Winnalotto-Sangoma 2
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Patrick123
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Let's break the ice on this thread.
Struxo, the sample keno file that I use loads all 20 balls. are you able to post your file somewhere, or at least the first few lines so I can compare the structure.
At this stage, I'll have a look at the OR function in the column filter to see why it's not working as expected.
I want to now start on the level of tertiary filters, I think we have a relatively powerful column filter system that is capable of extracting the high probability balls. Now its a matter of generating combinations of these balls and purging it through the tertiary filters.
The initial filters will be the removal of:
I'm looking at the best way to implement the digit ending filters.
As we have a wheeling system included as well. If it gets used, I want to look at ways of ordering the balls in the wheel that will optimise it in relation to all of the above as well.
Regards
Patrick
Struxo, the sample keno file that I use loads all 20 balls. are you able to post your file somewhere, or at least the first few lines so I can compare the structure.
At this stage, I'll have a look at the OR function in the column filter to see why it's not working as expected.
I want to now start on the level of tertiary filters, I think we have a relatively powerful column filter system that is capable of extracting the high probability balls. Now its a matter of generating combinations of these balls and purging it through the tertiary filters.
The initial filters will be the removal of:
- x or more sequential numbers.
- x or more multiples of y.
- x or more odd numbers.
- x or more prime numbers.
- x or more numbers in any decade.
- rows below or above a min and max total.
I'm looking at the best way to implement the digit ending filters.
As we have a wheeling system included as well. If it gets used, I want to look at ways of ordering the balls in the wheel that will optimise it in relation to all of the above as well.
Regards
Patrick
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Hi Patrick ,
here is sample of my Keno file. It's text file.
01 05 06 12 13 15 17 19 20 21 32 39 46 49 55 58 64 66 69 70
06 08 11 15 16 20 22 23 35 38 39 42 47 55 59 60 62 66 67 69
08 09 13 14 16 18 19 26 29 34 37 46 47 54 60 65 67 68 69 70
03 04 05 06 08 14 25 26 30 42 43 46 47 55 59 61 62 63 64 66
02 03 09 11 12 15 23 26 29 31 42 45 57 60 63 65 66 67 69 70
03 05 09 11 14 21 26 29 30 41 45 47 50 54 55 57 58 60 61 66
02 07 09 11 13 15 16 24 28 37 38 40 42 47 49 50 53 56 60 67
i tried with "No key field" and "No date included" checked and unchecked but all i get is missing last number or first number.
I use only numbers 1-50 because i don't trust in results in Drawing analysis screen for numbers higher then 50.
I hope you can find something.
Hi Patrick ,
here is sample of my Keno file. It's text file.
01 05 06 12 13 15 17 19 20 21 32 39 46 49 55 58 64 66 69 70
06 08 11 15 16 20 22 23 35 38 39 42 47 55 59 60 62 66 67 69
08 09 13 14 16 18 19 26 29 34 37 46 47 54 60 65 67 68 69 70
03 04 05 06 08 14 25 26 30 42 43 46 47 55 59 61 62 63 64 66
02 03 09 11 12 15 23 26 29 31 42 45 57 60 63 65 66 67 69 70
03 05 09 11 14 21 26 29 30 41 45 47 50 54 55 57 58 60 61 66
02 07 09 11 13 15 16 24 28 37 38 40 42 47 49 50 53 56 60 67
i tried with "No key field" and "No date included" checked and unchecked but all i get is missing last number or first number.
I use only numbers 1-50 because i don't trust in results in Drawing analysis screen for numbers higher then 50.
I hope you can find something.
e Sawubona Patrick
Hoe gaan dit in Egoli in die ou Transvaal. This morning before I checked the Wednesday draw on the SA lottery I had a quick look at the =< skips on the number pairs on the last 3 skip cycles including the current one. I ran all the 1176pairs ans sorted skip 1 in descending order and picked the first six I came across just to see whatsup. they were as follows:-
15,30
7,48
11,39
33,48
16,25
22,25
I then checked the results e-mailed to me. The pool was 9 numbers and 4 of those 9 numbers hit in that draw. This is a pretty phenomenal result. At the moment my lottery research is curtailed because of work commitments. You can duplicate this yourself. The sooner I can win the lottery the sooner I can stop wasting my time working
and spend more time on the interesting things in life like seeing how unrandom lotteries are I had to spend the bank holiday weekend looking for my ancestors in the east of London.
