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Patrick123


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Hi black prince,

At this moment, I have not taken the SDP on the purging screen any further. This bee in my bonnet about the draw skips has kept me busy doing experiments & analysis.

You'll see at this stage the Purge 4 screen, even though it's displayed, it's not active. I'll add it onto this screen ( defaulted to + & -1 deviation) with the ability to actually skew the bell curve depending on your gut feel.

Regards
Patrick

Hi Patrick,
I was not trying to rush you into getting this feature now. Because you have
a mathematics background, I was trying to understand how to calculate
+ and -1 deviation. I believe median is a simple average, but I don't
know how + and -1 deviations is calculated. I realize you plate
is very full. Changes happening daily. When you have a chance, please
explain + and -1 deviations.

Thanks

-BP
 
Hi SpringBok


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Helllo Black Price
Ok, the techniques are the same for any filter. First you look for a filter that is either hitting above or below the median 2 or 3 or more times consecutively. That gives you an indication of where you will set it. If it hits say above the median a number of times then we expect a reversal so you set the Max to the median. If it hits 2 or 3 times below the median then we expect a reversal so we set the Min to the median. You can also look at the +++ or --- to detect reversals and set your filters. It is good you have a number of D5 files as you can search for favourable filter settings
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Nice explaination. :thumb: This is what I was missing. The swings above and below
the Median indicate a change. I am looking at the reports now and it's
starting to make sense. It will take sometime to back test this, but
this will give me good pratice. I'll use CASH5 (5/43) with all combinations
creates 900,000 draws. Then put the current winning history on top of
each, shuffle the file each time to create D5 files. This is easier to setup.

Thanks

-BP
 

Springbok

Member
Helllo Black Price

Whoa there. Only shuffle the simulated file. Then put the real draws on top. If you shuffle with the real draws on top you will destroy your D5 file and make it useless for prediction purposes.

Let's talk about Lie files. What is a Lie file. It is a file that cannot contain the winning combination. I am talking about the 6/49 game. Lie files are no stranger to us as all we have done so far is produce them as we aint won the Jackpot:look:burnt: Assume you have picked 24 numbers and are confident that the 6 winning numbers are there. You can easily set the incorrect filters and run the combinating generating programme. Voila, you have a Lie file which you can use to purge the full wheel of 132596. Do this a couple of times and you can really reduce those combinations in the full wheel even before you start to begin a serious hunt for that winning combination. Lie file are our best friends.:finger:
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi Black Prince,

Median is not a simple average.
I quote from Wikipeadia:
The difference between the median and the mean is illustrated in this simple example:

Suppose 19 paupers and 1 billionaire are in a room. Everyone removes all the money from their pockets and puts it on a table. Each pauper puts $5 on the table; the billionaire puts $1 billion (i.e. $10^9) there. The total is then $1,000,000,095. If that money is divided equally among the 20 people, each gets $50,000,004.75. That amount is the mean amount of money that the 20 people brought into the room. But the median amount is $5, since one may divide the group into two groups of 10 people each, and say that everyone in the first group brought in no more than $5, and each person in the second group brought in no less than $5. In a sense, the median is the amount that the typical person brought in. By contrast, the mean is not at all typical, since nobody in the room brought in an amount approximating $50,000,004.75.

To put it simply standard deviation is sort of the average amount that a value can deviate from the mean(average) either above or below it.

Here's the wiki links for Median and Standard Deviation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation

Regards
Patrick
 

Springbok

Member
Boker Tov Patrick

Checked your results for the SA draw. Not beating random expectations. In the next few days(probably this Bank Holiday weekend) I will give you an algorithm that will analyse the behaviour of pairs(and trips) based on their history and will calculate their probability of hitting in the next draw or so. I use the system in the 49s bookies lottery to mug them. I trust the evaluations far more than the existing filters. I use the evaluations at the moment with one of my alpha, beta type files in DOS. The evaluations would be done automatically in the program and give the results for perusal and testing. I do the testing manually and in real time with money. At the moment I bet on the pair with the highest rating and it brings in the bacon. With the program automatically weighing up the pairs, it would be an excellent opportunity to fine tune the algorithm using different parameters. Although I only use a specific 24 pairs it would be interesting to see how the algorithm would predict with all 1176 pairings in the 49 number game.
 

Patrick123

Member
Dobraye ootra Springbok,

The performance was fairly dismal, I ended up getting a bit arrogant and just took the most blatant numbers. Low and behold, these numbers actually backed each other up. I'm currently busy with the postmortem so I can understand where I went wrong.

