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Patrick123

Member
Good Morning Springbok,
Wednesdays Lotto here in SA was totally different to what was expected. On further analysis I can see a sort of waxing and waning in certain filters, but then as they say, hindsight is 20/20 :)

Hi Moses,
An interesting observation, looking at our lotto I see there has been a fair number of triple ending digits. I've also noticed a number of draws with 2 and even 3 double ending digits. This definitely warrants further investigation. Our last draw was 11,31 - 25,35 - 19,39 - 48. The draw before contained 15,25 and 45.

BP, the Prediction tab that you see on my version is still under development, and that is ultimately where all the high potential numbers will be combined and purged through various filters. That is the part I'm busy with now wich is why I'm looking at Moses' and Struxo's digit ending methodologies to assist.

joesam, as Springbok said, we have been developing this for a number of months, unfortunately, it's not like the normal lotto programs where you hit one button and it spits out a collection of numbers... here you have to work for your money ;) bear with it, get to know and understand it, and I promise you'll reap the benefits. It is not perfect (yet), but will allow you to read and interpret the behaviour of the balls and make a more knowledgeable selection.

Bloubul, ons het ons @#$ gesien, but it just confirms, there will be the few draws that are totally off what statistics tells us.

At the moment, number 27 is screaming at me for Saturday, I will continue to run through the numbers and put down my best guestimate by tomorrow this time.

The results of the SA lottery can be found at http://www.nationallottery.co.za for anyone interested.

Regards
Patrick
 

Patrick123

Member
This is my Yo-Yo Up High Probability Filter.

#20 > #1
and
#21 < #1
and
#22 > #1
and
#23 < #1
and
#24 > #1
and
#51 < #1
and
#52 > #1
and
#53 < #1
and
#8 > 0
and
#14 >= 30


The cut-off value of 30 by the #14 >= 30 can be adjusted all the way to 45 if too many rows appear.

Only use this filter when evaluating trips. Ignore for balls and pairs.

Regards
Patrick
 

bloubul

Member
Springbok
"Try this technique.It can do wonderful things for you. First of all you need to get rid of all columns except for skip 1. You must tick the show all skips on the right hand side radio button. Save this. I called this file Skipsearcher. When you bring up this file after you have loaded your database you will see the skip1 column and some of the skips on the right. Expand the skip section across the screen. Sort the skip 1 column into descending order(or vice versa). Look at skips 6,7,8(depending on your lottery). Now look at the skip history. For example if you are looking at a skip 8 pair see if the skip 8 had been challenged in the past. If it has been challenged like hitting skip 9 and then reversed then this pair is hot for the next draw or the one after. Back test this idea and see the wondrous things it can do for you. It is not infallible but should should thrash random expectations"
Help I miss the boat completly.

Here are the Robert Serotic wheel.

A B 1 2 13 14
A B 1 2 19 20
A B 3 4 15 16
A B 3 4 21 22
A B 5 6 17 18
A B 7 8 13 14
A B 7 8 19 20
A B 9 10 15 16
A B 9 10 21 22
A B 11 12 17 18
A B 1 2 15 16
A B 1 2 21 22
A B 3 4 17 18
A B 5 6 13 14
A B 5 6 19 20
A B 7 8 15 16
A B 7 8 21 22
A B 9 10 17 18
A B 11 12 13 14
A B 11 12 19 20
A B 1 2 17 18
A B 3 4 13 14
A B 3 4 19 20
A B 5 6 15 16
A B 5 6 21 22
A B 7 8 17 18
A B 9 10 13 14
A B 9 10 19 20
A B 11 12 15 16
A B 11 12 21 22

Refference:
System's Prize Guarantees:
When Pick 6 Lotto is played: First Prize Jackpot
(6 out of 6) is guaranteed if 2 Key Numbers +any
1 Pair from each group are guessed correctly.
(Wheel is made up from 2 Key Numbers plus 11 Pairs)

BlouBul :cool:
 

joesam

Member
Hi bloubul,

Sorry, I was not on line earlier. I will be happy to have a look at the Robert Serotic wheeling system

Cheers

Joesam:thumb:
 

joesam

Member
Hi bloubul

Thanks for the key number wheel

Patrick123

I do have a look at the lds, in fact if you used lds 159 and wheeled 15 numbers you would have scored 5+bonus. I stopped playing the lotto after the wrangle over who the operator will be and only started again a few weeks ago when there was a big jackpot up for grabs. I won a few rand the first week and then again the third week.

Cheers

JoeSam
 

joesam

Member
I definitely don't understand how Winnalotto works but I get numbers 28 and 38 jumping out. I am sure I am totally off track!

