lottoarchitect
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I answered based on the analysis you made with covermaster, which shows 93% for the 2nd wheel. Now I see you deleted them.
UWR - to Nick Koutras
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lottoarchitect,
A system or wheel, old or new improvement does not carry copywrite.
This is sometimes why you will not find some of the better systems available for download.
Ownership IMHO is by the first recorded finder of a system.
To publish any new system must remain at the discression of the finder.
Assuming he / she is happy that it will not be quickly reduced further.
The authors of Covermaster & Ininuga software have asked for any new findings to be credited to the software that found it.
May I suggest that you recommend any improvements in bounds found by your software "if" published also carry credits to the software that found it.
I am unable to locate any new improvements in 'bounds' listed at your website - please could you list the url.
Rgds,
SRM.
A system or wheel, old or new improvement does not carry copywrite.
This is sometimes why you will not find some of the better systems available for download.
Ownership IMHO is by the first recorded finder of a system.
To publish any new system must remain at the discression of the finder.
Assuming he / she is happy that it will not be quickly reduced further.
The authors of Covermaster & Ininuga software have asked for any new findings to be credited to the software that found it.
May I suggest that you recommend any improvements in bounds found by your software "if" published also carry credits to the software that found it.
I am unable to locate any new improvements in 'bounds' listed at your website - please could you list the url.
Rgds,
SRM.
lottoarchitect
Member
Improvements refer to open-cover wheels for now. You can check them and see what I'm talking about. When and if I break a close-cover world record wheel, I'll let you know. Small relatively wheels is very unlikely to be reduced more. Besides, the point is not always reducing tickets, there is the optimisation matter involved. Gain more with the same amount of money, given a wheel cannot be reduced more.
As for the wheels, once released in the program, I cannot control if they go away published somewhere. If the person is willing to mention the source, ok but there is no way to enforce this. The great news is that WG is always to WR wheels whilst other programs don't. I don't say I have found the complete solution to the covering design (for those who don't know, it belongs to NP-hard problems) and so far I'm more than satisfied watching WG produces wheels other systems can't (at least the known ones).
As for the wheels, once released in the program, I cannot control if they go away published somewhere. If the person is willing to mention the source, ok but there is no way to enforce this. The great news is that WG is always to WR wheels whilst other programs don't. I don't say I have found the complete solution to the covering design (for those who don't know, it belongs to NP-hard problems) and so far I'm more than satisfied watching WG produces wheels other systems can't (at least the known ones).
lottoarchitect said:
you now what lottoarch.
..you are disappointing me every day more and more. Coming here to collect information and attacking people who helped you in finding answers is pretty rude..Therefore you said about your program, if someone is interested may bay it in what I don't believe because here are a bit more numbers experts than you may imagine. So how about if you take your progie and your wheels home now ?
lottoarchitect
Member
tomtom said:you now what lottoarch.
Therefore you said about your program, if someone is interested may bay it in what I don't believe because here are a bit more numbers experts than you may imagine. So how about if you take your progie and your wheels home now ?
Interesting approach, can you please explain what things you refer to? Collecting information, like what? As for experts, I never said I'm an expert and I don't doubt there are several around here. I haven't invented wheels in first place, as nobody in here did too. I just improving more, does this insults you? Finally, which person did I attack? I suppose your post is an attack and not mine. I didn't ask you to go home for what you have said so far.
TomTom,
I am happy as a purchaser of Lotto Architect program to reap the benefit of what it has to offer including any future updates and also including the Wheel Generator program when it becomes available. I have paid for it and expect to get such benefit. If Wheel Generator turns out to be a premium wheel maker (and I suspect that it will) tell me why people like yourself should benefit from that when you have not paid for it. I see from the website that the wheel list builds and builds, and I have no doubt that building such a complement of wheels takes some time. I can wait. Access to this wheel list is one of the benefits to purchasers of the program.
From your posts you seem enthuisiastic about a program called Expert Lotto. Good for you. I see from your recent posts it has included an optimiser. Good for it. But isn't this good enough for you? You still seem to be looking over the fence to see where the grass may be greener.
I am happy as a purchaser of Lotto Architect program to reap the benefit of what it has to offer including any future updates and also including the Wheel Generator program when it becomes available. I have paid for it and expect to get such benefit. If Wheel Generator turns out to be a premium wheel maker (and I suspect that it will) tell me why people like yourself should benefit from that when you have not paid for it. I see from the website that the wheel list builds and builds, and I have no doubt that building such a complement of wheels takes some time. I can wait. Access to this wheel list is one of the benefits to purchasers of the program.
From your posts you seem enthuisiastic about a program called Expert Lotto. Good for you. I see from your recent posts it has included an optimiser. Good for it. But isn't this good enough for you? You still seem to be looking over the fence to see where the grass may be greener.
