What happened yesterday?

Beaker · Apr 21, 2004

gsobier said:
Beaker:

You collected this one:
Guest Quoting Post in Thread 6/49 Discussion For April 21, 2004 04:22 PM.

As you can see, there is nothing from a Guest in that thread. Logic tells me the Guest clicked Quote, was then stopped followed by a message saying you need to be a member. Does this make sense?

Regards,
George

George,
you can't see posts as guests, therefore can't click the 'quote' button within the post :no:

Try it for yourself - can't do it :no:

Beaker · Apr 21, 2004

shirazbai said:
Good to be back. A huge number of sites were subjected to DOS (Denial Of Service) attacks yesterday and today.

As far as protecting this site from further intrusions, perhaps this could be of help (specifically, point #3).

Those are all good points shirazbai :agree:

I'm certain LT is on this one for sure :agree2:

gsobier · Apr 21, 2004

Beaker:

Here is some more for LT and also to share with you guys.

From my experiences with passwords in the business world, trivial passwords are the leakest link. There are definate rules I'd insist on to prevent discovery. Beyond that, some software or the operating system responsible for granting access should notice an attack and take appropriate action.

It is very interesting to note LT was locked out... ...was it just LT or everyone? We had a restore done so we will never know the whole story on that one :notme:

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Regards,
George

gsobier · Apr 21, 2004

Beaker:

I'm not sure why... ...the biggest question is how come you catpured activity showing a Guest doing what we think is not possible :notme:

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Regards,
George

Beaker said:
George,
you can't see posts as guests, therefore can't click the 'quote' button within the post

Try it for yourself - can't do it

Dennis Bassboss · Apr 22, 2004

Brad said:
That didn't feel like a planned outage LT, I actually got a Trojan when I tried to read a post here

Is everything O.K. now?

Try this....
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html

Brad · Apr 22, 2004

Beaker said:
George,
you can't see posts as guests, therefore can't click the 'quote' button within the post

Try it for yourself - can't do it

pls see below ... and no, :dang:

I'm not trying to pad my post count

Brad · Apr 22, 2004

I wondered about the 'Quote' thingy too

a guest can click view ... but won't get too far cuz the 'you must be a member' page will pop up then. I think that is why 'Who's online' feature does sometimes show the guests as viewing when we know they can't.

There's only one way to read posts without becoming a member, that's by linking to Archives. Can't post nor anything else, but can read all threads, which maybe a day or so behind sometimes.

PS. my 2 posts shoulda been 1 ... :blush:

gsobier · Apr 22, 2004

Re: I wondered about the 'Quote' thingy too

Brad:

That explains everything... ...I never bothered to figure out how they are doing it. I knew there has to be a way since we see evidence constantly. I got better things to do than buggering around like that anyway. They can't post unless they register as a member so "who cares".

Regards,
George

Brad said:
a guest can click view ... but won't get too far cuz the 'you must be a member' page will pop up then. I think that is why 'Who's online' feature does sometimes show the guests as viewing when we know they can't.

There's only one way to read posts without becoming a member, that's by linking to Archives. Can't post nor anything else, but can read all threads, which maybe a day or so late sometimes.

PS. my 2 posts shoulda been 1 ...

Brad · Apr 22, 2004

Re: Re: I wondered about the 'Quote' thingy too

gsobier said:
>>> They can't post unless they register as a member so "who cares".

Regards,
George

My sentiments exactly.

One other small point: some probably register but unless they acknowledge the resulting email to confirm their pass-word (activate) they will only be able to read. Although they will display as members on logon they can't participate ... that may account for some (many?) lurkers.

I imagine some even use a fake e-mail for registration hence they never receive the confirmation.

Cheers

gsobier · Apr 22, 2004

Re: Re: Re: I wondered about the 'Quote' thingy too

Brad:

Those games are common place on the internet. Anyone can play like that. The ones who are worthy, get registered.

Regards,
George

Brad said:
My sentiments exactly.

One other small point: some probably register but unless they acknowledge the resulting email to confirm their pass-word (activate) they will only be able to read. Although they will display as members on logon they can't participate ... that may account for some (many?) lurkers.

I imagine some even use a fake e-mail for registration hence they never receive the confirmation.

Cheers

Brad · Apr 22, 2004

gsobier said:
Brad:

Those games are common place on the internet. Anyone can play like that. The ones who are worthy, get registered.

Regards,
George

I understand George, we all have our pet peeves ... don't get me started

gsobier · Apr 22, 2004

Brad:

I know what you mean, its just a sad :bawl:

fact of life on the internet

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Regards,
George

Brad said:
I understand George, we all have our pet peeves ... don't get me started

Sheba · Apr 22, 2004

Gone for a few days and look at what I missed...maybe it was a good thing? :notme:

Glad to see everyone made it through that and LT got it all fixed up again.. Some people have nothing better to do...

Sheba__ :bouncy:

~~~
Everybody's Got a Dream...JACKPOT!

Beaker · Apr 23, 2004

http://www.botbuster.com/index.php

:agree:

Lost sales, higher bandwidth expenses and heavy server load is the end result of this abuse. Bot Buster was designed to force your visitor to actually VISIT your site and view it as you intend it to be viewed

Beaker · Apr 23, 2004

I did a little test.

These bots seem to 'monitor' where members go.

I opened a window on a random page 'Beakers Lottery Web Site' in 'Anything Goes'

Not too long later this is what I saw.

Guest Viewing Forum Lotto 649 01:07 PM
Guest Viewing Thread Beaker's Lottery Web Site 01:09 PM
Guest Viewing Memberlist 01:09 PM

Evil bots

This is a little :worry:

Guest Lotto 649 Web Site Lottery Players Club Forum Main Index 01:01 PM
Guest Retrieving Password 01:11 PM
Guest Viewing Thread April 21 Best Bet.......

Maggie · Apr 23, 2004

Guest retrieving password is very scary

How can they do that?

Maggie · Apr 23, 2004

If someone had your password to log on, and say they were on the board, and you went to log on, would you be locked out? Would you get some type of msg?

Beaker · Apr 23, 2004

Maggie said:
If someone had your password to log on, and say they were on the board, and you went to log on, would you be locked out? Would you get some type of msg?

Actually, this happened on this board. A password was hacked and the person posted some extremely rude messages to me and other members here.

Not sure if you could post if someone else had your password and logged in from a different machine.

Bottom line - make sure your password is industrial strength - selections from all 5 areas - and change it the odd time. :agree:

Maggie · Apr 23, 2004

Already changed. :agree:

Pretty scary stuff..

Sheba · Apr 23, 2004

Maggie said:
Already changed. Pretty scary stuff..

Scary Indeed......

Sheba__ :bouncy:

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