Joesam
 

struxo

Member
hi Patrick

I have another idea about digit endings.
Make 3 groups:

group I 1 2 3
group II 4 5 6
group III 7 8 9 0

If last drawn number was from group I then it's 66% chance that next draw number will come from groups II and III. It's like in Saliu's roulette system.
If drawn number came two times from same group then it's very sure that next number is from other 2 groups.
You can make one button in program so we can see in wich position one group
came 2 or more times.
 

Moses

Member
Patrick123 said:
Hi Moses,
An interesting observation, looking at our lotto I see there has been a fair number of triple ending digits. I've also noticed a number of draws with 2 and even 3 double ending digits. This definitely warrants further investigation. Our last draw was 11,31 - 25,35 - 19,39 - 48. The draw before contained 15,25 and 45.

BPPatrick

Hello Patrick

There is lots more info coming your way but right now I stay back and watch, hopefully something good comes out from all of this but however I am looking forward to hear more from you regarding the triple ending digits that's if you'll find anything interesting!

Moses
 

Moses

Member
struxo said:
I have another idea about digit endings.
Make 3 groups:

group I 1 2 3
group II 4 5 6
group III 7 8 9 0

If last drawn number was from group I then it's 66% chance that next draw number will come from groups II and III. It's like in Saliu's roulette system.
If drawn number came two times from same group then it's very sure that next number is from other 2 groups.
You can make one button in program so we can see in wich position one group
came 2 or more times.

Hello struxo

Can you explain more about your idea please, do you mean all 6 jackpot numbers from one group or how many numbers whereas I don't think this is practical or happened that often before!

Moses
 
Hi struxo

struxo said:
If last drawn number was from group I then it's 66% chance that next draw number will come from groups II and III. It's like in Saliu's roulette system.
If drawn number came two times from same group then it's very sure that next number is from other 2 groups.

I wanna raise you one question. I will take the coin example. The probability of each is 50% for both sides of a coin.

Well according to your algorithm (which I think I can guess) if a side appears in the first toss there is a 75% probability that the other side will appear in the next. That means that any side will have 75% of ALL skips equal to 1! OMG. How many times that happens? I think never if you have enough tosses. The 75% probability refers to the probability of a coin to appear in the first OR the second toss. That is why in 75% of the skips you will have skips of 0 and 1.

What is the probability of both sides in the second draw? Well if we use a little formulae of Pascal:

p * q^N , where p is the probability of the event, q is 1- p and n is the number of trials

This tells us what is the probability of an event to appear FOR THE FIRST TIME in the Nth trial. In our case, where both p and q are 50%, what is the probability that one side will appear for the first time in the second toss? 50% * 50% ^ 2 = 25%! As you can see 25% + 50% is 75%, the probability of a side to appear in the FIRST TWO TOSSES.

Now, my opinion is that both sides have the same probability in the second draw, 50%-50%. Why? You tell me.

This idea can be extended also to any kind of probabilities, including those of numbers, pairs or trips. They always have the same probability. That DOESN’T mean that past draw don’t influence present draws. At least this is my opinion...

I also think this brainstorming should be moved in a new thread, or the old sangoma one, otherwise this might definitely hijack the thread of Moses.
 

struxo

Member
hi

I'm not very good with math. I'm just brainstorming. It is idea developed from Saliu's roulette system. There is 3 groups of numbers 1-12,13-24,25-36.
I don't talking about all 6 lotto numbers. You make those groups for each number. So you can check how this working on every of 6 positions.
Start with first drawn number. Then check first drawn number last week, then first drawn number week before.
Now you have history for first drawn number. Make those groups and see how it working.
Then do same thing for second drawn number, then third etc.

Here is example from BP's post:
04/14/08 02 06 14 23 28
04/13/08 01 04 07 22 25
04/12/08 05 09 10 12 27
04/11/08 04 06 07 19 29
04/10/08 08 13 18 20 23

first numbers are 2 1 5 4 8 (vertical)
4/10 first number is 8 from group III (next should be from groups I or II)
4/11 first number is 4 from group II (next should be from groups I or III)
4/12 -- II -- 5 group II (next should be from groups I or III)
now we have two consecutive numbers from group II

4/13 first number is 1 from group I (next should be from groups II or III)
4/14 2 group I
again same situation with numbers from one group.

I don't have result from 4/15 but i can guess that first number is from groups II or III.
I hope this helped.
 
Struxo


Originated from Struxo
hi
I'm not very good with math. I'm just brainstorming. It is idea developed from Saliu's roulette system. There is 3 groups of numbers 1-12,13-24,25-36.
I don't talking about all 6 lotto numbers. You make those groups for each number. So you can check how this working on every of 6 positions.
Start with first drawn number. Then check first drawn number last week, then first drawn number week before.
Now you have history for first drawn number. Make those groups and see how it working.
Then do same thing for second drawn number, then third etc.