Hi trilby,trilby said:
I'm glad you are satisfied with your progie. I can't be since having a quite few lottery years behind besides getting a quite few A advanced math marks in the past . That means simply - I don't need that much time to check the accessibility, possibilites and price of a lottery program .
About ExpertLotto guys they are selling a quite powerful program at quite reasonable price, doing FREE upgrades regularly which means at the some point of time a user might expect to have a quite good lottery device,
I don't know what is your relationship with the lottoarch guy whether you are business partners or not, and actually I don't care at all. Since you are a quite polite guy will give you a freebie hint - try to make something like LottoDesigner that works with a high number of combinations and your progie will be quite OK. With some more updates than one might be quite interesting for an average lottery player. BTW, I didn't believe about that error procedure or such of yours, so didn't mention it.
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Grandmaster said:
GM-
Why have you quoted me in your posting?
Sure, Peter has a great source of information.
Dragan does not supply systems. - other than WR 49-6-3-6=163
Dan Gordon - LaJola site contains many record downloadable t=m systems.
Please chill - take a step back & consider your facts before posting.
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lottoarchitect
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SRM said:
SRM, whenever something new appears, critisism will go on till it is accepted as something new or revolutionary, or something that does not worth the trouble etc. This is normal and welcome. Only cows would accept something without criticism first. I accept you don't have any examples to make your criticism on. As for the accuracy of what I say, you know my position does not allow me to make mistakes or faulty statements. It is the same as being a teacher; you have to know 10 times more things before you can teach the 1/10 of those you know.
I'll present an example of improvements achieved by WG. I choose an C(6,14,5,6)=98 wheel (it seems this cannot be reduced further) and optimise it. You can make any tests you want on the wheels and derive your conclusions.
A C(6,14,5,6)=98 wheel
01 02 03 04 05 09
01 02 03 05 07 10
01 02 03 06 08 11
01 02 03 08 11 14
01 02 03 12 13 14
01 02 04 06 07 12
01 02 04 08 09 13
01 02 04 10 11 13
01 02 05 06 13 14
01 02 05 08 11 12
01 02 05 11 12 14
01 02 06 09 10 12
01 02 07 08 10 13
01 02 07 09 11 13
01 03 04 05 07 14
01 03 04 06 10 14
01 03 04 07 08 11
01 03 04 10 12 13
01 03 05 06 08 12
01 03 05 06 11 13
01 03 05 08 09 10
01 03 06 07 09 14
01 03 07 09 12 13
01 03 08 11 12 14
01 03 09 10 11 14
01 04 05 07 08 13
01 04 05 10 11 12
01 04 06 08 10 13
01 04 06 09 11 13
01 04 07 09 10 14
01 04 07 11 13 14
01 04 08 09 12 14
01 05 06 08 12 14
01 05 07 09 11 12
01 05 09 10 13 14
01 06 07 08 09 13
01 06 07 10 11 13
01 06 08 11 12 14
01 07 08 10 12 14
01 08 09 10 11 13
02 03 04 06 07 13
02 03 04 08 10 12
02 03 04 09 11 12
02 03 04 10 12 14
02 03 05 06 12 14
02 03 05 08 11 13
02 03 05 11 13 14
02 03 06 09 10 13
02 03 07 08 09 12
02 03 07 09 12 14
02 03 07 10 11 12
02 04 05 06 07 11
02 04 05 06 08 10
02 04 05 08 10 14
02 04 05 09 12 13
02 04 06 07 08 14
02 04 06 09 11 14
02 04 07 09 10 11
02 05 06 07 08 09
02 05 06 09 10 11
02 05 07 08 09 14
02 05 07 10 12 13
02 06 07 10 11 14
02 06 08 09 10 14
02 06 08 11 12 13
02 08 11 12 13 14
03 04 05 07 08 12
03 04 05 10 11 13
03 04 06 08 09 12
03 04 06 10 11 12
03 04 07 11 12 14
