Winnalotto-Sangoma 2

bloubul

Member
Hi BP
Here is the last 24 draws as I'm playing 6/49 +B.
Help me please, what numbers can you get out of these lot using your methods, even if it is only 2 #'s
I wil be thankful.

2009/01/31 23 49 17 41 12 43
2009/01/28 39 33 9 13 17 44
2009/01/24 34 47 32 17 20 11
2009/01/21 39 34 10 11 37 19
2009/01/17 40 22 34 17 36 43
2009/01/14 9 24 23 11 8 12
2009/01/10 3 22 29 47 24 39
2009/01/07 7 29 40 23 27 35
2009/01/03 9 48 25 7 2 5
2008/12/31 46 11 8 10 15 37
2008/12/27 14 41 21 18 29 32
2008/12/24 48 8 32 6 36 23
2008/12/20 41 16 26 47 39 36
2008/12/17 17 26 28 32 11 20
2008/12/13 3 4 30 12 49 48
2008/12/10 41 30 21 19 46 35
2008/12/06 16 19 37 27 46 11
2008/12/03 4 29 26 8 41 5
2008/11/29 38 29 1 5 6 49
2008/11/26 24 2 22 49 29 48
2008/11/22 38 14 47 16 19 6
2008/11/19 24 16 29 45 46 11
2008/11/15 47 9 12 1 33 46
2008/11/12 7 15 47 20 13 3

Thanks in Advance

BlouBul :cool:
 

bloubul

Member
Hi BP

Please help, I'm still none the wiser with your filter, where must I add / change the values as given by you..
"If your using 6/49 then max drawings should be 24. I'd test skip1<=8,
skip2<=16, and skip3<=24. Also, Rebal Perc or #11 = 0 and Hit M Hit Perc or
#14 = 0 to reduce results. In another filter check for skip1>=16 and skip2>=16 for cold numbers that may be due."

Thanks
BlouBul :cool:
 

bloubul

Member
Hi BP / HalfBee

I went through the posts of WinnaLotto - Sangoma 2. It looks to me if you two are the most verse WinnaLotto - Sangoma 2, BP has written a filter for 6/49 "If your using 6/49 then max drawings should be 24. I'd test skip1<=8,
skip2<=16, and skip3<=24. Also, Rebal Perc or #11 = 0 and Hit M Hit Perc or
#14 = 0 to reduce results. In another filter check for skip1>=16 and skip2>=16 for cold numbers that may be due."
I'm no programmer, so I cannot duplicate this filter. Please be so good to upload it for me. Also help me with a filter, I wan't a filter to select me the numbers that would appear the least in the next draw. I can get 35 numbers, within this number the least are 4#'s, and max are all 7#'s. But 35 numbers are way to many to play with.

I thank you

BlouBul :cool:
 

HalfBee

Member
I'd like to help, but I haven't done anything with custom filters. Most of my efforts are concentrated on 5/39 game. I'm using the standard filters that come with WinnaLotto and having moderate success.
I usually start with BPMedD filter which pulls out 20-25 numbers.
Then I look at other filters like Hot/Cold, Inbetween, Draadsitters, Springboks, Struxos to see where they back up numbers from BPMedD.
I also look at the previous drawn numbers and try to find a repeater (happens often so is good to check over).
 

bloubul

Member
Hi HalfBee
Thanks for your response. Tell me how do you go about to find the repeater??
Patrick123 also told me that he could tell which number will repeat, but never tell..
I play 6/49

BlouBul :cool:
 

Patrick123

Member
Good day Ladies & Gentlemen,

Just to let you know Winnalotto is available again. An extremely high volume of downloads these last 2 months made me exceed my monthly bandwidth allowance resulting in extra costs :(

I have now re-enabled it, but have blocked off some of the advanced features without taking away the power of WinnaLotto with a small fee to enable the rest of the features if required, this will cover my bandwidth costs and allow me to continue developing & upgrading WinnaLotto for the benefit of all of us.

LT is this sounds like a commercial, please edit or delete it how you see fit :)

Regards
Patrick
 

ganbatte

Member
Welcome back Patrick.

The recent popularity of Winnalotto must have been from the record international lottery prizes available recently, including the SA Powerball lotto.

You should store Winnalotto on a cheap international server with huge bandwidth.