Regards
Patrick
 

Springbok

Member
Yebo gogo

There aint no such thing as failure only feedback as the caveman said to his wife after his left leg had been chewed off by a sabre toothed tiger. I gotta be more careful in future:dang:
 

Patrick123

Member
Springbok said:
There aint no such thing as failure only feedback as the caveman said to his wife after his left leg had been chewed off by a sabre toothed tiger. I gotta be more careful in future:dang:

:rolling:

So true!!
 
Hi Patrick123

Hi Patrick,

The Purge Screen is very nice. :thumb: I just got around to testing every active filter
using resonable ranges against combinations of 11,564 from my numbers.
It reduced them to 913. The winning number was still preserved. I made screen
shots of the settings for future reference. My use of median seems to overcome
pre-testing draws, since wining numbers seem to come from this group until their median
is no longer overdue. Most past numbers on average do not exceed 4 draws before
they hit. When you have more time to devote to Purge filters, I believe you'll
come close and may exceed BRIGHT5. This progress is fantastic. :spiny:

-BP
 

taaroa

Member
Hi,

From the book Lottery Numbers by Harry Schneider :
This is for 6/49 lotteries.

When choosing a line of your FUTURE lottery numbers
you should ensure:

They are not either all odd or all even.
That 5 or 6 of them are not exactly divisible by 3.
That 5 or 6 of them are not exactly divisible by 4.
That 5 or 6 of them are not exactly divisible by 5.
That 4, 5 or 6 of them are not exactly divisible by 6.
That 4, 5 or 6 of them are not exactly divisible by 7
That 4, 5 or 6 of them are not exactly divisible by 8
That 3, 4 or 5 of them are not exactly divisible by 9.
That 3 or 4 of them are not exactly divisible by 10.
That 3 or 4 of them are not exactly divisible by 11.
That 3 or 4 of them are not exactly divisible by 12.
That 3 of them are not exactly divisible by 13.
That 3 of them are not exactly divisible by 14.
That 3 of them are not exactly divisible by 15.
That 3 of them are not exactly divisible by 16.
That 4, 5 or 6 of them are not in the units series.
That 5 or 6 of them are not in the tens series.
That 5 or 6 of them are not in the twenties series.
That 5 or 6 of them are not in the thirties series.
That 5 or 6 of them are not in the forties series.
That 4 5 or 6 of them are not in the prime series.
That there are never 4 or 5 of them ending in 'l'
That there are never 4 or 5 of them ending in `2'
That there are nover 4 or 5 of them ending in '3'
That there are never 4 or 5 of them ending in '4'
That there are never 4 or 5 of them ending in '5'
That there are never 4 or 5 of thein ending in '6'
That there are never 4 or 5 of them ending in '7'
That there are never 4 or 5 of them ending in '8'
That there are never 4 or 5 of them ending in '9'
That when you add them together they never total less
than 82 or more than 243.
That the standard deviation value of the set is never less
than 6 or more than 21.
That the first number is within the range of 1 - 28.
That the second number is within the range of 3 - 38.
That the third number is within the range of 6 - 41.
That the fourth number is within the range of 12 - 46.
That the fifth number is within the range of 14 - 48.
That the sixth number is within the range of 30 - 49.
(After the différences between the numbers have been
calculated and arranged in ascending order) Then ensure:
That the différence between the first and second number
is within the range of 1 - 5.
That the différence between the second and third number
is within the range of 1 - 8.
That the différence between the third and fourth number
is within the range of 1 - 10.
That the différence between the fourth and fifth number
is within the range of 3 - 13.
That the différence between the fifth and sixth number is
within the range of 8 - 20.
That the différence between the sixth and first number is
within the range of 12 - 31 That 4, 5 or 6 of them are
not 'squared' numbers.
That 4, 5 or 6 of them are not in the 'Fibonacci' series.
That 4, 5 or 6 of them are not in the 'Lucas' series.

I don't understand all these filters but probably some of you do.

Hope this can help to use the Purge tab of Winnalotto.

taaroa
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi black prince, Hi taaroa,

Thanks again for the vote of confidence BP, and thanks taaroa for the list of filters, I have about 80% of them and will definitely add in the rest :)

Regards
Patrick
 

Springbok

Member
Aloha kakahiakaTaaroa

Great post. Gee Whiz, I never heard of the Lucas series. I bet a number of those filters are in Saliu's internal filters in the Bright programmes. When you activate the internal filters alone they knock out at least 30% of combinations.

