Winnalotto-Sangoma 2

[ganbatte]

Winnalotto medians

This may seem like a stupid question but why do the medians change in Winnalotto when importing the same data range (200 draws), one with 6 balls, and another with 7 balls?

Is it because there were hits in the past on the number 7 bonus ball, which caused the skips to change and then the median to change?

 

[taaroa]

This may seem like a stupid question but why do the medians change in Winnalotto when importing the same data range (200 draws), one with 6 balls, and another with 7 balls?

Is it because there were hits in the past on the number 7 bonus ball, which caused the skips to change and then the median to change?

Hi ganbatte,

That is not a stupid question at all.

When you calculate the median for each number, you list the skips of each number and sort them. Then you take the skip right in the middle of the list. This is the median of your number.

You take 200 draws for 6 balls. Say number 1 have 20 skips. You calculate the median. Then you load 200 draws for the 7 balls. You have more skips to calculate for you take account of the bonus number. For number 1, you'll have now say 30 skips for number one. Evidently, the median will not be the same, most of the time.

Logically, the more skips you'll have, the lower the skips will be and the lower the median will be. This is how I see it even though I have not verified it. Probably someone could confirm this.

Hope this help.

taaroa

 

[ganbatte]

Thanks taaroa. That's what I thought.

I tried to confirm this from the information on Ion's website but got a headache trying to understand it all

 

[black prince]

ganbatte

Here's Patrick's explaination of Median used in Winnalotto:

http://www.lotto649.ws/lotto-tips-strategies/10750-winnalotto-sangoma-2-a-9.html?highlight=median

-BP

 

[ganbatte]

Sniper1 analysis

I have been analysing Sniper1 from Springbok in Winnalotto and have summarised the past 10 draws for the SA 6/40 lottery http://www.mediafire.com/?ryyziecbxz3.

The file shows the Sniper1 percentages rounded down. Not perfect but good enough for a quick analysis. The numbers that hit in each draw are highlighted in yellow.

I used it for the last draw and got 3 numbers but the rest evaded me, especially number 43 that has hit 3 times in a row. I noticed that numbers with 0%, 50%, 66% and 100% for a few draws in a row tend to hit, some just before a change and some just after (eg. 0% to 50%). Look at balls 28, 36 and 43 as examples.

Sometimes a once-off percentage hits but normally there seems to be a trend. I haven't tried this using any other lotteries as it's a manual process but it might help with the next draw.

 

[barge]

Hi Ganbatte,

Interesting study!

I am working slowly with MOSES ideas, and making some progress, but it will take time, and my brain is beginning to hurt!

 

[bloubul]

I have been analysing Sniper1 from Springbok in Winnalotto and have summarised the past 10 draws for the SA 6/40 lottery http://www.mediafire.com/?ryyziecbxz3.

The file shows the Sniper1 percentages rounded down. Not perfect but good enough for a quick analysis. The numbers that hit in each draw are highlighted in yellow.

I used it for the last draw and got 3 numbers but the rest evaded me, especially number 43 that has hit 3 times in a row. I noticed that numbers with 0%, 50%, 66% and 100% for a few draws in a row tend to hit, some just before a change and some just after (eg. 0% to 50%). Look at balls 28, 36 and 43 as examples.

Sometimes a once-off percentage hits but normally there seems to be a trend. I haven't tried this using any other lotteries as it's a manual process but it might help with the next draw.

Hi ganbatte

Please post the Criteria of Sniper1 for me

Thanks
BlouBul

 

[ganbatte]

Sniper1 analysis

Here is Springbok's original post on Sniper 1.

Let us call this technique Sniper1 as we aim at 2 shots one kill within two draws and a cunning clued up chappie should be able to reduce it to one draw. I have used it on the 49s 7/49 with current skip levels of 3,4,5,etc

Initially we accept that a pair will hit within a 4 draw timeframe. Let's get on the pseudocode.

Initially you have to decide on the length of the history file so an object will be needed for the user to input the desired length and invoke a flt file like omega or whatever. You will have the normal single ball, pair and trip control. I would assume your coding will operate on all the 1176 pairs as well. So the user will have a choice of using the full monty or a 24 pair flt file.

The omega format is invoked and a skip analysis if performed resulting in two reports. First is the actual skip report and second a report in sorted order is produced. Below is an example from Omega6. Winnalotto can handle the actual 2 numbers in the pair(my homegrown software cannot hence the conversion to a pseudo or fuzzy number). In the example I have only put the current skip,you may want to have them all.

The current skip is taken and from the next skip 4 is added. The range of out expectations goes from 4 to 7. Now the program counts the number of times the skip cycles hit. It is 23. Next step is to divide the 4-7 range into 2 parts.Part 1 is 4 and 5 and part 2 is 6 and 7. The program looks at part 1 and counts the skip cycles. In this case there are 15 skip cycles.The program divides the 15 by 23 and produces a percenatge.The result is 65%. Now the program looks at part 2 and counts 8 skip cycles. the 8 is divided by 23 and the result is 35%. We can assume on the balance of probabilities that Omega6 will hit in the next 2 draws. That's it. Simple.

