ShytKicker
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If anything fraud has went up from 25 years ago.
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W Kaenzig
out of the 15,487 draws I currently have here is the results to your question.
5 has shown up in the secon position 595 times
that's 3.84% of the time (you where close)
10 shows up in the third position 364 times
that's 2.350% of the time (right on the money)
19 shows up in the forth position 401 times
that's 2.589% of the time.
ShytKicker
IMO I proved to myself there is no fraud (or very little) going on in the legit lottos as the results of almost 16k lotto draws from all over the world combined show each and every number has hit right on or very very close to 2.04% of the time. Which is the average amount of times it should hit with all these lottos combined fake draws would throw off the average.
out of the 15,487 draws I currently have here is the results to your question.
5 has shown up in the secon position 595 times
that's 3.84% of the time (you where close)
10 shows up in the third position 364 times
that's 2.350% of the time (right on the money)
19 shows up in the forth position 401 times
that's 2.589% of the time.
ShytKicker
IMO I proved to myself there is no fraud (or very little) going on in the legit lottos as the results of almost 16k lotto draws from all over the world combined show each and every number has hit right on or very very close to 2.04% of the time. Which is the average amount of times it should hit with all these lottos combined fake draws would throw off the average.
That story goes to show how our natural greed is our downfall in the end.
All they had to do is purchase a few tickets each draw, and no one would have been suspicious.
and put in 3 or 4 numbers that would be icked instead of the 2
I rather win an extra $1000 a draw for the next year than get busted trying to win that $1.8 million
All they had to do is purchase a few tickets each draw, and no one would have been suspicious.
and put in 3 or 4 numbers that would be icked instead of the 2
I rather win an extra $1000 a draw for the next year than get busted trying to win that $1.8 million
ShytKicker
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If there is no fraud, how can you POSSIBLY analyze past winning numbers? Past numbers have NO influence on the current numbers. They have NO influence, once again. It is 100% random, unless there is fraud, or something wrong with the balls in the machine, or the machine.
Powaznie mowie, wytlumacz mi jak past numery maja wogole cos spolnego z tymi numerami co losuja sie teraz. Ty nie rozumiesz, tak samo jak ten drugi, jak nie ma przekrentu, to nie maja stare numery nic spolnego z CURRENT LOTTERY DRAWINGS. Just listen, there are two and ONLY two reasons why certain numbers may appear more than others.
1) It is fixed.
2) Take a quarter for example, there is a 50-50 chance that it will land on heads/tails when flipped. THIS DOES NOT MEAN that it will always be 50-50 when you flip the quarter 10 times. If you take a quarter, and flip it 10 times, it may land on heads 10 times, on tails 0. On heads 3 times, tails 7. The LOGICAL probabilty of it landing on heads/tails is 50-50. But there is NO SUCH THING as analyzing data on RANDOM numbers. There IS NO SUCH THING, UNLESS you are cheating. Then you are going to step #1, and it is fixed, then you base your numbers on past data, since you have a good feeling it is fixed. I know it is fixed, I am 100% sure it is fixed, there is no DOUBT in my mind lotteries are fixed. Otherwise, they wouldn't have enough money giving out the jackpot to every single person that plays a mega million game.
What we are doing is gambling. What they are doing is BUSINESS. If they wouldn't have a fix, then they wouldn't have a business, they would also have a "gamble". Right now, if you don't believe in a fix, then you are 100% WASTING your time looking at past data. Let me just tell you, you are completely wasting time.
Sorry to say it harshly, that is reality, business, and gambling.
negative
If you feel so negative about it, why are you here? You've only confirmed a previous suspicion I mentioned in an earlier post. I know now that you are more than you pretend.
Doing a thesis, maybe, some other type of work?
I won't be responding to any more of your posts. W
If you feel so negative about it, why are you here? You've only confirmed a previous suspicion I mentioned in an earlier post. I know now that you are more than you pretend.
Doing a thesis, maybe, some other type of work?
