Lottery Forecasting
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... that's a tidy little sum to help keep you going.Brad,
Thank you. I'm not sure about the drawing methods for any of the lotteries I am forecasting. I'm currently forecasting 35 lotteries across 5 countries and 14 states. It is my belief that I would actually perform better against computer generated numbers.
Thornc,
Thank you. As I've stated a few times my systems can go up against any lottery although it is easier to handle the lower odds lotteries. My program is dynamic and database driven, so I just define the lottery in the database, and write the code to get the results - it does everything else (I do need to make some parameter adjustments).
If the Italian lotteries that you mentioned have results posted on the web, I'd be glad to add them to my forecasts just to see how I do.
Thanks again everyone!
Thank you. I'm not sure about the drawing methods for any of the lotteries I am forecasting. I'm currently forecasting 35 lotteries across 5 countries and 14 states. It is my belief that I would actually perform better against computer generated numbers.
Thornc,
Thank you. As I've stated a few times my systems can go up against any lottery although it is easier to handle the lower odds lotteries. My program is dynamic and database driven, so I just define the lottery in the database, and write the code to get the results - it does everything else (I do need to make some parameter adjustments).
If the Italian lotteries that you mentioned have results posted on the web, I'd be glad to add them to my forecasts just to see how I do.
Thanks again everyone!
Brad
Member
Tarantula said:
Well then Tarantula, in that case the BC49 could use some serious punishment ... if/when you get a chance have a look at their history, you can download a zip file from here. I and several other members would love to beat up on them
Cheers
PS the bi-weekly $2M Jackpot hasn't been won since Jul'04
Nick Koutras
Member
colonel4 said:
This is my opinion for the blank
screen you have, since NONE of my firewall & browsers allow this site to run on my computer.
The site runs ActiveX controls or VB scripts.
An unfair practice since the reason behind is not explained by the owner.
Nick Koutras
Member
mirage said:Works for me...
Do you allow ActiveX controls or VB scripts to run in your browser?
Brad,
I have added the BC49 as requested.
Nick,
For someone who is a Super Senior Member and knows a little about the web (you may know alot, but I can't tell that yet), you are quick to jump to conclusions.
1. If you receive a blank screen it's because the site is down or busy - not because your firewall or browser doesn't allow it (although your firewall could be blocking the IP address or subnet of the development server I am using - I don't think that's very likely). You must have missed the post where I mentioned I'm having problems with my development server.
2. No Active-X or VBS involved, simply Cold Fusion, and basic HTML - I'd be willing to bet you could even pull the site up in a browser that doesn't even support Active-X or VBS. Session-State is not tracked, no cookies should be used. 98% of the content at the site is plain text. I've always tried to make my sites platform and browser independent, and always will.
3. Keep in mind this is a development site - not open to the general public, not marketed - this is the only place I've even mentioned it. And I've only done that to get some feedback from actual lottery players.
4. When you load the default page at weblotto.org (which is actually a production server) - you get a frame page which has two frames, an invisible blank page, and a large visible page that is pulled from the development server - I won't go into an explanation of why - but that's what's happening.
5. Unfair practice? Life's not fair! If I were to choose to use Active-X or whatever, then in order to use my web site - you must enable it, otherwise you won't see things as I intended - I would probably place a message saying that you must enable it, but I am not required to provide you with an explanation of why I am using it - most users wouldn't understand a technical explanation anyway.
I'm guessing that you're a little paranoid about web sites that use active-x, and vbs - keep in mind that the functionality those provide can also be acheived by other means. And once you connect your computer to the internet, you have no security (If you think you're secure just because you're sitting behind a firewall then you are sadly mistaken). Locks only keep honest people honest - they don't keep dishonest people out, they just make it more work for them.
I apologize for jumping on you like that - your comments struck a nerve. I'm not a lotto player using computers as a hobby, I'm an old computer professional (I'm currently maintaining around 50 web servers, assorted other servers, firewalls and lan / wan infrastructure - I've been involved in the development of so many web sites I've lost count) who has the lotto as a hobby.
Thank you for your efforts, if you are still unable to pull up the site let me know so we can figure out the problem.
I have added the BC49 as requested.
