Winning numbers how there are selected

[troller]

That is not the answer

So you are saying, if you have a chance of getting mugged on the street, don't walk on that street. Well, then the criminal wins. The lottery use to be fare, now it's not, so we are to stop playing it? How about making it fair again, that way we players win?!

Don't turn a blind eye to it.. we have enough people noticing that things are not as they should be and you are saying to turn a blind eye to it and just forget what you see? Sounds like you might be one of them. I notice that you come from the Bloor street area, that is where the lottery corp is located. Maybe you are one of those cheaters... huh!?!?!??!

 

[LottoBug]

"The lottery used to be fare and now it is not?"...... because you are not winning anymore? What a crock of **** !

I'm just as tired as you are BUT I do not complain......

If I had solid proof that the OLGC really is scamming us, then I would do something like making an inquiry to THEM instead of complaining and complaining in this forum cause it would do no one any good anyhow and also because as far as OLGC is concerned you and me and countless others are just numbers.

You must be a super idiot to think that I work for them and watch this forum for people who are a perennial complainer and loser so I can report it back to them and so then they can make sure that you're numbers are not picked for the jackpot !!! Do you like that analogy?

If you're losing all the time and think that they are scamming you, then don't play.

......and YES, if you thnk the street is where the muggers are always doing their business, then why the hell would you want to walk in that street?

Quit complaining and just play or don't play. As simple as that !

 

[troller]

You argue like a punk

stop with the personal insults, makes you look bad. Stick to the issue and come out with some proof of good doing of OLGC as a lot of people are proving a lot of wrong doing. A why are you sticking up for them when everyone else seems to think that there is something going on? Hmmmm sounds like you are working for them.

I would like to know how you guys are doing with respect to your winnings?

Are the numbers you bet on the same as the ones you posted here?

Thanks

Only someone that works for a lotto corp would ask a question like that.

That is why I thought you worked for the lotto corp. What kind of question is that?



The point is that there is some fishy things going on and it all has to do with the lottery. Not our opinions. But the overall numbers being chosen and how they are chosen. Also the winners and their location. Not a personal thing, but an observation by many on this board and many other. Stick to the subject stop with the personal attacks.

 

[LottoBug]

You Act like an Idiot !

What I said before still goes..... I am not about to argue with you more than I had already as clearly you do not understand anything. I don't have time for it !

I did not say anything personal nor did I condone OLGC. I don't care about them as I don't give a damn about you. Both of you can go to hell, in my opinion....

I bet and play the lotteries. If I win (and I do constantly) then good for me. If I lose (and I have lost plently), that was my own choosing and it was my own fault as I chose the numbers.

I do not have anything against the OLGC cause it is fair game in my opinion. I do not believe that they rig the lotteries therefore I do not complain if I lose and therefore I continue to play so. And I do not work for OLGC. IF I did, there's no point of me continuing to play or bet cause I would already be rich (the way these morons are paid salaries), don't you think?

Understand?

p.s. END OF STORY..... no more replies from me

 

[peter]

First off, It is a fact, that as a condition of employment at the gaming office, you are not allowed to play any of the lottery games, I'm sure there are ways around this.
Do I think the lottery is rigged, yes, but I continue to play, because it is my choice to do so,
Lottery is gambling, if you have a problem with gambling, call 1-800 they don't give a damn. We are responsible for our own actions.
If you enjoy the lotto, then play, but play responsibly.
Just my 2 cents.

 

[Godload]

I don't think the lottery is rigged, they don't need to rig it, just the mathematical odds of winning make it almost impossible to win it. All you mathematicians out there if someone told you if you put down this money and if you beat the one in thirteen million odd you can get back a profit of 4 million fold would you take it? You don't need to rig a one in thirteen million odd chances of winning, probability will take care of itself.
As for jackpots being won in locations, I think its a basis of number of tickets sold in comparison to the population density of the area. For example just from population I would guess the majority of jackpots won would be in Ontario and Quebec just because out of 30 million in Canada your looking at probably 18 million in those two provinces.
I am not sure what the population in PEI is but I would bet the population in New Brunswick is greater than PEI therefore its more likely more people play in New Brunswick therefore they have more jackpot winners.
Have you seen Good Will Hunting, Robbin Williams is talking to a reknown math scholar about going to purchase a lottery ticket so he can win the jackpot. The math scholar tells him you have a better chance of being struck by lightning 3 times than winning the jackpot in a lottery. How many people have been struck by lightning 3 times let alone once. That is if your not walking around intentionally in a lightning storm with a graphite rod attached to your body. Not to say it doesn't happen but the odds of it happening are very very low. No need to stack a game where you have odds of 13 million or greater stacked against ya. Probability takes care of itself. Why risk a cash cow by rigging it when the consequences are so dire. Something like that would get out and then no one would play. They can make money by letting probability take care of the odds. I am sure if it was rigged people who are friends of people working at the lottery corporation or relations would be winning alot. Something like that is puts out a pattern and would cause suspicion. The temptation would be too great if it was rigged not to have friends or relations winning. Then come tax time joe smoe who works at the lottery corporation has a net worth that grows every year by hundreds of thousands. Wouldn't that be suspicious. The government would have to be very stupid to risk rigging the lotto considering the consequences would be so dire if it got out.

