testing and it's not easy. I'm
going back to the basics, starting with the relationship of the current skip
and the median. What is the best numbers of past draws to use, etc. I do
believe this method of interpreting past draws is way better than Quik picks,
or guessing.

BP

Black Prince,

For me, I am using AutoIt to automatic the manual work. You know, no matter use Ion's software or WinnaLotto, repeat the same keystrokes for 6 hours not only a un-pleasent experience, this process also error prone.
The upside of AutoIt is: its free of charge and the downside is: you need programming skill to use it.

Regds
CFLam
 

Springbok

Member
Kunjani Patrick

I have managed to increase the accuracy of the programme by making it do less. By accuracy I mean chasing one number in a pair. I am still trying to harmonise the different filters to obtain multiple hits in a single line.

I always noticed that I was always more accurate when I was using my VB6 alpha beta etc files.This is based on months of experience. What I have now done is to extract the pairs from the alpha, beta,charlie and delta files. The pool of pairs is now 24x4. The combined pairings are saved in a file and are called upon when scanning by the inbetweeners and opening batsmen. The result is a slaughter of the odds.

Nevertheless the objective is to constantly obtain multiple strikes on a single line. This is where the programme will achieve its ultimate goal.

Have they still got hitching posts for your horses in Maseru?
 

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