Nick,
For someone who is a Super Senior Member and knows a little about the web (you may know alot, but I can't tell that yet), you are quick to jump to conclusions.
1. If you receive a blank screen it's because the site is down or busy - not because your firewall or browser doesn't allow it (although your firewall could be blocking the IP address or subnet of the development server I am using - I don't think that's very likely). You must have missed the post where I mentioned I'm having problems with my development server.
2. No Active-X or VBS involved, simply Cold Fusion, and basic HTML - I'd be willing to bet you could even pull the site up in a browser that doesn't even support Active-X or VBS. Session-State is not tracked, no cookies should be used. 98% of the content at the site is plain text. I've always tried to make my sites platform and browser independent, and always will.
3. Keep in mind this is a development site - not open to the general public, not marketed - this is the only place I've even mentioned it. And I've only done that to get some feedback from actual lottery players.
4. When you load the default page at weblotto.org (which is actually a production server) - you get a frame page which has two frames, an invisible blank page, and a large visible page that is pulled from the development server - I won't go into an explanation of why - but that's what's happening.
5. Unfair practice? Life's not fair! If I were to choose to use Active-X or whatever, then in order to use my web site - you must enable it, otherwise you won't see things as I intended - I would probably place a message saying that you must enable it, but I am not required to provide you with an explanation of why I am using it - most users wouldn't understand a technical explanation anyway.
I'm guessing that you're a little paranoid about web sites that use active-x, and vbs - keep in mind that the functionality those provide can also be acheived by other means. And once you connect your computer to the internet, you have no security (If you think you're secure just because you're sitting behind a firewall then you are sadly mistaken). Locks only keep honest people honest - they don't keep dishonest people out, they just make it more work for them.
I apologize for jumping on you like that - your comments struck a nerve. I'm not a lotto player using computers as a hobby, I'm an old computer professional (I'm currently maintaining around 50 web servers, assorted other servers, firewalls and lan / wan infrastructure - I've been involved in the development of so many web sites I've lost count) who has the lotto as a hobby.
Thank you for your efforts, if you are still unable to pull up the site let me know so we can figure out the problem.
Brad
Member
Thanks! You're a quick SpidyTarantula said:
... Although I swore not to play this friggin BC49 since they doubled the ticket price in June last year, it'll be interesting to watch your forecasts. Heh, I may even splurge and put down a buck or three, although I know almost for certain that action will bring down the wrath of a certain Snake I know ... so to pre-empt I'll call it grudge gambling or get-evenitis
Cheers
PS sometimes I too have trouble getting onto your site. But remembering your initial posts re: development, etc. when I come back to it later it usually works ok.
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Tarantula said:
Hehe problem is that Sisal doesn't provide any results in an easy computer readable format for SuperEnalotto (6+B/90)...
The main page is here!
History here!
If you want I can send you a text file with the history in csv format....
Take my word for it, this is a very difficult game
Now you methods might be useful in the 5/90 game where one can bet only for 2/2 or 3/3 out of 5/90!
You can get a zip file with an access database for this one
here!
Search around for some posts of mine explaining the game... I usually play the Rome wheel (Routa = 'RM'), as in the other case if you want I can give a text file with the history in csv format!
About the website... it's just plain normal! My firefox didn't complain one bit about it... probably not rendering like it was planned, but it works!
veronica21
Member
Tarantula said:
Tarantula,
Do you do forecasting for Canadian Atlantic lottery ?
thank you
Nick Koutras
Member
Tarantula said:
My comments about your site were mild at least.
I'll preseve the option to comment more when I'll be able to connect on it without permitting Active-X
Nick Koutras
Member
Can you please answer the question.
What is the relationship between:
weblotto.org
and
web-spinners.com
(12.169.127.120)
and
http://www-ss.com/tutorials/hosts.htm
What is the relationship between:
weblotto.org
and
web-spinners.com
(12.169.127.120)
and
http://www-ss.com/tutorials/hosts.htm
How do you load your Wheels?
Tarantula,
I can't find a logical explanation as to how you load some of your wheels with the numbers you forecast. Surely if you have a ranked list of forecasted numbers, with the most probable being at the top of the list, then you should load a wheel starting with numbers from the top of the list? With some wheels you are also loading from the bottom or middle of the list.