I won't be responding to any more of your posts. W
ShytKicker
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Look, I'm here because I have a belief that it is fixed, therefore I have a reason to look at past numbers. You have no reason to look at past numbers. Tell me, WHY do you look at past numbers? If there is nothing fixed, yesterday's lottery drawing has nothing to do with today's. This is simple common sense, it doesn't require 20 years of studying lotteries to figure this out. You depend on past data, to filter data right? Tell me then, why do you depend on this data? If you can explain this, then I will understand your point, other than that, you have no point, and no strategy. You are basically wasting time filtering unnecessary numbers. I'm not here to bs man, to understand this part is very very simple. If you are under the impression that drawings are fixed, like I am, then I have something to rely on, maybe #1 and #2 are VERY hot numbers, maybe because the average joe doesn't choose these numbers, since they are right on teh beginning, and the lottery is fixed, and the machine chooses the numbers that are least often submitted. Think about it. Because that is my theory. Everybody chooses numbers smack in the middle of 20's, maybe that is why many 20's in my lottery are extremely cold.
I am telling you what I think, actually what I know. You are just saying that you can filter data on past numbers, and coming up with all these algorithyms, solutions, theories, but what good are these if they have nothing in common with tomorrows drawings, if "the lottery is not fixed". Explain that to me. Explain to me how these past numbers have anything to do with tomorrows drawings. Don't tell me about hot/cold numbers, and your filters, just tell me the exact reason why past data has anything to do with tomorrows RANDOM data.
That's if you want to reply to an educated post.
I am telling you what I think, actually what I know. You are just saying that you can filter data on past numbers, and coming up with all these algorithyms, solutions, theories, but what good are these if they have nothing in common with tomorrows drawings, if "the lottery is not fixed". Explain that to me. Explain to me how these past numbers have anything to do with tomorrows drawings. Don't tell me about hot/cold numbers, and your filters, just tell me the exact reason why past data has anything to do with tomorrows RANDOM data.
That's if you want to reply to an educated post.
Brad
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here we go again ...
Hmmm ... that is a very strong statement to make. If you are that sure you must have a rock-solid proof of criminal activity. If that is the case why don't you formally accuse a Lotto Corporation (or all of them) and start a court case against them? Maybe you can win more money in a settlement than by winning a JackPot ...
Your argument (I paraphrase) that 'because the lotto is fixed allows you to better predict it' doesn't make any sense at all. If the ball draws were to be manipulated then you couldn't possibly know when and which balls were tampered with ...
With odds the way they are the Lotto Corps don't need to fix the draws to make a profit. They can increase their take by making the odds tougher, like by doubling the price for one ticket for example.
Look around this BB and see how many ppl share your opinion, I haven't seen too many. Kaenzig asked the right question "why are you here?" This is a pro-lotto BB and not only is your post misplaced (off topic) but you won't get much support for your opinion.
You have a right to think what you want but I politely suggest you find another BB where ppl agree with you because most here probably will not. I don't blame W. K. for putting you on ignore, I'm inclined to do the same.
Btw, posting in Polish on an English speaking BB doesn't make much sense either ...
ShytKicker said:
Hmmm ... that is a very strong statement to make. If you are that sure you must have a rock-solid proof of criminal activity. If that is the case why don't you formally accuse a Lotto Corporation (or all of them) and start a court case against them? Maybe you can win more money in a settlement than by winning a JackPot ...
Your argument (I paraphrase) that 'because the lotto is fixed allows you to better predict it' doesn't make any sense at all. If the ball draws were to be manipulated then you couldn't possibly know when and which balls were tampered with ...
With odds the way they are the Lotto Corps don't need to fix the draws to make a profit. They can increase their take by making the odds tougher, like by doubling the price for one ticket for example.
Look around this BB and see how many ppl share your opinion, I haven't seen too many. Kaenzig asked the right question "why are you here?" This is a pro-lotto BB and not only is your post misplaced (off topic) but you won't get much support for your opinion.
You have a right to think what you want but I politely suggest you find another BB where ppl agree with you because most here probably will not. I don't blame W. K. for putting you on ignore, I'm inclined to do the same.