 

[peter]

Re: You argue like a punk

stop with the personal insults,

Troller, When I hit the jackpot, I'll send you a case of "BUG" spray, and you can disinfect Bloor Street.

 

[peter]

The government would have to be very stupid to risk rigging the lotto considering the consequences would be so dire if it got out.

Is this the same government that thought adscam would'nt happen.

 

[Karnac]

Whether or not it's the same government, it is the same Canadian public.
Perhaps Sheila Fraser should expand her mandate and focus on the Olgc and theTrillium Foundation......

 

[nipsirc]

First off, It is a fact, that as a condition of employment at the gaming office, you are not allowed to play any of the lottery games, I'm sure there are ways around this.
Do I think the lottery is rigged, yes, but I continue to play, because it is my choice to do so,
Lottery is gambling, if you have a problem with gambling, call 1-800 they don't give a damn. We are responsible for our own actions.
If you enjoy the lotto, then play, but play responsibly.
Just my 2 cents.

Now for once I agree with you 100% on this one.

If only you can be that consistent !!

 

[jillian1]

MON..I have questions to..For instance has anyone ever noticed when the jackpots reach an unbelievable high amount the results are NOT posted until MUCH ,MUCH later after the draw..Any other time OLGC will post them almost immediately on their site..I have to wonder when it is so high why would it take them that much longer to post..Like you said..Inquiring minds want to know?

 

[bro]

Speaking of delays, I noticed that lately the Keno draws results are not out until 10:30PM and sometimes at 11PM. Wow, I use to see results at 9:45-9:50PM

And, the OLGC changed all their terminals. They also changed the old 649 tickets for some reason. If you have an old ticket and try and play it, it won't work. Why? What difference is the old ticket to the new? I have yet to find out any differences other than the new ones only work!

Why have one $22 million winner when you could easily spread that out to many winners. Infact 22 winners at a million dollars each. Wouldn't this be so much more nicer? After all, in this day and age a million dollars is not enough to retire on, but it would be nice to be able to get out of debt and buy a few toys. Possibly open up a business etc...

This would make a lot more economic cents to be able to spread the wealth. I am sure the world would be a better place for it. And you always have another chance to win again. But.... not in this current environment that we live in. Unless you live someplace away from the big city!

 

[powerball]

Unfortunately, this is not true. The Canadian lottery corporations neligently let their own employees, retailers and other insiders play and win their own lotteries. Many US lotteries prohibit this obvious conflict of interest. This is why some people think that the lotteries are rigged.

I have watched the lottery draws live. It is not rigged, but just like official numbers released have not been 100.0% accurate, their draw procedures are not 100.0% cheat-proof.

First off, It is a fact, that as a condition of employment at the gaming office, you are not allowed to play any of the lottery games, I'm sure there are ways around this.
Do I think the lottery is rigged, yes,

 

[powerball]

But a few things bother me like the public can't see these draws and I believe they run tests with the machine for every draw. How many tests?? What happens if the draw fails for some reason?? How many ball sets do they have and do they use them for other lottos?? Does the draw happen in other locations??

Inquiring minds want to know

I have seen the draws live. I didn't see anybody run tests before the draws. The ball set was brought into the room, put into the drum, and an employee pushes a button to start the draw.

There is only one ball set for Lotto 6/49 and a back-up set. They occasionally measure the balls to ensure that there is no bias so it is a waste of time predicting the next draw based on previous results. Lotto 6/49 and Super 7 have separate ball sets, and are drawn only in Toronto.