When you get around to it could you tell us what the differences are/will be between the Lite version and the full version.
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi ganbatte and thanks,

Most of the time, there where a number of downloads a month that never really affected my bandwidth. All of a sudden I was getting close by to 1.5GB a month purely on Winnalotto downloads... hopefully that means the program has helped some people get over the hurdle of getting six in a row :)

I've charged a fee of $24.50. This means if I get one or two upgrades a month, this will offset the bandwidth costs and also have change for a nice bottle of Chiraz or such. The main thing is it will give me an incentive to continue working on upgrading and enhancing WinnaLotto. We have the foundation laid... It is a good quality foundation and to let it stagnate and crumble makes no sense.

Basically the functionality of Column Editing, Wheel Generation, Selection manipulation (still under development), Purging, Moses and BushHappy are disabled.

Editing Data, Loading results up to Keno Size (80 balls @20 balls in a draw), Drawing Analysis with the full plethora of filters and graphs are available in the Lite Version... And if anyone sends you a filter you can also use it (just not the editing of it) are available in the Lite version.

I think this is a fair compromise and the low price, I hope indicates that I am committed to giving us all a product that does the job, and not in it for the money... unless it comes from the Jackpot :)

Regards
Patrick
 

struxo

Member
Hi Patrick,

good to see you're back. Too bad i'm using linux now and i can't use your program.
But i wish you good luck.
I'm gonna follow this tread and maybe contribute with some ideas.

I hope Springbok will be back too.

regards
struxo
 

ganbatte

Member
Patrick123 said:
Editing Data, Loading results up to Keno Size (80 balls @20 balls in a draw), Drawing Analysis with the full plethora of filters and graphs are available in the Lite Version.
Hi Patrick

My first two suggestions would be to increase the amount of balls to 90 to cater for the SuperEna lottery in Italy (90/6) and to cater for Powerball-type games.
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi struxo and thanks for the welcome,

You might still be able to use the program, I switch between Ubuntu Linux and Windows quite often, and using the Linux WINE emulator seems to work fine :)

Your ideas are always welcome, and I hope Springbok also says hello, unless he's won the EuroMillions and bought his own island!

Thanks ganbatte, I'll up the system to cater for 90 balls... I guestimate that's in excess of 120k trip sets!

Since the Powerball is usually drawn from it's own set of numbers, it has to be handled differently. I was thinking of possibly taking two or three PB draws at time, just the PB number and building this up into the pairs and trips that WinnaLotto requires for better analysis otherwise it is treated as a single ball draw with just skips available per individual ball. Now that SA has PB as well, will most probably start playing with ideas.

Regards
Patrick
 

struxo

Member
Wave idea

Hi Patrick,

Here is one thing i noticed in Keno but it can be used in lotto games, i hope :)

First i noticed repeat numbers from previous draw. Then i followed those numbers next few draws. You can find core numbers 2-4 and follow which other numbers draws with them. Sometimes it's 5-6 and sometimes it's up to 10 numbers.

You can see them in about 4-5 or more draws. Sometimes less, sometimes more. It's like wave. It start with 2,3 or 4 numbers, go up to 5,6 or even 10. Then it decrese back to 2-4 numbers.

It's not funny to use pencil and paper to trace it. Hope it can be done in Winnalotto.

regards
struxo
 

Patrick123

Member
bloubul said:
Hi HalfBee
Thanks for your response. Tell me how do you go about to find the repeater??
Patrick123 also told me that he could tell which number will repeat, but never tell..
I play 6/49

BlouBul :cool:

Hi BlouBul,

You took my original email statement out of context.

I’ve sent a snapshot taken with the original Sangoma v1.0. What this shows, is how many draws back did the numbers match.

Last draw – there where no opening batsmen, 4 draadsitters and 3 cold numbers.

Look at the pattern, usually there is 1 or 2 (maybe 3 opening batsmen), 2 or 3 draadsitters or 2 or 3 cold numbers. Are we trying to make things too complicated, or maybe we just got the hind teat of the cow?

What I suggest, we stay each with our specific area re-forecasting, bearing in mind our previous draw, or we swap areas. I’m now guaranteeing 1 to 2 numbers from the previous draw and at least one to 2 cold numbers, basically normalised.

That was speaking in the sense of what what going to happen the next draw only since there where no opening batsmen, I was saying that the next draw was going to have at least 1 or 2 numbers from the previous draw, not that I could predict the number or that I could find the repeater. The Opening Batsmen filter is still the method I use.