03 04 08 09 13 14
03 05 06 08 13 14
03 05 07 09 11 13
03 05 09 10 12 14
03 06 07 08 10 12
03 06 07 09 11 12
03 06 08 11 13 14
03 07 08 10 13 14
03 08 09 10 11 12
04 05 06 07 09 10
04 05 06 08 09 11
04 05 06 09 11 14
04 05 06 09 12 13
04 05 07 12 13 14
04 05 08 10 11 14
04 06 10 12 13 14
04 07 08 09 10 12
04 07 08 11 12 13
04 07 09 10 13 14
05 06 07 08 10 11
05 06 07 10 11 14
05 06 07 10 12 13
05 06 08 11 13 14
05 07 08 09 11 14
05 08 09 10 12 13
06 07 09 12 13 14
09 10 11 12 13 14
A WG C(6,14,5,6)=98 optimised wheel
01 02 03 04 05 07
01 02 03 04 07 13
01 02 03 04 08 11
01 02 03 05 11 13
01 02 03 06 12 14
01 02 03 08 09 10
01 02 04 05 07 13
01 02 04 06 09 14
01 02 04 10 12 14
01 02 05 06 07 10
01 02 05 07 09 12
01 02 05 08 11 14
01 02 06 08 12 13
01 02 07 11 13 14
01 02 09 10 13 14
01 03 04 05 08 13
01 03 04 06 10 14
01 03 04 09 12 14
01 03 05 06 09 13
01 03 05 07 11 13
01 03 05 10 12 13
01 03 06 07 08 12
01 03 06 10 11 14
01 03 07 09 10 14
01 03 09 11 12 14
01 04 05 06 11 12
01 04 05 09 10 11
01 04 06 07 08 09
01 04 06 08 10 13
01 04 07 08 10 12
01 04 07 11 13 14
01 04 08 09 12 13
01 05 06 08 09 14
01 05 08 10 12 14
01 06 07 08 10 11
01 06 07 12 13 14
01 06 08 09 10 12
01 06 08 09 11 13
01 07 08 09 10 13
01 07 08 09 11 12
01 08 10 11 12 13
02 03 04 05 11 14
02 03 04 06 10 13
02 03 04 07 08 14
02 03 04 09 12 13
02 03 05 06 08 12
02 03 05 09 10 14
02 03 06 07 09 11
02 03 06 07 09 13
02 03 07 10 11 12
02 03 07 10 12 13
02 03 08 11 13 14
02 04 05 06 08 09
02 04 05 08 10 12
02 04 06 07 11 12
02 04 06 10 11 13
02 04 07 08 13 14
02 04 07 09 10 11
02 04 09 11 12 13
02 05 06 09 11 14
02 05 06 12 13 14
02 05 07 08 11 13
02 05 08 09 10 13
02 05 10 11 12 14
02 06 07 08 10 14
02 06 09 10 11 12
02 07 08 09 12 14
03 04 05 07 08 14
03 04 06 07 09 11
03 04 06 07 10 13
03 04 06 09 10 12
03 04 06 11 12 13
03 04 07 09 12 13
03 04 07 10 11 12
03 04 09 10 11 13
03 05 06 07 12 14
03 05 06 08 10 11
03 05 07 08 09 10
03 05 07 08 13 14
03 05 08 09 11 12
03 06 08 09 13 14
03 07 08 11 13 14
03 08 10 12 13 14
04 05 06 07 10 14
04 05 06 09 13 14
04 05 07 08 11 13
04 05 07 09 12 14
04 05 10 12 13 14
04 06 08 11 12 14
04 08 09 10 11 14
05 06 07 08 12 13
05 06 07 09 11 14
05 06 09 10 12 14
05 06 10 11 13 14
05 07 09 10 13 14
05 07 10 11 12 14
05 09 11 12 13 14
06 07 09 10 12 13
I'll post next an analysis of the above wheels. Feel free to post your own conclusions.
lottoarchitect
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Coverage information - 1st wheel
------ ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
P M Tested Covered Covered% Uncovered Uncovered%
------ ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
2 2 91 91 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 3 364 364 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 4 1001 1001 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 3 364 364 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 4 1001 1001 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 4 1001 964 96.30370% 37 3.69630%
4 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
5 5 2002 564 28.17183% 1438 71.82817%
5 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
5 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
6 6 3003 98 3.26340% 2905 96.73660%
6 7 3432 761 22.17366% 2671 77.82634%
Coverage information - WG wheel
------ ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
P M Tested Covered Covered% Uncovered Uncovered%
------ ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
