Tips for a beginner - winning 4/4

[robertlanglois]

Hello

For the professionals who are frequent winners, winning 4/4 seems like nothing much but for a beginner like me, it has yet to happen.

I read all the messages on this board and there are lots of great tips but it seems they are almost always for someone looking for the big prize. Since I'm a beginner, I am not aiming for 8/8 right away. I want $100.

I know the basic tips, like dividing the board and looking for series that have not been drawn recently and playing them. But I also read that since 60 % of the numbers drawn come from the past 3-5 draws then I should only use those numbers. Sometimes, these tips contradict each other.

Should we use wheels? Or just random combinations?
How many different numbers should we wheel / play?
How many lines seems reasonable so that one of them gets 4/4?
How should we pick numbers?

So I thought I would start a new thread and hopefully some people will participate and we could centralize the tips that could help out beginners like me get started in Keno with small prizes like 4/4. Once we know how to win 4/4, we can try out for better prizes...

 

[Jimmy70]

robertlanglois,

Winning at Keno isn't easy ..... even with 4/4 odds 1 in 189.

I'm no expert at Ontario Daily Keno like wwwRoger. However when I play i usually wait til I have a good feeling about the draw and pick 10 numbers then i randomly put together 8-15 lines using my numbers.

I've had some success with this method winning 4/4 twice.

Hope this helps

Jimmy70

 

[robertlanglois]

Hi Jimmy

Thanks for your reply. Hopefully, others will follow.

How do you select those 10 numbers? Obviously, that's the hard part. Without the right numbers, you can play 1000 lines and win nothing.

Do you group the numbers and look for groups that were underrepresented in the previous draws? Or maybe you play the groups that are overrepresented in the previous draws?

Being from Montral, I play Quebec Banco. I thought the even numbers and the numbers in the 20s were lacking from the previous draws yesterday so I played

22-24-26-28-30

Well, 22-24-27-29 came up. No luck. So I heard the basic ideas but I can't seem to put them in practice...

 

[Jimmy70]

Roberlanglois,

I usually look at cold and hot (more likely) number groups(look at last 10 - 15darws and count which number gorups hit most to least). Once I decided on the number group(s) i want to play. I look at odd and even and high and low(last digit) to determine what to play. If they don't hit then i replay them until I get a hit or I relook my number groups. Don't over look your pairs and repeats!

Hope this tidbit helps.

Jimmy70

 

[roger.www]

robertlanglois,

Winning at Keno isn't easy ..... even with 4/4 odds 1 in 189.

I'm no expert at Ontario Daily Keno like wwwRoger. However when I play i usually wait til I have a good feeling about the draw and pick 10 numbers then i randomly put together 8-15 lines using my numbers.

I've had some success with this method winning 4/4 twice.

Hope this helps

Jimmy70

odds of winning 4/4 are significantly less than 1.189 if you are using
short cuts. Those odds (1:189) refer to the probability of getting 4/4 IF you are
drawing your numbers randomly from the entire board 1-70. But we all know that Keno averages 10 numbers every draw 1-35 and 10 numbers 36-70
so it is not necessarily to cover the entire board to get a correct4 number combo.

Now there are things that I cannot say because I have a strong suspscion
The ONT Keno people read these boards. They seem to have a very good idea of the strategies that people are using to win.
Having said this I would suggest:
-for 4 numbers you only need to play numbers from last 2 draws, 3 draws at the most. Last 2 draws average 7-12 numbers daily, more than enough to construct 4# combo. Lately the cold numbers seem to persist for several
days or even a couple of weeks. I think this is a deliberate strategy on the part of the Keno Commissioner. Playing cold numbers is just inviting a lot of pain and grief and many 3/4 combos. Just play the Keno Commissioner's numbers from today and yesterday and drop those that have hit 3 consecutive draws ( they may still come, but they are usually less likely than those with 1-2 hits over 3 draws). You will win within 3 - 6 tries.

 

[cynth63]

let me see

look at last nights banco 10 11 12 13 14 15 in a row.
they make it look so easy sometimes

if you follow some of the tips from the forumn 5,10,69 should not be playing tonight because they came up several times . i will keep an eye on them tonight's draw.

i feel since the low numbers played tonight high numbers will play example 20 and higher.
umm
cynth

 

[roger.www]

look at last nights banco 10 11 12 13 14 15 in a row.
they make it look so easy sometimes

if you follow some of the tips from the forumn 5,10,69 should not be playing tonight because they came up several times . i will keep an eye on them tonight's draw.

i feel since the low numbers played tonight high numbers will play example 20 and higher.
umm
cynth

I think you could get 0s and 6's with repeaters
such as 1 -6-10-11-55-59 -66 -67-69-70

 

[robertlanglois]

look at last nights banco 10 11 12 13 14 15 in a row.
they make it look so easy sometimes

if you follow some of the tips from the forumn 5,10,69 should not be playing tonight because they came up several times . i will keep an eye on them tonight's draw.

i feel since the low numbers played tonight high numbers will play example 20 and higher.
umm
cynth

Just to prove how HARD just picking four numbers is, you just picked three numbers that should NOT appear and TWO of them appeared tonight. This game is really hard.