Hoe gaan dit in Egoli in die ou Transvaal. This morning before I checked the Wednesday draw on the SA lottery I had a quick look at the =< skips on the number pairs on the last 3 skip cycles including the current one. I ran all the 1176pairs ans sorted skip 1 in descending order and picked the first six I came across just to see whatsup. they were as follows:-
15,30
7,48
11,39
33,48
16,25
22,25
I then checked the results e-mailed to me. The pool was 9 numbers and 4 of those 9 numbers hit in that draw. This is a pretty phenomenal result. At the moment my lottery research is curtailed because of work commitments. You can duplicate this yourself. The sooner I can win the lottery the sooner I can stop wasting my time working
and spend more time on the interesting things in life like seeing how unrandom lotteries are I had to spend the bank holiday weekend looking for my ancestors in the east of London.
Patrick123
Member
Hi Struxo,
Good news, it's only the display of the loaded numbers that messes up the last column, this seems to happen only when there is no key field and no date field. All the info is loaded correctly and you can see that by going to the Drawing Analysis tab and clicking balls. You'll see ball 70 is displayed and has skip values relating to it. The display will be corrected in the next release.
Regards
Patrick
Good news, it's only the display of the loaded numbers that messes up the last column, this seems to happen only when there is no key field and no date field. All the info is loaded correctly and you can see that by going to the Drawing Analysis tab and clicking balls. You'll see ball 70 is displayed and has skip values relating to it. The display will be corrected in the next release.
Regards
Patrick
Patrick123
Member
Dumela Springbok,
I agree, work commitments are slowing down the wondrous research in Lotteries, maybe we can get a syndicate or 2 to employ us full time
Having to work on the numbers now and again only gets us acquainted with them and not to the point we get to know them intimately
That is pretty impressive, if only it continued that way. In Moses' thread, I predicted a digit ending with a 2 and at least one pair. This came in so there is definitely validity in using such methods as a tertiary filter when generating possible combinations.
Regards
Patrick
I agree, work commitments are slowing down the wondrous research in Lotteries, maybe we can get a syndicate or 2 to employ us full time
Having to work on the numbers now and again only gets us acquainted with them and not to the point we get to know them intimately
That is pretty impressive, if only it continued that way. In Moses' thread, I predicted a digit ending with a 2 and at least one pair. This came in so there is definitely validity in using such methods as a tertiary filter when generating possible combinations.
Regards
Patrick
Hello Bloubul
First you should have the SA draws. To test skip the very last draw. Load the next 100. Hit the pairs control. go to skip 1 and sort. Start to look at the pairs with the current skip at 0. Write down the first 6 that have skips =< their median. You should end up with the pairs which I posted. Remember you should tick the box which gives you the skips history and expand it. Simple. For last Saturday's draw skip the last two draws to test. Your results should be identical to mine. I am using the 6/49 game and do not use the bonus ball. In other word I never have the bonus ball in the data file as I never record it. You could try the bonus ball but have it in a separate data file, never mix the 2 data files.
First you should have the SA draws. To test skip the very last draw. Load the next 100. Hit the pairs control. go to skip 1 and sort. Start to look at the pairs with the current skip at 0. Write down the first 6 that have skips =< their median. You should end up with the pairs which I posted. Remember you should tick the box which gives you the skips history and expand it. Simple. For last Saturday's draw skip the last two draws to test. Your results should be identical to mine. I am using the 6/49 game and do not use the bonus ball. In other word I never have the bonus ball in the data file as I never record it. You could try the bonus ball but have it in a separate data file, never mix the 2 data files.
Patrick123
Member
Hi Springbok,
Like Bloubul, I also tried to duplicate your result. The sorting algorithm I use only sorts on the one column, but any previous sorts you did would have an impact on you final sort. It looks like I'll have to add in a multi-column sort feature.
Regards
Patrick
Like Bloubul, I also tried to duplicate your result. The sorting algorithm I use only sorts on the one column, but any previous sorts you did would have an impact on you final sort. It looks like I'll have to add in a multi-column sort feature.
Regards
Patrick
Hi Patrick
No ways, you got it wrong. The way I do it overcomes that problem. I do not use the other skip columns. If you delete all columns except the median and skip 1 and tick the radio button(show skips) and then hit the pairs control and then sort the skip 1 column into either ascending or descending order the draw history that is attached to the pairs is sorted when you sort the skip 1 column. Try it, it works.
No ways, you got it wrong. The way I do it overcomes that problem. I do not use the other skip columns. If you delete all columns except the median and skip 1 and tick the radio button(show skips) and then hit the pairs control and then sort the skip 1 column into either ascending or descending order the draw history that is attached to the pairs is sorted when you sort the skip 1 column. Try it, it works.
Hi Patrick
Just to add, when I set up the format as mentioned in the previous post I save it as skipsearcher.clm. Once the data file is loaded and invoke skipsearcher and voila the format appears. I tick the needed radio button hit the pairs control, sort and then expand the skips history. There you go. Simple.
Just to add, when I set up the format as mentioned in the previous post I save it as skipsearcher.clm. Once the data file is loaded and invoke skipsearcher and voila the format appears. I tick the needed radio button hit the pairs control, sort and then expand the skips history. There you go. Simple.