2 2 91 91 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 3 364 364 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 4 1001 1001 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 3 364 364 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 4 1001 1001 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 4 1001 968 96.70330% 33 3.29670%
4 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
5 5 2002 565 28.22178% 1437 71.77822%
5 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
5 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
6 6 3003 98 3.26340% 2905 96.73660%
6 7 3432 762 22.20280% 2670 77.79720%
------ ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
P M Tested Covered Covered% Uncovered Uncovered%
------ ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
2 2 91 91 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 3 364 364 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 4 1001 1001 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 3 364 364 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 4 1001 1001 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 4 1001 964 96.30370% 37 3.69630%
4 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
5 5 2002 564 28.17183% 1438 71.82817%
5 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
5 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
6 6 3003 98 3.26340% 2905 96.73660%
6 7 3432 761 22.17366% 2671 77.82634%
Coverage information - WG wheel
------ ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
P M Tested Covered Covered% Uncovered Uncovered%
------ ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------
2 2 91 91 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 3 364 364 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 4 1001 1001 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
2 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 3 364 364 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 4 1001 1001 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
3 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 4 1001 968 96.70330% 33 3.29670%
4 5 2002 2002 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
4 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
5 5 2002 565 28.22178% 1437 71.77822%
5 6 3003 3003 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
5 7 3432 3432 100.00000% 0 0.00000%
6 6 3003 98 3.26340% 2905 96.73660%
6 7 3432 762 22.20280% 2670 77.79720%
lottoarchitect
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Details information on 6 hits - 1st wheel (unfolded up to 4 hits
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6 5 4 3 2 1 0 Total %
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1 2 14 35-37 29-33 12-15 0-1 2 0.07%
1 2 11 39 33-34 11-12 0 2 0.07%
1 2 10 40 34 8 3 1 0.03%
1 2 9 41-44 30-35 9-11 1 4 0.13%
1 2 5 50 29 9 2 2 0.07%
1 1 13 39 33 10 1 2 0.07%
1 1 12 36-41 27-39 7-16 0-1 6 0.20%
1 1 11 38-42 29-38 7-13 0-3 8 0.27%
1 1 10 41 34 10 1 2 0.07%
1 1 9 46-50 24-27 12-14 0-2 5 0.17%
1 1 7 51 26 10 2 1 0.03%
1 1 6 51 23 16 0 2 0.07%
1 0 16 34 38 8 1 1 0.03%
1 0 14 37-42 27-36 8-16 0-4 11 0.37%
1 0 13 38-44 25-36 9-15 0-1 4 0.13%
1 0 12 37-45 25-37 8-16 0-3 10 0.33%
1 0 11 39-46 25-37 9-15 0-3 8 0.27%
1 0 10 48-49 21-24 14-17 0-1 5 0.17%
1 0 9 47-53 17-27 13-18 0-2 12 0.40%
1 0 8 52 22 15 0 2 0.07%
1 0 7 55 19 16 0 2 0.07%
1 0 6 52 22 17 0 2 0.07%
1 0 4 59-60 14-15 19 0 4 0.13%
0 6 6 37 41 7 1 1 0.03%
0 5 10 32 45-46 3-4 2 2 0.07%
0 5 9 33-37 37-43 6-8 2 3 0.10%
0 5 8 36-38 37-40 8-9 1 2 0.07%
0 5 7 40-41 34-38 5-11 1-2 4 0.13%
0 4 13 31 39 9 2 1 0.03%
0 4 12 33-38 32-39 9-12 1 15 0.50%
0 4 11 34-37 33-43 4-13 0-3 5 0.17%
0 4 10 36-37 37-38 8-9 1-2 5 0.17%