 

[robertlanglois]

odds of winning 4/4 are significantly less than 1.189 if you are using
short cuts. Those odds (1:189) refer to the probability of getting 4/4 IF you are
drawing your numbers randomly from the entire board 1-70. But we all know that Keno averages 10 numbers every draw 1-35 and 10 numbers 36-70
so it is not necessarily to cover the entire board to get a correct4 number combo.

Now there are things that I cannot say because I have a strong suspscion
The ONT Keno people read these boards. They seem to have a very good idea of the strategies that people are using to win.
Having said this I would suggest:
-for 4 numbers you only need to play numbers from last 2 draws, 3 draws at the most. Last 2 draws average 7-12 numbers daily, more than enough to construct 4# combo. Lately the cold numbers seem to persist for several
days or even a couple of weeks. I think this is a deliberate strategy on the part of the Keno Commissioner. Playing cold numbers is just inviting a lot of pain and grief and many 3/4 combos. Just play the Keno Commissioner's numbers from today and yesterday and drop those that have hit 3 consecutive draws ( they may still come, but they are usually less likely than those with 1-2 hits over 3 draws). You will win within 3 - 6 tries.

Hi Roger. Thanks for the tips. If you have some more that you can give us without giving too much away to the lottery corporation, please let us know. I just want to start with four numbers. And I can't do it.

Again tonight, I had 14-15-29-30 and no good.

So if I understand correctly, you suggest to just stick to one half of the board. To choose which half, I should use the half where most of the numbers from the previous two draws came from? That way, I have some repeaters to work with I guess. But I don't know how many repeaters to use and which numbers could or won't repeat. Tonight, I thought 5 and 69 wouldn't repeat and they did.

Also, when you say 3 - 6 tries, you mean that I should succeed after 3-6 days? Because I've already played at least 50 different 4 number lines and nothing has worked.

There HAS to be some way to win this because I've seen too many people win a lot and beat the odds at this game. Hopefully, I will find out how soon.

 

[roger.www]

Hi Roger. Thanks for the tips. If you have some more that you can give us without giving too much away to the lottery corporation, please let us know. I just want to start with four numbers. And I can't do it.

Again tonight, I had 14-15-29-30 and no good.

So if I understand correctly, you suggest to just stick to one half of the board. To choose which half, I should use the half where most of the numbers from the previous two draws came from? That way, I have some repeaters to work with I guess. But I don't know how many repeaters to use and which numbers could or won't repeat. Tonight, I thought 5 and 69 wouldn't repeat and they did.

Also, when you say 3 - 6 tries, you mean that I should succeed after 3-6 days? Because I've already played at least 50 different 4 number lines and nothing has worked.

There HAS to be some way to win this because I've seen too many people win a lot and beat the odds at this game. Hopefully, I will find out how soon.

Yes, I mean about 6 days...depending on number of combinations ofcourse.
I would have to look at your lottery in more detail ..tomorrow maybe you want to stay on the left of the board

01 05 10 11 12 13 14 15 22 24
27 29 31 32
-----------------------
03 05 06 07 09 12 14 17 19 20
35 37
------------------------------------
I think you should drop 5 tomorrow, play 16* or 38* instead.

Also use numbers ending in 6, and numbers ending in 0 next few days.
Draw these from the entire board.

 

[robertlanglois]

Hi Roger. Thanks for the reply.

To help predict tonight's numbers, it seems you are looking at the numbers from the two draws that came before yesterday's draw.

I would like to know why 16 and why 38 and why Last Digit 6 and why Last Digit 0?

This gives us this:

10 - 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 - 70 - 06 - 16 - 26 - 36 - 46 - 56 - 66 - 38

That's 15 numbers that I can put into Blitzed's website to create random 4 line combinations.

How many different lines should I play to expect a good result? Is 20 lines enough?

Thanks again.

 

[roger.www]

Yes, I mean about 6 days...depending on number of combinations ofcourse.
I would have to look at your lottery in more detail ..tomorrow maybe you want to stay on the left of the board

01 05 10 11 12 13 14 15 22 24
27 29 31 32
-----------------------
03 05 06 07 09 12 14 17 19 20
35 37
------------------------------------
I think you should drop 5 tomorrow, play 16* or 38* instead.

Also use numbers ending in 6, and numbers ending in 0 next few days.
Draw these from the entire board.