Btw, posting in Polish on an English speaking BB doesn't make much sense either ...
ShytKicker
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Lol this is funny. You guys THINK you are pro-lotto? You sound like a bunch of losers that think they can crack Black Jack in Vegas. Please, you guys look at past numbers, but have absolutely 0 god damn idea why you look at them. Here, flip a coin 4 times. Tell me what you get. Do that 20 times. If you get 3 heads, and 1 tail, that MUST mean that heads is the HOT side, yes, I guess if a quarter would be a lotto game, you would all bet HEADS ALL THE TIME!
That is how professional you guys sound. Hilarious. Bye.
That is how professional you guys sound. Hilarious. Bye.
ShytKicker
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Still haven't answered the original question, "Why do you look at past winning numbers?". But good that you didn't answer that, you know why, because there is no answer. And I'm sure deep down inside, you know this, but you just don't want to admit to it. Truth hurts.
Brad, alot of talk, not much of the walk.
Brad, alot of talk, not much of the walk.
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ShytKicker
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Wrong answer! You just lost $5 in ShytKicker's Lotto. Try again.
ShytKicker
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Was that an answer? If so, wrong again. Come on guys, you started out with $40 dollars in your pockets, you already used $10. You guys are down to $30. Use one of your filters!
ShytKicker
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$25.
Actually $20 since you answered incorrectly twice. Should've filtered that.
Actually $20 since you answered incorrectly twice. Should've filtered that.
I don't understand your reasoning for writing in Polish? You trying to tell me something?
If answering your question will shut you up, then I look at past numbers to help prouve certain probabilities true.
here is one more reason for you why looking at the past numbers you can see some come up more than others. Because lotto is random, and you are right past outcomes don't guarantee future results. Doesn't mean it's rigged.
The numbers are drawn randomnly and some will get picked more than others, and this slowly changes and jumps from a certain number being popular one year and another in another year. because it is random. but in the end, I would bet almost anything on this, the amount of times each number is played balances it's self out or gets close.
Canadian 649 having only 2265 draws will have variences like it does (15 (275 hits) being picked soooo many less times than let's say 31 (364 times) but then you look at the last 16,000 draws combining 649 draws all around the world. 15 has hit 1815
times and 31 2003 times.
First example there is a difference of 0.71% between the 2
second example a difference of 0.21% between the 2
(Based on the amount of times a number hits per amount of numbers drawn)
all that to show a theory based on probability that all numbers have an equal chance of being drawn.
that's only becuase in 6/49 there are 49 numbers and there are always 49 numbers.
but look at something different.
out of the 14million (just under) combinations
there are 177,100 combinations possible where all 6 numbers are odd. so would you say that the chances of a combination having ods and evens is just as likely to occur as that having all odds? hell no it will happen a lot more times.
So again you can use past historical results to try and prouve it right. But you can figure that one out on your own.
Smart theories are created based on probabilities of certain things happening, you use past draws to prouve those theories correct, or incorrect.
Next time you start assuming in what people believe and then throwing your beliefs in saying they are better, think it over. You may not be correct, or at least there can be more to your belief than you are aware of. This is why we have wars and hate crime, no one is willing to listen to both sides, but always willing to argue their side is better. Running your mouth the way you have just adds to the wrong doings in society and is destructive in general.
Stop harrasing everyone, and if you are so sure that the lotto is rigged, well prouve it. I would really like to see. It's just another way to prouve my theories either right or wrong.
If answering your question will shut you up, then I look at past numbers to help prouve certain probabilities true.
here is one more reason for you why looking at the past numbers you can see some come up more than others. Because lotto is random, and you are right past outcomes don't guarantee future results. Doesn't mean it's rigged.
The numbers are drawn randomnly and some will get picked more than others, and this slowly changes and jumps from a certain number being popular one year and another in another year. because it is random. but in the end, I would bet almost anything on this, the amount of times each number is played balances it's self out or gets close.