With the South Africa Lottery you are forecasting with a total of 82 wheels which include a total of 2605 combinations. Thats an awful lot of tickets for only 1 x '3' match (Last Draw result). I am sure some of the experts around here could replace all these wheels with one wheel of 2605 lines which will yield much better results.
Cheers,
BushHappy
Tarantula,
I can't find a logical explanation as to how you load some of your wheels with the numbers you forecast. Surely if you have a ranked list of forecasted numbers, with the most probable being at the top of the list, then you should load a wheel starting with numbers from the top of the list? With some wheels you are also loading from the bottom or middle of the list.
With the South Africa Lottery you are forecasting with a total of 82 wheels which include a total of 2605 combinations. Thats an awful lot of tickets for only 1 x '3' match (Last Draw result). I am sure some of the experts around here could replace all these wheels with one wheel of 2605 lines which will yield much better results.
Cheers,
BushHappy
Brad
Member
Tarantula,
your first forecast for BC49 did well yesterday (note 28 was the Bonus no.),
35, 29, 27, 25, 31, 28, 30, 26, 33, 3, 36, 41, 47, 49, 11, 7, 32, 43, 45, 46, 8, 48, 34, 4, 42, 2, 21, 5, 1, 6, 44, 9, 10, 37, 38, 39, 19, 20, 40, 12, 17, 23, 13, 22, 14, 15, 24, 18, 16
That's a 3+B/6 or a 5+B/18. I had a quick look at the first 11 wheels (win/cost):
-- 10/1 <-- just playing the first 6 preds
2. 20/8
4. 35/6
5. 75/42
6. 05/5
7. 30/21
8. 15/15
9. 10/14
10. 90/50
11. 105/33
12. 15/10
13. 145/20
So Wheel-9 lost $4, Wheels-6,8 broke even, and the rest made $$ ... not too shabby
My Q is: do you check all your wheels after each draw?
Btw, I played wheel 6 ... wish I played lucky #13
your first forecast for BC49 did well yesterday (note 28 was the Bonus no.),
35, 29, 27, 25, 31, 28, 30, 26, 33, 3, 36, 41, 47, 49, 11, 7, 32, 43, 45, 46, 8, 48, 34, 4, 42, 2, 21, 5, 1, 6, 44, 9, 10, 37, 38, 39, 19, 20, 40, 12, 17, 23, 13, 22, 14, 15, 24, 18, 16
That's a 3+B/6 or a 5+B/18. I had a quick look at the first 11 wheels (win/cost):
-- 10/1 <-- just playing the first 6 preds
2. 20/8
4. 35/6
5. 75/42
6. 05/5
7. 30/21
8. 15/15
9. 10/14
10. 90/50
11. 105/33
12. 15/10
13. 145/20
So Wheel-9 lost $4, Wheels-6,8 broke even, and the rest made $$ ... not too shabby
My Q is: do you check all your wheels after each draw?
Btw, I played wheel 6 ... wish I played lucky #13
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Veronica21,
I am not currently forecasting the Atlantic 49 but I will add it sometime this weekend for you.
Thornc,
I'll add the Italian lottos, but I am going to wait until I correct some issues my program is having with data retrieval from the lotto sites - probably about 10 days or so depending ...
Nick,
Yes your comments were mild - the problem with text communications is that you can't always tell if someone is poking you in the side with their finger, or clobbering you over the head with a baseball bat - that's why I included an apology in my response.
As a favor to me would you temporarily allow Active-X and see if you can pull up the site? Maybe there is a setting somewhere on the server that I need to change, although I assure you that there is no Active-X or VBS used on the site.
WebLottrg and Web-Spinners.Com are both domain names owned by Web Spinners, L.L.C. a US company that I am titled Vice President, Secretary, and General Partner - currently I'm essentially on a "leave of absence" out in the middle of nowhere taking care of family issues, although I still do work remotely for the company I'm not physically there to do everything I was doing.
www-ss.com - I have no knowledge of, although I followed the link and read some of the information - it's an interesting workaround for popups, I don't think it's really a valid solution (from what little I read anyway).
I originally purchased WebLottrg years ago. I setup a web site where I was going to charge people to view my analysis of the lotteries, choose their own numbers, put them in wheels, check results, print playslips, etc. There was no real interest in that site I guess I was expecting people to do too much work themselves.
