Optimum Set

Beaker

Member
GillesD said:
Karnac

You may now want to consider the following 15-number sets (always based on 2186 drawings), if most interested in most hits for 5-winning numbers:

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-13--22-23-27-30-31-34 which gives 82x5-winning numbers, 5x6-winning numbers and 1x7-winning numbers.
This is a fantastic set :agree:

Notice the composition - no 40's , 7 primes

Nice find :agree2:

I'm running best 12 - will post some results as they are available :spiny:
 

Karnac

Member
Beaker said:
GillesD/Karnac

can either of you check this set:

1 2 3 4 5 6 8 11 13 14 22 27 30 31 34

Here you go Beaker

01 x 7 numbers
14 x 6 "
68 x 5 "
185 x 4 "
533 x 3 "
720 x 2 "
517 x 1 "
160 x 0 "
 

Karnac

Member
Beaker said:
and GillesD's set for comparison


Here you go....


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 13 22 23 27 30 31 34

01 x 7 numbers
05 x 6 "
83 x 5 "
188 x 4 "
508 x 3 "
774 x 2 "
489 x 1 "
150 x 0 "
 

Beaker

Member
Karnac said:
Here you go....


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 13 22 23 27 30 31 34

01 x 7 numbers
05 x 6 "
83 x 5 "
188 x 4 "
508 x 3 "
774 x 2 "
489 x 1 "
150 x 0 "
You da man :agree2: thanks for that

Let's keep searching - data as of 2198

Beaker said:
GillesD/Karnac

can either of you check this set:

1 2 3 4 5 6 8 11 13 14 22 27 30 31
34
Karnac said:
Here you go Beaker

01 x 7 numbers
14 x 6 "
68 x 5 "
185 x 4 "
533 x 3 "
720 x 2 "
517 x 1 "
160 x 0 "
 

Beaker

Member
Karnac, question for you.

Which of those sets would you prefer to play long run? which is more optimum for you?
 

Karnac

Member
Beaker said:
Karnac, question for you.

Which of those sets would you prefer to play long run? which is more optimum for you?

Beaker ...in the long run I like this set by GillesD

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 11 14 27 30 31 35 47

0 x 7
20 x 6....this intrigues me..gotta go with the hot jackpot proven combo
45 x 5
194 x 4
555 x 3

What I do in the short term is choose the combos that have the most numbers having hit within 5 draws. This is the criteria I use to pick one of the 4 combos GillesD posted. This combo has a 37% win ratio.(3+numbers)
 

BushHappy

Member
Spreadsheet

GillesD said:
To all of you that asked for my spreadsheet, it should be ready soon.

GillesD and LT,

GillesD, did you ever ask LT to forward your spreadsheet to the interested parties?

Cheers,
BushHappy
 

bloubul

Member
GillesD

If I post my full draw for you on the Internet and let you have the link, will you be able to change it for me so that I can get the Optimum Sets to show and send it back to me.

Please let me know if you are willing to do it.

BlouBul :cool:
 

shirazbai

Member
Karnac said:
Gilles, would it be possible for you to make up 3 or 4 optimum sets for ONtario49?

I'd be v.happy to see even one.

I have nothing more productive to add, only to say that this is an excellent thread. :agree2:
 
Nick Koutras said:
LottoStatisticsXL does all that
and more...
Agree.... :agree: :agree2:
Sorry Nick I didn't have the time to send you any new ideas that you requested from players in a 6/49 thread not so long ago....I did not forget but I have little of my time these days...I am currently working with some softwares creators and it takes almost all of my time....
I'll catch up at one point...

:agree: :agree2:
 

bloubul

Member
Nick

Thanks for the info.

I still don't know how to get the Optimum Set(s) for the next draw,or what to put where?

Can you please give me some pointers. ( Play 6 / 49 lotto)

Thanks in advance

BlouBul :cool:
 

bloubul

Member
GillesD

I'm wondering if you have forgot to talk to me.

I still awaits your repsonse to my previous post.

BlouBul :cool:
 

bloubul

Member
PAB

Will it be possible for you to write a macro to get the Optimum Set. (3 sets)

It looks to me if GillesD is not going to talk to me.

Your other macro works great.

Thanks

BlouBul :cool:
 

GillesD

Member
Optimum set

bloubul

It is not that I do not want to talk to you but I can not answer your question for these reasons:

- I do not have all results on all lotteries, although it is feasible to get this information, I have decided to maintain databases on only 3 lotteries: Canadian 6/49, Québec 49 and UK 6/49.

- to me, the term Optimum Set has never been formally defined; here are some questions that come to my mind:

--- how many numbers should be be included in the Optimum Set: 15 numbers has been mentionned often, but also 12 and why not 10, 16, 18 or any other number? As the number increases, so does the number of possibilities to verify.

--- what constitutes an Optimum Set? The set with the most 3 winning numbers (WN) for past draws? Or the set with the most 4 WN? Or the set with the most 5 WN? Or the set with the most 3+4+5 WN? Should 4 WN weight more than 3 WN in the total and if so, what weight should be given? And what about 5 WN?

--- Another important issue to consider is: Are past results indicative in some predictive way of draws yet to come or are the upcoming draws independant and unrelated to past draws?


Once you have answered these simple questions to define the Optimum Set, the principle to obtain what you want is quite simple. Let's say you have decided to find a 10-number Optimum Set:

1 - Identify each of the 10-number sets possible from the 49 numbers in your lottery. Luckyly, with 10 numbers, the possibilities are not that great, only 8,217,822,536.

2 - For each 10-number set, identify each 6-number possibility. At least, this number of combinations is manageable (210).

3 - Using past draw results (slightly more than 2000 for Canadian 6/49), with each 6-number possibility, verify how many 3WN, 4WN, 5WN and 6WN this combination has got and keep this in memory.

4 - Keep going until you have gone through all possibilitie and you have your answer.

This might not be the most efficient one but will get you an Optimum Set based on your criteria.

And thenchanging your criteria will require you to start over. And by the way, this does not take into consideration the bonus number. Adding it will only increase the time required.

Obviously shortcuts are possible to reduce calculation time, but then the only way to be 100% sure is to look at all possibilities.
 

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