Here is example from BP's post:
04/14/08 02 06 14 23 28
04/13/08 01 04 07 22 25
04/12/08 05 09 10 12 27
04/11/08 04 06 07 19 29
04/10/08 08 13 18 20 23

first numbers are 2 1 5 4 8 (vertical)
4/10 first number is 8 from group III (next should be from groups I or II)
4/11 first number is 4 from group II (next should be from groups I or III)
4/12 -- II -- 5 group II (next should be from groups I or III)
now we have two consecutive numbers from group II

4/13 first number is 1 from group I (next should be from groups II or III)
4/14 2 group I
again same situation with numbers from one group.

I don't have result from 4/15 but i can guess that first number is from groups II or III.
I hope this helped.

Here's the rest:

4/15/08 - 4, 14, 16, 21, 23
4/16/08 - 1, 12, 21, 22, 28
4/17/08 - 12, 18, 21, 22, 23
4/18/08 - 11, 13, 20, 27, 29
4/19/08 - 4, 6, 16, 19, 25
4/20/08 - 5, 18, 25, 29, 30
4/21/08 - 8, 13, 15, 26, 30
4/22/08 - 5, 10, 16, 24, 28
4/23/08 - 1, 3, 7, 14, 19
4/24/08 - 2, 11, 15, 20, 26
4/25/08 - 2, 13, 14, 15, 19
4/26/08 - 4, 5, 10, 19, 23
4/27/08 - 14, 15, 21, 25, 27
4/28/08 - 6, 8, 16, 25, 27
4/29/08 - 2, 14, 17, 18, 20
4/30/08 - 5, 11, 22, 23, 30
5/01/08 - 2, 5, 9, 15, 27
5/02/08 - 3, 8, 9, 14, 18

-BP
 
Hi SpringBok


Originated from Springbok
Hi Black Prince
Look very carefully at trips which have zeros for the last three skips. Look at this filter

zero3
#20 = 0
and
#21 = #20
and
#22 = #20
and
#23 > #20

I get the following trips using this filter, but I can't figure which trips are best.
Can you give me some suggestions?

3:4:5
3:5:8
3:5:15
3:15:22
3:15:30

4:5:8

5:7:8
5:8:12
5:9:19
5:8:26

8:11:15
8:15:22
8:15:30

Thanks

-BP
 

Springbok

Member
Hello Black Prince

The zero3 filter with trips can give you too much choice. What I do is I have a whole bunch of alpha3, beta3 etc groupings. I join some of them up to produce another file called 3ABCD. I then scan that with zero3. If it gives me one trip then I use that. It often works very well. OK it is crude but if it works I am not complaining.
 

Patrick123

Member
SA Lotto 3 May

Here is my workings for the Lotto.
Hist High 28 38
Cold 33 5 8 28 34 38
Mega Draad 27
Draadsitters 27 9 14 43 46 49
Opening Batsmen HP 6 14 31 8 23
Opening Batsmen 19
Uboat 21 25 45 48
YoYo Down 5 20 9 35
YoYo Up High Prob
InBetweener 20 49
Very Hot 12
FulHouse6
Springbok2 9 10 14 23 37 44 46
Struxo2 19 20 49
Double Below & HMH 24
BP 12
IB Pair Trips 10 20


The Uboat Filter has given a ball in the ball range for the past 3 or 4 weeks.
25 & 48 came in on Wed. So I'll skip them and take 21 and 45.
28 and 38 are at their historical high, especially 28 with a skip at 56 so it should pop any minute.
27 is standing out as the fence-sitter of note.
12, 10, 20 and 49 are been reflected in a number of filters, so I'll add them to my mix.

It's not quite rocket science yet, but hopefully taking the numbers, (this is the part that's not complete yet), and applying Moses' & Struxo's filters, there should be a glimmer of hope :)

Regards
Patrick
 

Springbok

Member
Sawubona Patrick

Look at column1 and column 6 in the SA draw carefully. The median for Col1 is 6 and the median for col6 is 45. For the last 3 draws the numbers have been striking above the median and I expect tonight's draw to show a max of 6 in col 1 and a max of 45 in col 6. I have seen this situation before.
 

Springbok

Member
Hi again Patrick

Here is some more statistical information on the SA lottery relating to the median of columns:
Col 1 median 6(57%)
Col 2 median 13(53%)
Col 3 median 21(53%)
Col 4 median 29(52%)
Col 5 median 37(54%)
Col 6 median 45(55%)

Keeping a sharp look out on the behaviour of the columns can often give you an indication of what to expect to arrive there and what not to expect to arrive there.
Viva statistics:)
 

struxo

Member
hi

Again about ending digits :)
For the first number we can change groups and have these 3 groups:

group I 1 2
group II 3 4
group III 5 6 7 8 9 0

Springbok & Patrick :
it can be interesting to have function to parse alpha and others filters to find only one pair or triple which is good to play.

And Patrick if you have time to check is it bug in program with Keno games. It not loading 20 numbers, only 19. Maybe it is problem with array or something.
 

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