About 6 months ago I started working on a program called the Paydown Predictor (never released but it still runs on my computer) which was specifically for the 5/44 lottery that I play here - I was somewhat happy with my results although I felt there was more I could do to improve the predictions. I also felt that what I was doing could be applied to any lottery, so the Lottery Forecaster was born, now my program works with any lottery (although I still have a lot of work to do to improve the forecasts) - due to the nature of the program (it actually runs interpreted not compiled), it will probably never be available to the public (I actually change the code for the data retrieval several times a day due to the changing of the sites I get data from). I still have a lot of work to do on the forecasting side of things as well as I want to add more wheels. I decided to make the data generated available to the public, and get some feedback so I took down the original Weblottrg and put up a few simple pages to show the contents of my database to anyone who was interested - that's how I ended up here, I didn't want to market the site and generate lots of traffic - I just wanted some feedback on the presentation of the data and the quality of the forecasts. I can add any lottery and it takes me about 1 - 2 hours depending on the web site I get the data from and the amount of past drawing data available.
Also, I determined that most people wouldn't want to pay for something like this up front, so I made it simple and put up a page that said send me $1, or if you win using my forecasts, send me something more ...
My attitude on the forecasts is that they are better than playing random numbers (that's why I include the random number generation - for comparison), and that I can't do any worse than the weatherman at forecasting ...
I'm more than happy to answer any questions about the site or the program, just let me know.
BushHappy,
Wheel loading (an area I need to do work on) for the most part it simply takes the numbers from my forecast and slaps them in with no priority given to any particular number but it does take into account the "shuffle" that I mention depending on the amount of numbers used in the wheels. There should be no situations where the numbers are taken from the middle of the forecast it should always be from either the front, or from the front and back.
I don't make a big single wheel because who is going to play 2506 tickets? The goal is to come up with a forecast that can fit into a small system that a single person could afford to play, larger systems are mainly included for groups of players pooling their money and for my ability to compare and see if the larger systems are worth while. Keep in mind that my original goal was to hit 3/5 frequently, 4/5 occasionally, and 5/5 if I get lucky - I'm still not quite where I want to be, but I am working on it (on a pick 6 you can translate to 4/6, 5/6, and 6/6).
I also have several books that contain some off the wall wheel systems that I want to add, but haven't had the time yet. I also have found "Covermaster" since I started posting here and will be generating more wheel systems to add and experiment with.
Brad,
I find myself in the same situation many times - wishing I had played the other system - I've missed 4/5 at least 6 times because I played the wrong system, or chose not to play that drawing.
Thanks everyone for the responses.
I am not currently forecasting the Atlantic 49 but I will add it sometime this weekend for you.
Thornc,
I'll add the Italian lottos, but I am going to wait until I correct some issues my program is having with data retrieval from the lotto sites - probably about 10 days or so depending ...
Nick,
Yes your comments were mild - the problem with text communications is that you can't always tell if someone is poking you in the side with their finger, or clobbering you over the head with a baseball bat - that's why I included an apology in my response.
As a favor to me would you temporarily allow Active-X and see if you can pull up the site? Maybe there is a setting somewhere on the server that I need to change, although I assure you that there is no Active-X or VBS used on the site.
WebLott
rg and Web-Spinners.Com are both domain names owned by Web Spinners, L.L.C. a US company that I am titled Vice President, Secretary, and General Partner - currently I'm essentially on a "leave of absence" out in the middle of nowhere taking care of family issues, although I still do work remotely for the company I'm not physically there to do everything I was doing.www-ss.com - I have no knowledge of, although I followed the link and read some of the information - it's an interesting workaround for popups, I don't think it's really a valid solution (from what little I read anyway).