Canadian 649 having only 2265 draws will have variences like it does (15 (275 hits) being picked soooo many less times than let's say 31 (364 times) but then you look at the last 16,000 draws combining 649 draws all around the world. 15 has hit 1815
times and 31 2003 times.
First example there is a difference of 0.71% between the 2
second example a difference of 0.21% between the 2
(Based on the amount of times a number hits per amount of numbers drawn)
all that to show a theory based on probability that all numbers have an equal chance of being drawn.
that's only becuase in 6/49 there are 49 numbers and there are always 49 numbers.
but look at something different.
out of the 14million (just under) combinations
there are 177,100 combinations possible where all 6 numbers are odd. so would you say that the chances of a combination having ods and evens is just as likely to occur as that having all odds? hell no it will happen a lot more times.
So again you can use past historical results to try and prouve it right. But you can figure that one out on your own.
Smart theories are created based on probabilities of certain things happening, you use past draws to prouve those theories correct, or incorrect.
Next time you start assuming in what people believe and then throwing your beliefs in saying they are better, think it over. You may not be correct, or at least there can be more to your belief than you are aware of. This is why we have wars and hate crime, no one is willing to listen to both sides, but always willing to argue their side is better. Running your mouth the way you have just adds to the wrong doings in society and is destructive in general.
Stop harrasing everyone, and if you are so sure that the lotto is rigged, well prouve it. I would really like to see. It's just another way to prouve my theories either right or wrong.
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ShytKicker
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Yes, odd/even numbers are a good way to filter, and I've already posted that many times on this forum. That is because in a 49 game lottery, there are 25 odd and 24 even. And it makes sense to choose 3 odd and 3 even for most of the games.
Now what the hell does using odd/even numbers have anything to do with looking at past drawings? You should know that you have to use 3 even 3 odd off the back of the hand, without looking at past drawings. Ofcoarse past drawings are going to lead in 3odd/3 even, that's because it is the bigger probability, this is something you CAN calculate.
But discarding already used combinations, and using other filters is 100% POINTLESS, WASTE OF TIME. You are not understanding it. It is like flipping a coin 4 times. It will not always guarantee to land 2 times on head and 2 times on tails. You're not going to look at past data for a coin to determine what the next flip may be.
All I have to say is...WOW.
Read: http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/52734.html
Read: http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/56125.html
Read: http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/62485.html
Must read above one.
Now what the hell does using odd/even numbers have anything to do with looking at past drawings? You should know that you have to use 3 even 3 odd off the back of the hand, without looking at past drawings. Ofcoarse past drawings are going to lead in 3odd/3 even, that's because it is the bigger probability, this is something you CAN calculate.
But discarding already used combinations, and using other filters is 100% POINTLESS, WASTE OF TIME. You are not understanding it. It is like flipping a coin 4 times. It will not always guarantee to land 2 times on head and 2 times on tails. You're not going to look at past data for a coin to determine what the next flip may be.
All I have to say is...WOW.
Read: http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/52734.html
Read: http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/56125.html
Read: http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/62485.html
On the next drawing day for the lottery, ALL the tickets are replaced.
Each lottery draw is an event independent of the others. That is to
say, the probability of any combination winning today has absolutely
NO effect on the probability of that or any other combination winning
tomorrow. Each and every draw is totally independent of the others.
The reason your friend believes that he has a better chance of winning
with the same set of numbers is probably due to something called the
"gambler's fallacy." This idea is that the longer the lottery goes
without your friend's "special" set of numbers coming up, the more
likely it is to come up in the future. The same fallacy is believed by
a lot of people about slot machines in gambling casinos. They hunt for
which slot hasn't paid in a while, thinking that that slot is more
likely to pay out. But, as the name says, this is a fallacy; pure
nonsense. A pull of the slot machine's handle, like the lottery draw,
is completely independent of previous pulls. The slot machine has no
memory of what has come before, and neither has the lottery. You might
play a slot machine for 2 weeks without hitting the big jackpot, and
someone else can walk in and hit it in the first 5 minutes of play.
People wrongly attribute that to "it was ready to pay out." In
reality, it's just luck. That's why they call it gambling.
Must read above one.
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