0 4 9 36-41 31-41 5-12 1-3 8 0.27%
0 4 8 38-45 30-42 3-11 1-3 8 0.27%
0 4 7 39-45 29-38 4-12 1-3 14 0.47%
0 4 6 39-51 23-42 5-14 0-2 8 0.27%
0 4 5 48-49 27-29 10-13 1 2 0.07%
0 4 4 47-53 22-32 10-14 1 5 0.17%
0 3 18 26 40 10 1 1 0.03%
0 3 16 33 31-32 14-15 0 2 0.07%
0 3 15 30-36 30-42 6-15 0-2 8 0.27%
0 3 14 29-36 30-42 6-14 0-2 29 0.97%
0 3 13 28-39 27-49 1-16 0-4 69 2.30%
0 3 12 32-40 28-43 4-15 0-3 33 1.10%
0 3 11 32-43 27-44 4-13 0-3 48 1.60%
0 3 10 34-42 31-40 7-14 0-2 32 1.07%
0 3 9 36-45 28-41 7-13 0-2 29 0.97%
0 3 8 42-45 29-33 10-11 1-2 18 0.60%
0 3 7 43-47 30-34 10-13 1 10 0.33%
0 3 6 43 34 11 1 2 0.07%
0 2 18 25-30 34-43 5-14 0-3 7 0.23%
0 2 17 23-32 32-51 3-15 0-2 16 0.53%
0 2 16 25-37 29-49 4-15 0-2 49 1.63%
0 2 15 28-38 27-45 5-16 0-2 130 4.33%
0 2 14 28-39 28-48 2-15 0-3 147 4.90%
0 2 13 30-42 27-45 4-16 0-4 205 6.83%
0 2 12 33-43 27-43 4-15 0-3 183 6.09%
0 2 11 35-46 25-40 6-15 0-5 104 3.46%
0 2 10 37-46 26-40 7-14 0-3 69 2.30%
0 2 9 39-45 29-38 8-14 0-2 15 0.50%
0 2 8 45 30 11 2 2 0.07%
0 1 30 3 59 3 2 1 0.03%
0 1 20 26-30 32-41 7-13 2 4 0.13%
0 1 19 27-36 26-40 9-17 0-2 11 0.37%
0 1 18 28-33 31-44 5-16 0-2 24 0.80%
0 1 17 28-37 27-44 5-16 0-3 191 6.36%
0 1 16 29-39 28-44 5-16 0-2 307 10.22%
0 1 15 30-41 27-43 5-16 0-3 468 15.58%
0 1 14 32-44 24-40 7-16 0-3 391 13.02%
0 1 13 33-43 27-44 5-16 0-3 183 6.09%
0 1 12 37-44 28-38 9-15 0-4 34 1.13%
0h 2905 0 0 0 0 0 0 3003
0% 96.74% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
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6 5 4 3 2 1 0 Total %
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1 2 14 35-37 29-33 12-15 0-1 2 0.07%
1 2 11 39 33-34 11-12 0 2 0.07%
1 2 10 40 34 8 3 1 0.03%
1 2 9 41-44 30-35 9-11 1 4 0.13%
1 2 5 50 29 9 2 2 0.07%
1 1 13 39 33 10 1 2 0.07%
1 1 12 36-41 27-39 7-16 0-1 6 0.20%
1 1 11 38-42 29-38 7-13 0-3 8 0.27%
1 1 10 41 34 10 1 2 0.07%
1 1 9 46-50 24-27 12-14 0-2 5 0.17%
1 1 7 51 26 10 2 1 0.03%
1 1 6 51 23 16 0 2 0.07%
1 0 16 34 38 8 1 1 0.03%
1 0 14 37-42 27-36 8-16 0-4 11 0.37%
1 0 13 38-44 25-36 9-15 0-1 4 0.13%
1 0 12 37-45 25-37 8-16 0-3 10 0.33%
1 0 11 39-46 25-37 9-15 0-3 8 0.27%
1 0 10 48-49 21-24 14-17 0-1 5 0.17%
1 0 9 47-53 17-27 13-18 0-2 12 0.40%
1 0 8 52 22 15 0 2 0.07%
1 0 7 55 19 16 0 2 0.07%
1 0 6 52 22 17 0 2 0.07%
1 0 4 59-60 14-15 19 0 4 0.13%
0 6 6 37 41 7 1 1 0.03%
0 5 10 32 45-46 3-4 2 2 0.07%
0 5 9 33-37 37-43 6-8 2 3 0.10%
0 5 8 36-38 37-40 8-9 1 2 0.07%
0 5 7 40-41 34-38 5-11 1-2 4 0.13%
0 4 13 31 39 9 2 1 0.03%
0 4 12 33-38 32-39 9-12 1 15 0.50%
0 4 11 34-37 33-43 4-13 0-3 5 0.17%
0 4 10 36-37 37-38 8-9 1-2 5 0.17%
0 4 9 36-41 31-41 5-12 1-3 8 0.27%
0 4 8 38-45 30-42 3-11 1-3 8 0.27%
0 4 7 39-45 29-38 4-12 1-3 14 0.47%
0 4 6 39-51 23-42 5-14 0-2 8 0.27%
0 4 5 48-49 27-29 10-13 1 2 0.07%
0 4 4 47-53 22-32 10-14 1 5 0.17%
0 3 18 26 40 10 1 1 0.03%
0 3 16 33 31-32 14-15 0 2 0.07%
0 3 15 30-36 30-42 6-15 0-2 8 0.27%
0 3 14 29-36 30-42 6-14 0-2 29 0.97%
0 3 13 28-39 27-49 1-16 0-4 69 2.30%
0 3 12 32-40 28-43 4-15 0-3 33 1.10%
0 3 11 32-43 27-44 4-13 0-3 48 1.60%
0 3 10 34-42 31-40 7-14 0-2 32 1.07%
0 3 9 36-45 28-41 7-13 0-2 29 0.97%
0 3 8 42-45 29-33 10-11 1-2 18 0.60%
0 3 7 43-47 30-34 10-13 1 10 0.33%
0 3 6 43 34 11 1 2 0.07%
0 2 18 25-30 34-43 5-14 0-3 7 0.23%
0 2 17 23-32 32-51 3-15 0-2 16 0.53%
0 2 16 25-37 29-49 4-15 0-2 49 1.63%
0 2 15 28-38 27-45 5-16 0-2 130 4.33%
0 2 14 28-39 28-48 2-15 0-3 147 4.90%
0 2 13 30-42 27-45 4-16 0-4 205 6.83%
0 2 12 33-43 27-43 4-15 0-3 183 6.09%
0 2 11 35-46 25-40 6-15 0-5 104 3.46%
0 2 10 37-46 26-40 7-14 0-3 69 2.30%
0 2 9 39-45 29-38 8-14 0-2 15 0.50%