Os-da-su-na-le Patrick

It would be great if you put those filters into the programme. I wonder how you would code in the Lucas series or the fibonacci series? I would imagine you would have a control to switch all the filters on and off. Anyway this Bank holiday weekend promises to be cold, wet and stormy- an excellent opportunity to stay in to research lotteries:) The weather in the UK is definitely random.:)
 

taaroa

Member
Aloha BP,Patrick and SpringBok,

Lucas series are the following numbers : 1,3,4,7,11,18,29,47
Fibonacci series are : 1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34.

It would be fine if we could load and purge external files.

Thank you.
 

Patrick123

Member
Günaydin Springbok,

At the moment that's how the purge tab works, you run each filter yourself (it goes quick enough) once you set your settings.


At the moment, these filters are not available:
That the standard deviation value of the set is never less
than 6 or more than 21.
(After the différences between the numbers have been
calculated and arranged in ascending order) Then ensure:
That the différence between the first and second number
is within the range of 1 - 5.
That the différence between the second and third number
is within the range of 1 - 8.
That the différence between the third and fourth number
is within the range of 1 - 10.
That the différence between the fourth and fifth number
is within the range of 3 - 13.
That the différence between the fifth and sixth number is
within the range of 8 - 20.
That the différence between the sixth and first number is
within the range of 12 - 31 That 4, 5 or 6 of them are
not 'squared' numbers.
That 4, 5 or 6 of them are not in the 'Fibonacci' series.
That 4, 5 or 6 of them are not in the 'Lucas' series.

but thanks to taaroa, I'll get them added in.

The Fibonnacci and Lucas series, because there's not that many of them it's not even worth using the formula, I'll simply use a case statement, with them listed like I do for the primes.

for c := 0 to TickSize - 1 do
case a[c] of
2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,
23,29,31,37,41,43,47,
53,59,61,67,71,73,79: Result := Result + 1;
end;

Regards
Patrick
 

Patrick123

Member
Ia ora na Taaroa, Springbok & Black Prince,

I'll add in the feature to load external files, no problem.

I was wondering about the differences, between the numbers. i.e. I would end up with five numbers, and whether the odd/even, prime/non-prime, etc. filters be applied to this?

Regards
Patrick
 

taaroa

Member
Patrick123 said:
Ia ora na Taaroa, Springbok & Black Prince,

I'll add in the feature to load external files, no problem.

I was wondering about the differences, between the numbers. i.e. I would end up with five numbers, and whether the odd/even, prime/non-prime, etc. filters be applied to this?

Regards
Patrick

Thanks Patrick123 to offer us the possibility to purge external files.

Now, for the choices among those filters, I must say I have not the answer right now. I could not test them as I had not the right program. Hopefully, Winnalotto will allow it. Testing will probably bring us the answer.


taaroa
 
Hi Patrick123

Patrick,

Because there are so many filter options in Winnalotto maybe this could be a useful idea.

There are static filters that could be built-in and automatic in the Purge Screen.
I generally choose the ones that are very low probility and least likely to remove
the Jackpot draw.

STATIC FILTERS
1) all odd or all even numbers
2) 3 or more consecutive numbers
3) 3 or more numbers in one decade
4) 3 or more numbers with same digits ending
5) 3 or more squared numbers
6) 3 or more prime numbers
7) standard deviation + and -1 deviation
8) draw matched from previous winning draw history
.
xx) and more

The dynamic filters would be based on analysis from history draws and require
input for filter ranges.

DYNAMIC FILTERS
1) Column 1 values HIGHER than 'xx'
2) Column 5 values LOWER than 'xx'
3) Contains number 'xx' and number 'xx'
4) Does not contain number 'xx' and number 'xx'
.
xx) and more


-BP
 
Hello Patrick

Hello Patrick

Is there anyway to get the Moses tab to show 53 numbers? Or will that mess things up for your lottos? I have a 6/53 lotto I am working on.

thanks
turtle0747
 
To All

I guess this is one of those situations where a rare draw happened.

Winnalotto's picks for Treasure Hunt Fri (05/23/08):

1,4,5,7,10,11,13,14,16,17,18,19,20,22,27,28,29,30

Winning Numbers for Treasure Hunt Fri (05/23/08): 2-20-22-27-28

The Purge Screen using Decades filter removed this. But I still recovered my bet
money. :)

-BP
 

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