I originally purchased WebLott
rg years ago. I setup a web site where I was going to charge people to view my analysis of the lotteries, choose their own numbers, put them in wheels, check results, print playslips, etc. There was no real interest in that site I guess I was expecting people to do too much work themselves.About 6 months ago I started working on a program called the Paydown Predictor (never released but it still runs on my computer) which was specifically for the 5/44 lottery that I play here - I was somewhat happy with my results although I felt there was more I could do to improve the predictions. I also felt that what I was doing could be applied to any lottery, so the Lottery Forecaster was born, now my program works with any lottery (although I still have a lot of work to do to improve the forecasts) - due to the nature of the program (it actually runs interpreted not compiled), it will probably never be available to the public (I actually change the code for the data retrieval several times a day due to the changing of the sites I get data from). I still have a lot of work to do on the forecasting side of things as well as I want to add more wheels. I decided to make the data generated available to the public, and get some feedback so I took down the original Weblott
rg and put up a few simple pages to show the contents of my database to anyone who was interested - that's how I ended up here, I didn't want to market the site and generate lots of traffic - I just wanted some feedback on the presentation of the data and the quality of the forecasts. I can add any lottery and it takes me about 1 - 2 hours depending on the web site I get the data from and the amount of past drawing data available.Also, I determined that most people wouldn't want to pay for something like this up front, so I made it simple and put up a page that said send me $1, or if you win using my forecasts, send me something more ...
My attitude on the forecasts is that they are better than playing random numbers (that's why I include the random number generation - for comparison), and that I can't do any worse than the weatherman at forecasting ...
I'm more than happy to answer any questions about the site or the program, just let me know.
BushHappy,
Wheel loading (an area I need to do work on) for the most part it simply takes the numbers from my forecast and slaps them in with no priority given to any particular number but it does take into account the "shuffle" that I mention depending on the amount of numbers used in the wheels. There should be no situations where the numbers are taken from the middle of the forecast it should always be from either the front, or from the front and back.
I don't make a big single wheel because who is going to play 2506 tickets? The goal is to come up with a forecast that can fit into a small system that a single person could afford to play, larger systems are mainly included for groups of players pooling their money and for my ability to compare and see if the larger systems are worth while. Keep in mind that my original goal was to hit 3/5 frequently, 4/5 occasionally, and 5/5 if I get lucky - I'm still not quite where I want to be, but I am working on it (on a pick 6 you can translate to 4/6, 5/6, and 6/6).
I also have several books that contain some off the wall wheel systems that I want to add, but haven't had the time yet. I also have found "Covermaster" since I started posting here and will be generating more wheel systems to add and experiment with.
Brad,
I find myself in the same situation many times - wishing I had played the other system - I've missed 4/5 at least 6 times because I played the wrong system, or chose not to play that drawing.
Thanks everyone for the responses.
Re: Success!!!
Many peopleMUSTplay bigger lotteries in order to play and try luck in anything better than pick3, since pick4 and 5/xx are not available, despite such lotteries would have a lot of players.....For a game where a player can't choose numbers I can't say it's a lottery game..That's something like those money wasting scratch tickets...
Tarantula said:
Many peopleMUSTplay bigger lotteries in order to play and try luck in anything better than pick3, since pick4 and 5/xx are not available, despite such lotteries would have a lot of players.....For a game where a player can't choose numbers I can't say it's a lottery game..That's something like those money wasting scratch tickets...
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Re: Am I impatient ... or what?!
Have you seen any JP's there so far? I checked some time ago, and it seemed there were no JP winers for a looong time..something since July 2004?
....wonder how someone didn't hit in let's say 20 draws by an accident if nothing else...
Brad said:that 5+B woulda been worth $75K
Have you seen any JP's there so far? I checked some time ago, and it seemed there were no JP winers for a looong time..something since July 2004?
....wonder how someone didn't hit in let's say 20 draws by an accident if nothing else...
Brad
Member
Re: Re: Am I impatient ... or what?!
My guess is not many ppl play the BC49 anymore, I didn't till yesterday, hehe. BCLC's annual report is due out in March so that will confirm (disprove?) my guessing ...
Cheers
Since BCLC doubled the ticket price the JP was only won 3 times, last one went July 17/04 ... that's about 50 draws ago. The second prize, $75K/5+B, goes about once a month (as per Sympatico).tomtom said:Have you seen any JP's there so far? I checked some time ago, and it seemed there were no JP winers for a looong time..something since July 2004?
My guess is not many ppl play the BC49 anymore, I didn't till yesterday, hehe. BCLC's annual report is due out in March so that will confirm (disprove?) my guessing ...
Cheers