0 2 8 45 30 11 2 2 0.07%
0 1 30 3 59 3 2 1 0.03%
0 1 20 26-30 32-41 7-13 2 4 0.13%
0 1 19 27-36 26-40 9-17 0-2 11 0.37%
0 1 18 28-33 31-44 5-16 0-2 24 0.80%
0 1 17 28-37 27-44 5-16 0-3 191 6.36%
0 1 16 29-39 28-44 5-16 0-2 307 10.22%
0 1 15 30-41 27-43 5-16 0-3 468 15.58%
0 1 14 32-44 24-40 7-16 0-3 391 13.02%
0 1 13 33-43 27-44 5-16 0-3 183 6.09%
0 1 12 37-44 28-38 9-15 0-4 34 1.13%
0h 2905 0 0 0 0 0 0 3003
0% 96.74% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
lottoarchitect
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Details information on 6 hits - WG wheel (unfolded up to 4 hits)
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6 5 4 3 2 1 0 Total %
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1 2 14 37 29 14 1 1 0.03%
1 2 13 36 35 10 1 1 0.03%
1 2 10 38-40 33-38 8-12 0-1 3 0.10%
1 2 9 41-43 31-33 11-12 0-1 4 0.13%
1 2 6 47 31 9 2 2 0.07%
1 1 14 34-38 33-34 10-13 1 4 0.13%
1 1 12 36-42 26-36 12-16 0 5 0.17%
1 1 11 38-42 30-38 8-12 0-3 5 0.17%
1 1 10 41-47 26-35 9-12 1 4 0.13%
1 1 9 45-47 25-27 14-15 0-1 3 0.10%
1 1 7 51 25 12 1 1 0.03%
1 1 6 51 24 15 0 2 0.07%
1 0 20 30 32 13 2 1 0.03%
1 0 18 30 33 15 1 1 0.03%
1 0 17 33 38 8 1 1 0.03%
1 0 16 33 37 10 1 1 0.03%
1 0 15 36 36 9 1 2 0.07%
1 0 14 38-40 28-31 9-15 0-3 7 0.23%
1 0 13 35-45 24-38 10-15 0-3 11 0.37%
1 0 12 39-44 28-36 6-16 0-3 5 0.17%
1 0 11 44-47 22-26 16-17 0 4 0.13%
1 0 10 41-51 18-36 8-18 0-4 9 0.30%
1 0 9 47-52 22-26 12-15 0-3 8 0.27%
1 0 8 48-51 20-26 15-18 0 3 0.10%
1 0 6 54-57 17-20 16-17 0 6 0.20%
1 0 4 60 14 19 0 4 0.13%
0 5 10 32 45 4 2 2 0.07%
0 5 9 37 38 8 1 2 0.07%
0 5 8 35-38 37-43 5-8 2 3 0.10%
0 5 7 37-41 33-40 8-12 0-1 5 0.17%
0 5 6 42 37 6 2 1 0.03%
0 4 13 31-33 35-39 9-13 1 13 0.43%
0 4 12 30-39 29-43 4-13 1-3 21 0.70%
0 4 11 33-37 33-42 6-12 1-2 3 0.10%
0 4 10 34-38 36-42 5-9 1-3 7 0.23%
0 4 9 35-41 32-43 4-11 1-3 6 0.20%
0 4 8 40-45 29-37 6-12 0-3 13 0.43%
0 4 7 39-48 25-41 5-14 0-2 10 0.33%
0 4 6 41-47 27-36 10-13 1 3 0.10%
0 4 5 41-51 23-41 5-14 1-2 5 0.17%
0 4 4 48-52 27-30 10-11 1 3 0.10%
0 4 3 51 25 14 1 1 0.03%
0 3 16 29-33 31-42 7-14 1 4 0.13%
0 3 15 29-36 31-43 6-15 0-2 7 0.23%
0 3 14 30-37 29-42 6-14 0-2 29 0.97%
0 3 13 29-39 28-47 4-15 0-2 61 2.03%
0 3 12 33-40 28-42 4-15 0-3 50 1.67%
0 3 11 32-43 27-43 4-14 0-3 44 1.47%
0 3 10 34-44 27-41 7-15 0-2 17 0.57%
0 3 9 37-44 28-38 8-13 0-2 19 0.63%
0 3 8 41-47 27-35 9-14 1-2 32 1.07%
0 3 7 45-46 31-32 9-11 1 4 0.13%
0 3 6 44-45 32-34 10-11 1 4 0.13%
0 2 19 26-28 39-41 6-8 2-4 3 0.10%
0 2 18 25-30 34-48 3-14 0-2 5 0.17%
0 2 17 26-33 31-43 8-16 0-2 15 0.50%
0 2 16 24-37 29-50 4-16 0-2 58 1.93%
0 2 15 28-40 27-47 4-16 0-2 115 3.83%
0 2 14 28-39 28-46 4-15 0-3 136 4.53%
0 2 13 32-42 26-43 4-16 0-4 213 7.09%
0 2 12 34-42 28-44 4-16 0-3 144 4.80%
0 2 11 36-45 26-41 6-15 0-5 115 3.83%
0 2 10 37-46 27-40 6-14 0-3 76 2.53%
0 2 9 40-45 28-37 8-14 0-2 22 0.73%
0 2 8 45 29 12 2 2 0.07%
0 1 30 3 60 0 4 1 0.03%
0 1 20 26 42 7 2 2 0.07%
0 1 19 27-36 27-39 8-16 0-3 7 0.23%
0 1 18 27-36 30-40 8-14 0-2 36 1.20%
0 1 17 29-38 26-43 6-15 0-3 133 4.43%
0 1 16 29-38 27-43 5-16 0-3 359 11.95%
0 1 15 30-41 26-44 5-16 0-3 508 16.92%
0 1 14 32-41 27-41 6-16 0-3 356 11.85%
0 1 13 35-44 25-42 5-15 0-3 185 6.16%
0 1 12 38-43 27-36 8-15 0-3 45 1.50%
0h 2905 0 0 0 0 0 0 3003
0% 96.74% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
If you cannot read the hit tables, copy-paste to a mono-space text editor. I unfolded up to the 4 hits, to see the internal increase of hits which cannot be seen by the traditional detailed report of CoverMaster. Also, make your tests and post your results if you want.
