Any New Filters Anyone?

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W Kaenzig

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col a and col b

2 178,365 - - -
3 326,370 15,180
4 446,985 42,570
5 543,004 79,464
6 617,050 123,410
7 671,580 172,200
8 708,890 223,860
9 731,120 276,640
10 740,259 329,004
11 738,150 379,620
12 726,495 427,350
13 706,860 471,240
14 680,680 510,510
15 649,264 544,544
16 613,800 572,880
17 575,360 595,200
18 534,905 611,320
19 493,290 621,180
20 451,269 624,834
21 409,500 622,440
22 368,550 614,250
23 328,900 600,600
24 290,950 581,900
25 255,024 558,624
I'm sending these before I run out of time. Next post continued W.
 
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W Kaenzig

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col b and col c continued

26 221,375 531,300
27 190,190 500,500
28 161,595 466,830
29 135,660 430,920
30 112,404 393,414
31 91,800 354,960
32 73,780 316,200
33 58,240 277,760
34 45,045 240,240
35 34,034 204,204
36 25,025 170,170
37 17,820 138,600
38 12,210 109,890
39 7,980 84,360
40 4,914 62,244
41 2,800 43,680
42 1,435 28,700
43 630 17,220
44 215 9,030
45 44 3,784
46 ---- 990
47 ---- ---
48 ---- ---
49 --- ---

If I've entered these quantities correctly, each column should total 13,983,816. --- Odds of the game. W
 
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ShytKicker

Member
I am new to lottos, but I have my own theories on how to filter, and possibly how the lottery really works in the United States atleast. First off, I play a 5/39 lottery. So I have 39 numbers, and I pick 5 of those.

One way I found to reduce odds was using the odd/even method. I noticed that the first ball drawn has a better chance of being an odd number, hence there are 20 odd balls, and 19 even. So I came to a conclusion, that it is best to pick 3 odd numbers and 2 even numbers. Looks like past winning numbers, have a 3 odd/2 even lead as well.

On top of that, I noticed another thing. When I went to my official website for lottery (nylottery.org), I noticed that they mentioned the fact that they use "new" balls every 2 months for my lottery game. This made me wonder, can there be something with the balls that causes them to do this? For example, maybe 1 ball is lighter than others, which causes it to be drawn more oftenly, hence why they replace balls with new balls every few months.

I also noticed that this month they switched the balls, we only had 3 days, which is not enough to determine anything, but it looks like for the last 3 days, 20's and 30's have had heavily been drawn, and last 3 days, same balls have been drawn with the exception of a few, which further makes me wonder if all the balls have equal weight, etc, hence why they switch the balls every 2 months.

Do you guys also think that the lottery drawings may be pre-recorded? I talked to a few relatives, and they think that it is pre-recorded, hence why they don't use past winning numbers, because I am sure many people do use past winning numbers, just like in stocks. See people that don't take this as seriously as we do, use past winning numbers, thinking they will win with them, we know, that we shouldn't use past winning numbers, even though I doubted this theory a couple of posts ago.

My biggest theory right now is following the odd/even trend.
 
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W Kaenzig

Member
thinking

You are thinking. Which is good. However, most, if not all, about which you speak has already been shown on previous posts. Read more posts and learn some more. Even though ALL possibilities are random, there does exist certain finiteness to various smaller combos. This is what everyone is searching for. -- A way to reduce these limitations. Certified Public Accountants are always present when balls are drawn from a machine. They do this to make sure fairness is present.
The reason balls are changed periodically, is that each ball is weighed and must meet a very small tolerance. The balls are changed periodically, as dents, scratches, etc can occur. W
 
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W Kaenzig

Member
odds

On the back of your lotto slip, or somewhere else, does it say that the odds of matching 5 of 39 is 1 to 575,757. Perhaps, they use approximate, -- maybe 1 to 576,000 ? This is the key to understanding any aspect of lotto, -- how to figure the odds.
In this case, the highest 5, (35x36x37x38x39) divided by (1x2x3x4x5) gives one the odds for all possibilities. The number 10 will occur the same amount of times in the lowest position 575,757 in any game of 6/49. W
 
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ShytKicker

Member
The number of combinations possible, (39*38*37*35*34). I thought it would be 69 million possible combinations, and one of those is the jackpot combination. Howcome you are dividing that by 5*4*3*2*1? I failed math. Completely. Lol.
 
W

W Kaenzig

Member
sequential numbers

When one deals with any situation where sequential numbers are involved, one can solve any question using simple math. Sometimes the concepts, or thought processes get complicated, but the math involved stays the same. Say you have 2 nrs of 10. List them and look at them:
You can start with 1 and 2 and go up by 1, the next would 1 3, all the way to 9 10. You list will include only 45 possibilities.
(9x10) divided by (1x2) = 45. This concept of math works for any small or large combination.
I used 5 earlier as there are 5 positions to consider. W
 
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ShytKicker

Member
You're right, the Math Doctor was wrong, I was forgetting to eliminate the same numbers that are written in a different order, since the lottery has no special sequence. Therefore in a 2/5 game it's not 5*4 which equals 20, except it is 10 combinations. Since 1-3 is same as 3-1.
 
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W Kaenzig

Member
ok

3 and 1 when put in numerical order is 1 and 3. You are right.

Now, understand this:
The following breakdown of odds and evens for the NY game of 5/39:


3 odd 2 even = 194,940
2 odd 3 even = 184,110
4 odd 1 even = 92,055
4 even 1 odd = 77,520
5 odd only = 15,504
5 even only = 11,628

Add these up and you should get 575,757 W
 
W

W Kaenzig

Member
interesting find?

I didn't find those figures anywhere. I calculated them. Ask yourself questions and you will come with the answers. W
 
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ShytKicker

Member
Certified Public Accountants are always present when balls are drawn from a machine.
Click to expand...

If that is true, and the games are 100% fair, then there is no such thing as looking at past drawings to reduce odds.

But, I don't think these "certified" people, actually are fair, I'm sure they are paid off, etc. And I am 100% sure balls do get scratched, have a small weight difference, get dents. That is why I look at past drawings. Therefore, if a number is hot for x amount of days, you should continue to use it. But once again, if these certified people are paid off, then they can use any numbers for the drawings that they want. Once again, don't let the media/news get to you. There are millions of scams going on in America, 1 "certified" person that checks to make sure the draws are fair is most likely one of them.
 
Brad

Brad

Member
HOW STUFF WORKS

Here's a neat site that explains in simple terms many aspects of lotteries. From odds to ball machines, payouts, taxes, etc. ... and even gives a recount of a scheme to fix the Pennsylvania Daily back in 1980.

Just scroll/click on the subject of interest in the Table of Contents.


Cheers
 
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W Kaenzig

Member
That's a great site, Brad. To me, it proves that lotto officials do have ways of suspecting fraud, and over time, prove it. That was 25 years ago, and I confident many, many other ways are used today to keep things honest. Let's feel better and more confident that all 6/49 games are fair. And another person can verify a few things:

Kosteczki, are you out there? Would you do something for me?
I say that in the 2nd position, that 5 shows up 3.883% of the time, in the 3rd position, 10 shows up 2.353% of the time, and in the 4th position 19 shows up 2.538% of the time. You can determine this by taking your database of 16,000+ and adding each of those 3 numbers and dividing by your nr of draws.
Waddaya say? Can, or will you do it? Let us know, please W
 
K

kosteczki

Member
I am at work right now I will get back to you in about 2 or 3 hours with the results.

I wish I wasn't 23 and having another 37 years of work in front of me, you must feel good about being retired now.
 
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