 

[Brad]

<nevermind>

 

[bro]

OLGC is rigged, how else can you have the same amount of winnings for a certain number of winning picks?

For instance:
Compare the winning hands and see how many of these hands had to equal a $10 winner. It just so happens that there are always enough winners in each draw to equal enough players to win $10 if you were to split the pot equally.
RESULTS
Sat., August 13 $13,721,110.00
6 - 0 $4,036,336.00
5 + bonus - 0 $288,309.70
5 - 83 $2,869.50
4 - 5,411 $83.40
3 - 108,735 $10.00 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
2 + bonus 69,498 $5.00

Wed., August 10 $12,527,284.00
6 - 1 $3,908,736.00
5 + bonus - 6 $42,849.40
5 - 122 $1,740.80
4 - 6,135 $65.60
3 - 108,601 $10.00 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
2 + bonus - 66,113 $5.00

Sat., August 6 $14,808,826.00
6 - 1 $7,509,872.00
5 + bonus - 0 $309,380.60
5 - 118 $2,165.90
4 - 6,154 $78.70
3 - 112,779 $10.00 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
2 + bonus - 90,365 $5.00

Wed., August 3 $12,113,306.00
6 - 0 $3,178,542.00
5 + bonus - 1 $227,038.70
5 - 125 $1,500.40
4 - 7,535 $47.10
3 - 130,446 $10.00 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
2 + bonus - 88,059 $5.00

 

[mirage]

Bro,
I'm not going to inflate thread by quoting, so,
Re: stats in previous posting. I'm curious, you think there should be a bigger fluctuation between draws than what is shown? Why??

 

[GillesD]

$10 winners

bro

The number of $10 winners will vary somewhat but on the long run, it will be near the expected value as the number of tickets sold is very large and the odds for this category of winner is well known (about 1.765%). The following table gives the data for the last 10 draws: first the date of the draw, then the total sales followed by the numbers of $10. winners and the expected number of winners and finally the % difference between actual and expected.

13 / 08: $13,721,110 -- 108,735 -- 121,089 : -10.20%
10 / 08: $12,527,284 -- 108,601 -- 110,553 : -01.77%
06 / 08: $14,808,826 -- 112,719 -- 130,688 : -13.75%
03 / 08: $12,113,306 -- 130,446 -- 106,900 : +22.03%
30 / 07: $13,696,560 -- 109,117 -- 120,872 : -09.73%
27 / 08: $14,873,038 -- 125,157 -- 131,255 : -04.65%
23 / 08: $13,533,932 -- 111,484 -- 119,437 : -06.66%
20 / 07: $14,700,708 -- 137,385 -- 129,734 : +05.90%
16 / 07: $13,932,402 -- 108,278 -- 122,953 : -11.94%
13 / 07: $13,003,886 -- 128,626 -- 114,759 : +12.08%

As you can see, it does vary a bit (from +22.0% to -13.8%) but for those 10 draws, the average is -1.9%. From that, I do not see how you can say the lottery is rigged. I would say it just follows the expected odds. I would expect similar variation for the $5 winners (with 2/6 +B).

I know, I know 108,735 and 108,601 $10 winners in consecutive draws may look bizarre but then, what can you say when the same number comes out in two. three or four consecutive draws? Bizarre, rigged or simply: it is bound to happen sometimes. Even more, if you look at the whole history of Lotto 6/49 (2250 draws), I would not be surprised that you would have 2 draws with the same number of $10. winners (or at least within ±5).

 

[kosteczki]

I am off topic I know but, GillesD, do you work for OLGC???

 

[nextlotto]

Whether the lottery is rigged or not is up for debate. But based from my own experience with Canada's 6/49, it's not a very good game to play if you're trying to hit the bigger prizes. These are the facts:

1. This is a game that can be played by people employed by OLGC.

2. The drawings are not televised.

3. Many of the winners are "Anonymous"

4. The cost of each bet is too high and the winnings too low. So if you're a big player who makes many bets, the winnings do not help offset the cost.

I've studied this game quite a bit and compared it with other 6/49 games around the world. From what I can see, Canada's 6/49 game is quite different in the way it behaves and very difficult to predict. It may be because they have really good machines or it may be because someone is rigging it but in the end, you decide where you want to place your hard earned money in. A game that you believe you can win in or a game you don't. For me I don't believe in the Canadian lottery.