Also, the above hit tables illustrate an example where we do not have great coverage increase but we do have good improvements on hits. This is the reason I ask Nick Koutras to participate in UWR refinement as the coverage itself, is not sufficient.
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6 5 4 3 2 1 0 Total %
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1 2 14 37 29 14 1 1 0.03%
1 2 13 36 35 10 1 1 0.03%
1 2 10 38-40 33-38 8-12 0-1 3 0.10%
1 2 9 41-43 31-33 11-12 0-1 4 0.13%
1 2 6 47 31 9 2 2 0.07%
1 1 14 34-38 33-34 10-13 1 4 0.13%
1 1 12 36-42 26-36 12-16 0 5 0.17%
1 1 11 38-42 30-38 8-12 0-3 5 0.17%
1 1 10 41-47 26-35 9-12 1 4 0.13%
1 1 9 45-47 25-27 14-15 0-1 3 0.10%
1 1 7 51 25 12 1 1 0.03%
1 1 6 51 24 15 0 2 0.07%
1 0 20 30 32 13 2 1 0.03%
1 0 18 30 33 15 1 1 0.03%
1 0 17 33 38 8 1 1 0.03%
1 0 16 33 37 10 1 1 0.03%
1 0 15 36 36 9 1 2 0.07%
1 0 14 38-40 28-31 9-15 0-3 7 0.23%
1 0 13 35-45 24-38 10-15 0-3 11 0.37%
1 0 12 39-44 28-36 6-16 0-3 5 0.17%
1 0 11 44-47 22-26 16-17 0 4 0.13%
1 0 10 41-51 18-36 8-18 0-4 9 0.30%
1 0 9 47-52 22-26 12-15 0-3 8 0.27%
1 0 8 48-51 20-26 15-18 0 3 0.10%
1 0 6 54-57 17-20 16-17 0 6 0.20%
1 0 4 60 14 19 0 4 0.13%
0 5 10 32 45 4 2 2 0.07%
0 5 9 37 38 8 1 2 0.07%
0 5 8 35-38 37-43 5-8 2 3 0.10%
0 5 7 37-41 33-40 8-12 0-1 5 0.17%
0 5 6 42 37 6 2 1 0.03%
0 4 13 31-33 35-39 9-13 1 13 0.43%
0 4 12 30-39 29-43 4-13 1-3 21 0.70%
0 4 11 33-37 33-42 6-12 1-2 3 0.10%
0 4 10 34-38 36-42 5-9 1-3 7 0.23%
0 4 9 35-41 32-43 4-11 1-3 6 0.20%
0 4 8 40-45 29-37 6-12 0-3 13 0.43%
0 4 7 39-48 25-41 5-14 0-2 10 0.33%
0 4 6 41-47 27-36 10-13 1 3 0.10%
0 4 5 41-51 23-41 5-14 1-2 5 0.17%
0 4 4 48-52 27-30 10-11 1 3 0.10%
0 4 3 51 25 14 1 1 0.03%
0 3 16 29-33 31-42 7-14 1 4 0.13%
0 3 15 29-36 31-43 6-15 0-2 7 0.23%
0 3 14 30-37 29-42 6-14 0-2 29 0.97%
0 3 13 29-39 28-47 4-15 0-2 61 2.03%
0 3 12 33-40 28-42 4-15 0-3 50 1.67%
0 3 11 32-43 27-43 4-14 0-3 44 1.47%
0 3 10 34-44 27-41 7-15 0-2 17 0.57%
0 3 9 37-44 28-38 8-13 0-2 19 0.63%
0 3 8 41-47 27-35 9-14 1-2 32 1.07%
0 3 7 45-46 31-32 9-11 1 4 0.13%
0 3 6 44-45 32-34 10-11 1 4 0.13%
0 2 19 26-28 39-41 6-8 2-4 3 0.10%
0 2 18 25-30 34-48 3-14 0-2 5 0.17%
0 2 17 26-33 31-43 8-16 0-2 15 0.50%
0 2 16 24-37 29-50 4-16 0-2 58 1.93%
0 2 15 28-40 27-47 4-16 0-2 115 3.83%
0 2 14 28-39 28-46 4-15 0-3 136 4.53%
0 2 13 32-42 26-43 4-16 0-4 213 7.09%
0 2 12 34-42 28-44 4-16 0-3 144 4.80%
0 2 11 36-45 26-41 6-15 0-5 115 3.83%
0 2 10 37-46 27-40 6-14 0-3 76 2.53%
0 2 9 40-45 28-37 8-14 0-2 22 0.73%
0 2 8 45 29 12 2 2 0.07%
0 1 30 3 60 0 4 1 0.03%
0 1 20 26 42 7 2 2 0.07%
0 1 19 27-36 27-39 8-16 0-3 7 0.23%
0 1 18 27-36 30-40 8-14 0-2 36 1.20%
0 1 17 29-38 26-43 6-15 0-3 133 4.43%
0 1 16 29-38 27-43 5-16 0-3 359 11.95%
0 1 15 30-41 26-44 5-16 0-3 508 16.92%
0 1 14 32-41 27-41 6-16 0-3 356 11.85%
0 1 13 35-44 25-42 5-15 0-3 185 6.16%
0 1 12 38-43 27-36 8-15 0-3 45 1.50%
0h 2905 0 0 0 0 0 0 3003
0% 96.74% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
If you cannot read the hit tables, copy-paste to a mono-space text editor. I unfolded up to the 4 hits, to see the internal increase of hits which cannot be seen by the traditional detailed report of CoverMaster. Also, make your tests and post your results if you want.