Sniper1 in it's original form never brought me any success as I'm not a "cunning clued up chappie" like Springbok. It looked like the 100% balls never hit and the rest were all over the place, but a bit of history helped to show the way.

 

[Flexalong]

Hi Ganbatte,

May I know where can I get the omega filter file?

Thanks

 

[ganbatte]

Flexalong

I would suggest that you ask Springbok that but read through the Winnalotto-Sangoma 2 posts and you will see how Springbok constructs his files which are collections of numbers.

 

[struxo]

to Flexalong

Hi, it's ease to make Omega file. Just take all numbers from your lottery and make pairs or trips with them, but every number should be only once in file. So if you have 48 numbers make 24 pairs.

struxo

 

[struxo]

to all

I wonder if somebody can help me with next:

in Sniper1 we get percent for numbers. Now i wanna see only pairs with 40% or 35% or 85%. How can i make filter for that?

Any suggestion?

struxo

 

[Flexalong]

Hi, it's ease to make Omega file. Just take all numbers from your lottery and make pairs or trips with them, but every number should be only once in file. So if you have 48 numbers make 24 pairs.

struxo

Thanks struxo, will do

 

[ganbatte]

I wonder if somebody can help me with next:

in Sniper1 we get percent for numbers. Now i wanna see only pairs with 40% or 35% or 85%. How can i make filter for that?

Any suggestion?

struxo

Hi Struxo

Winnalotto doesn't cater for that but I have asked Patrick to include it in the next version.

At the moment you have to run all pairs and then manually go through them one by one and find the ones you want.

 

[ganbatte]

For everyone who doesn't know about Springbok's Sniper 1 analysis that Patrick incorporated into Winnalotto, you can find the percentages in the box on the Drawing Analysis screen just above the tick boxes names "Wrap" and "Sorted". For Sniper1 to work the "Sorted" box has to be ticked. I leave the rest at their default values.

Load your historical draws, select balls, scroll down through each ball in the top window while taking note of the percentages below.

 

[ganbatte]

Hi All

Just a quick update on my use of Sniper1 percentages.

I have been making good progress on SA 6/49, EuroMillions and UK 6/49 lotteries getting all the recent winners in my final 20 numbers. I still have to reduce that down to a final list of 10 number combinations to be totally effective.

In using the technique you have to analyse the historical Sniper1 sequences to find patterns and extrapolate them using the current draw. Some percentages are the same across varous lotteries, while some differ slightly (eg. doubles in the past vs doubles in the future, or sequence changes after a 100% in the past vs no changes at all).

I also use Winnalotto to add one or two possible future draws if all 49 numbers hit and if none of them hit. This gives me a possible future analysis as well as a historical analysis.

 

[bloubul]

Just a quick update on my use of Sniper1 percentages.

I have been making good progress on SA 6/49, EuroMillions and UK 6/49 lotteries getting all the recent winners in my final 20 numbers. I still have to reduce that down to a final list of 10 number combinations to be totally effective.

In using the technique you have to analyse the historical Sniper1 sequences to find patterns and extrapolate them using the current draw. Some percentages are the same across varous lotteries, while some differ slightly (eg. doubles in the past vs doubles in the future, or sequence changes after a 100% in the past vs no changes at all).

I also use Winnalotto to add one or two possible future draws if all 49 numbers hit and if none of them hit. This gives me a possible future analysis as well as a historical analysis.

Hi ganbatte

Please post your 20 numbers, I'm trying to see if I can match you.

BlouBul

 

[ganbatte]

Hi bloubul

As I haven't had the time to play the SA lotto properly in the last few weeks I have just done a quick analysis when possible. I have a look at the results, throw away my workings and try to improve the next time.

All I can suggest is that you use the historical draws to spot patterns with 0s, 100s, 50s, 33s, etc. I see in the most recent draw that it hit three 0%, two 50% and one repeat of 71%. At least there are only four 0% numbers left and only two numbers (4 & 22) with doubles after a range of 0%.

Number 30 in the last draw was a suprise as there were no 33% or 50% double combinations in adjacent draws to the 50% which normally occurs.

 

[turtle0747]

Hello Patrick from turtle0747

Hello Patrick

This is about Winnalotto. I may have been loading Winnalotto wrong. Is the first record in your data file suppose to be the MOST recent draw and then descending by date? My file is just the opposite. Just notices my skips not right. I must have been loading the file incorrect.

thanks
turtle0747

 

[ganbatte]

Hi turtle0747

Winnalotto uses the most recent draw as the 1st record and then descending by date.