Regards
Patrick
 
Winnalotto

Hi Patrick123,

Just purchased the full version of Winnalotto and can't wait to try some new
ideas. I played with medians to predict returning numbers, but always missed
1 or 2 long shot numbers. Your documentation was much better than before.
With bubble captions explaining functions on various screenshots, made this
easier to understand what Winnalotto was doing. I wanted to know if the
full version will include future updates? Good to see you back :)

-BP
 

Patrick123

Member
struxo said:
Hi Patrick,

Here is one thing i noticed in Keno but it can be used in lotto games, i hope :)

First i noticed repeat numbers from previous draw. Then i followed those numbers next few draws. You can find core numbers 2-4 and follow which other numbers draws with them. Sometimes it's 5-6 and sometimes it's up to 10 numbers.

You can see them in about 4-5 or more draws. Sometimes less, sometimes more. It's like wave. It start with 2,3 or 4 numbers, go up to 5,6 or even 10. Then it decrese back to 2-4 numbers.

It's not funny to use pencil and paper to trace it. Hope it can be done in Winnalotto.

regards
struxo

Hi struxo,
I have noticed a similar concept when back-testing, usually 2 or 3 column filters seem to pull in a lot of the numbers, then they seem to fade away after 4 or 5 draws and then a few draws later they come in strong again for a few draws. I'll kick a few ideas around and see if I can track the equivalent of a wave or seasonal pattern with a filter and if there's any way to predict when its effectiveness is on the increase or decrease.

Regards
Patrick
 

Patrick123

Member
black prince said:
Hi Patrick123,

Just purchased the full version of Winnalotto and can't wait to try some new
ideas. I played with medians to predict returning numbers, but always missed
1 or 2 long shot numbers. Your documentation was much better than before.
With bubble captions explaining functions on various screenshots, made this
easier to understand what Winnalotto was doing. I wanted to know if the
full version will include future updates? Good to see you back :)

-BP

Hi BP,

Many thanks, there's a bunch of ideas, zooming around in my head, just to be able to get it penned down.
At the moment, I'm completing the Digit Ends concept that we spoke about a while back. I've taken it one step further, since a digit end is really a grouping of the number MOD 10, (the MOD or MODULAR function is a mathematical function to get the remainder of a division e.g. 23 divided by 10 equals 2 remainder 3 - it the this 3 that we're after).
I'm creating a tab called Modular that will allow you group the numbers from MOD 10 down to MOD 2, usually the MOD 5 to MOD 10 range is the most informative.
An example , under MOD 10, you notice the digits ending with 8 have not hit in the last three draws, changing this to mod 7, you notice that the third group has not struck in 3 draws as well, looking at the numbers that make up group 3 for mod 7, the numbers are 3,10,17,24,31,38,45. In this case 38 is the common denominator and would be the one I'd scrutinize:)

Once you have the key-code, ALL future updates are INCLUDED!! :agree:

Regards
Patrick
 
Column Filter "Detail"

Hi Patrick123,

My question is about the column filter "Detail". When using a range of
15 to 17 for my test lottery game 5/30, it seems to pick numbers outside of
this range as numbers that are NOT going to win. Iam wondering if you could
give more background about how it works. BTW, the range differs depending on
the game. I found my range by back testing. So far, it's removed on average
4 to 5 numbers from 5/30 lotto making the game 5/25 or 5/26. ;)

-BP
 
Purge 1 consecutive numbers?

Hi Patrick123,
I'm testing the Selection Tab with Purge 1 thru 4. In Purge 1 more than "2"
consecutive numbers "REMOVE" test gives me the following results for 5/30.

1,2,3,5,17...1,2,3,6,17...1,2,3,7,17 and so on.

What I want is 1,2,4,5,17..1,2,4,6,17...1,2,4,7,17... and so on.

Could you let me know what i'm doing wrong.

-BP
 
Purge 1 solved

Hi Patrick123,
I'm testing the Selection Tab with Purge 1 thru 4. In Purge 1 more than "2"
consecutive numbers "REMOVE" test gives me the following results for 5/30.

1,2,3,5,17...1,2,3,6,17...1,2,3,7,17 and so on.

What I want is 1,2,4,5,17..1,2,4,6,17...1,2,4,7,17... and so on.

Could you let me know what i'm doing wrong.

-BP

Patrick123, I figured out my problem and it works fine. ;)

Purge 4 Tab - Remove rows with: Digit Endings - No Pairs, One Pair,
Two Pairs, etc. is puzzeling. How would this filter apply to a set of
numbers?

Thanks

-BP
 

struxo

Member
Hi all

I installed WINE and it works just FINE :)

I have Fedora 10 and now i can enjoy in Winnalotto.

regards
struxo
 

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