Hi blized
Thanks for the birthday wishes - much appreciated!
bloubul, I got 3 numbers from the lotto 4 numbers from the plus. in addition to the winnalotto numbers I used my birthday date lds to wheel 8 lines!
the numbers really surprised me but is more surprising is that two people got it right!
Moses can you explain this?
Regards
Thanks for the birthday wishes - much appreciated!
bloubul, I got 3 numbers from the lotto 4 numbers from the plus. in addition to the winnalotto numbers I used my birthday date lds to wheel 8 lines!
the numbers really surprised me but is more surprising is that two people got it right!
Moses can you explain this?
Regards
Morning Bloubul
At the moment I don't play lotteries except for the bookies lottery. At least I make some money out of these generous people, bless them
The last SA lottery was unbalanced when you consider the lexicographic index. You got 2 numbers. To evaluate your result one has to know how many combinations you played to find out if you are beating random expectations. For example if you just picked 6 numbers out of the blue then you would have a theoretical 57% chance of hitting 1 number in the 6/49 game. Playing 5 combinations will give you a 50% chance of hitting 2 numbers in a combination. If you could eliminate numbers from the original pool of 49 then the odds will shorten when you generate combinations.
At the moment I don't play lotteries except for the bookies lottery. At least I make some money out of these generous people, bless them
The last SA lottery was unbalanced when you consider the lexicographic index. You got 2 numbers. To evaluate your result one has to know how many combinations you played to find out if you are beating random expectations. For example if you just picked 6 numbers out of the blue then you would have a theoretical 57% chance of hitting 1 number in the 6/49 game. Playing 5 combinations will give you a 50% chance of hitting 2 numbers in a combination. If you could eliminate numbers from the original pool of 49 then the odds will shorten when you generate combinations.
bloubul
Member
Hi Springbok
This was the final numbers:
3
7
10
15
16
20
21
22
24
32
33
34
39
45
47
49
Combo's Played
07 33 22 15 20 21
07 32 39 49 03 10
07 16 24 34 45 47
33 22 32 39 16 24
33 15 49 03 34 45
20 21 32 10 34 47
20 21 49 03 16 24
22 15 39 10 45 47
33 20 39 49 16 47
33 21 03 10 24 45
22 15 32 49 24 34
07 22 20 39 03 34
07 15 21 32 16 45
22 15 03 10 16 47
07 33 49 10 24 47
22 21 39 49 34 45
33 20 32 03 45 47
15 20 39 10 24 45
07 33 21 10 16 34
15 21 39 03 24 47
22 20 32 49 10 45
07 15 20 32 39 34
07 22 21 49 45 47
07 33 32 03 16 34
33 20 39 10 16 34
07 22 15 32 16 24
33 15 21 32 39 49
33 22 15 20 34 47
07 33 15 20 03 10
07 22 32 39 24 45
07 33 15 21 49 16
If incorrect please help.
BlouBul
This was the final numbers:
3
7
10
15
16
20
21
22
24
32
33
34
39
45
47
49
Combo's Played
07 33 22 15 20 21
07 32 39 49 03 10
07 16 24 34 45 47
33 22 32 39 16 24
33 15 49 03 34 45
20 21 32 10 34 47
20 21 49 03 16 24
22 15 39 10 45 47
33 20 39 49 16 47
33 21 03 10 24 45
22 15 32 49 24 34
07 22 20 39 03 34
07 15 21 32 16 45
22 15 03 10 16 47
07 33 49 10 24 47
22 21 39 49 34 45
33 20 32 03 45 47
15 20 39 10 24 45
07 33 21 10 16 34
15 21 39 03 24 47
22 20 32 49 10 45
07 15 20 32 39 34
07 22 21 49 45 47
07 33 32 03 16 34
33 20 39 10 16 34
07 22 15 32 16 24
33 15 21 32 39 49
33 22 15 20 34 47
07 33 15 20 03 10
07 22 32 39 24 45
07 33 15 21 49 16
If incorrect please help.
BlouBul
bloubul
Member
Hi Sprinbok
Please correct me to put only the selected numbers together, as I don't know how,"How did you arrive at those numbers you picked?
e.g 7 : 21 Median 2 Skip 0 Skips 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 2 0 4 1 6 7 3 0 1 1 1 4 0 6 9 1 3 9 2 4 9. I select all the numbers with Skip 0 and Skips 0 0 1 etc.
BlouBul
Please correct me to put only the selected numbers together, as I don't know how,"How did you arrive at those numbers you picked?
e.g 7 : 21 Median 2 Skip 0 Skips 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 2 0 4 1 6 7 3 0 1 1 1 4 0 6 9 1 3 9 2 4 9. I select all the numbers with Skip 0 and Skips 0 0 1 etc.
BlouBul