Also, the above hit tables illustrate an example where we do not have great coverage increase but we do have good improvements on hits. This is the reason I ask Nick Koutras to participate in UWR refinement as the coverage itself, is not sufficient.
lottoarchitect
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Grandmaster said:
Well done on your collection of wheels, you are an advanced user. But I'm not a user as you understand. You should know that LA is not the only program that utilises available wheels. Also, you should know that there are other wheels you do not have access to or be able to download as their creators decided to keep them for a particular purpose. Why should my wheels be available to download or get freely when I decide to keep them for a particular purpose? My difference with many other lotto software publishers, is that I work on wheels too and create my own. So, what you say does not apply to me. I really cannot understand what is your complain about what I do.
By the way, why you delete all your messages?
lottoarchitect said:
lottoarchitect
Thanks for taking the time to post the examples.
I congratulate you for your ability to code the maths required to achieve this.
I fully understand what you are trying to / have achieved in this example.
My only remaining question is - did your software produce the original 14-6-5-6=98?
Again, every success with your product.
Rgds....
lottoarchitect
Member
SRM, if I remember well, the 1st wheel generated using ININUGA. CoverMaster could not go below 117 tickets in several runs I made and also techniques (remove dependence optimise) did not help.
WG operates in 2 different modes:
- Build wheel from scratch You set the tickets & coverage you want to have and tries to find the best possible coverage along with hit improvements. If it can detect we can reduce tickets, it does.
- Import a wheel and try to improve upon this. Then it operates as above.
Given the time required to build a wheel from scratch (annealing doesn't allow great speeds like covermaster's build & optimisation process), it is better to supply an initial wheel to begin with (eg one with 105, 120 tickets in the above example) and let the system reduce it to 98 and optimise it. The result most of the time will be the same equivalent optimized wheel, no matter the initial supplied wheel (NP-hard problems disallow 100%).
For the above example, the wheel generated from scratch and derived in 4 hours.
WG operates in 2 different modes:
- Build wheel from scratch You set the tickets & coverage you want to have and tries to find the best possible coverage along with hit improvements. If it can detect we can reduce tickets, it does.
- Import a wheel and try to improve upon this. Then it operates as above.
Given the time required to build a wheel from scratch (annealing doesn't allow great speeds like covermaster's build & optimisation process), it is better to supply an initial wheel to begin with (eg one with 105, 120 tickets in the above example) and let the system reduce it to 98 and optimise it. The result most of the time will be the same equivalent optimized wheel, no matter the initial supplied wheel (NP-hard problems disallow 100%).
For the above example, the wheel generated from scratch and derived in 4 hours.