You should played on the left of the board as I suggested
03 04 05 [6] 15 25 [26] 29 31 32
34 35 [40] 42 [50 ] 54 57 58 62 68
BANCO WED 05/28

 

[robertlanglois]

I don't expect to find a method that will win every single time. Just tips on selecting better numbers.

From what I understood in your post, I was supposed to pick numbers with last digit 0 or 6 from "the entire board" that's why I played those numbers.

The left side of the board was better represented this time with 12 numbers. 26 came out of retirement... was out for 13 days. I guess we should always chase the very cold numbers like that?

5 was repeated again, four draws in a row now. We also had four numbers with a last digit of 5... would have been nice to play that group but it was way over-represented in the previous four draws with 13 appearances so I didn't know they were supposed to come again. Now I guess it's the time to put them aside?

I noticed that it's been three draws in a row now with no numbers between 16 and 20. Do you think it's time to play them?

I'm still learning this game analysis. I need to learn how to select better numbers.

 

[roger.www]

I don't expect to find a method that will win every single time. Just tips on selecting better numbers.

From what I understood in your post, I was supposed to pick numbers with last digit 0 or 6 from "the entire board" that's why I played those numbers.
.

I did not mean to play those {0,6}
to the exclusion of everything else.
I also DID stress to play:
- the last 2 days
-to play on the left

I also copied the numbers for you.
I am sure that you can see that I pointed you up
the right path. You have to mix your numbers
more creatively.

 

[robertlanglois]

Hi Roger

You are right, I need help on how to mix my numbers and also on number selection. I will concentrate more on the previous two draws. That's what I did tonight and I got a better result.

I played 24-26-42-43. Result: 24-25-42-43. I'm getting close. I mixed numbers that were close to each other from the previous two draws. 24-25 was a possibility but I chose 24-26 instead. Maybe I should have played both. How many lines should I play to aim for a 4/4 win? Is 20 enough? Too much?

Hopefully, more people will join this thread and give us their hints as to a better number selection. So I can reach my goal of a 4/4 win.

 

[cynth63]

wow

Hi Roger

You are right, I need help on how to mix my numbers and also on number selection. I will concentrate more on the previous two draws. That's what I did tonight and I got a better result.

I played 24-26-42-43. Result: 24-25-42-43. I'm getting close. I mixed numbers that were close to each other from the previous two draws. 24-25 was a possibility but I chose 24-26 instead. Maybe I should have played both. How many lines should I play to aim for a 4/4 win? Is 20 enough? Too much?

Hopefully, more people will join this thread and give us their hints as to a better number selection. So I can reach my goal of a 4/4 win.

you were so close robertlangois
you can even take a chance and repeat your combination another night and it may hit.
cynth

 

[robertlanglois]

you were so close robertlangois
you can even take a chance and repeat your combination another night and it may hit.
cynth

I tried that tonight but it didn't work. That's OK, I'll find a system eventually I guess. Matching adjacent pairs from numbers of the two previous draws is the one I'm looking at now.

For example, Roger says to play numbers from the previous two draws. The number 6 came on May 28. The number 8 came on May 29. The numbers 6 and 8 have a difference of only one so I played them together on May 30. It worked because they came up. But I can't get passed that because it doesn't work all the time obviously.

Still waiting for one 4/4 win. Getting 2/4 and 3/4 while waiting.

 

[Jimmy70]

keep at it robertlangois..... once you get a hit you may hit big....


Jimmy70

 

[roger.www]

I tried that tonight but it didn't work. That's OK, I'll find a system eventually I guess. Matching adjacent pairs from numbers of the two previous draws is the one I'm looking at now.

For example, Roger says to play numbers from the previous two draws. The number 6 came on May 28. The number 8 came on May 29. The numbers 6 and 8 have a difference of only one so I played them together on May 30. It worked because they came up. But I can't get passed that because it doesn't work all the time obviously.

Still waiting for one 4/4 win. Getting 2/4 and 3/4 while waiting.

You will hit 4/4, it takes a few days but you will get there.
Just focus on last 2 days. pay attention to left and right of board
Wich last digit missing last 2 draws on left.

eg..numbers ending in digit 6 missing from left of the board 3 days ?
include a few of those.

Try to guess which pairs are coming eg:

1. 10-11
2. 69-70
3 . 55-57
4. 31-32

Then you mix like this

1 & 2
1 & 3
1 & 4
2 & 3
2 & 4
3 & 4

4 weeks ago I mixed pairs in this manner
I had 2 lines correct with $9 wager on each
and I got $1, 800.00 !!!

 

[blitzed]

nice haul Roger! ah, so you do wheel to some degree

I wish the California lottery would round out their lottery games with the addition of a standard keno game like yours. *hint* *hint* I hope they read this

until then, if I want to play keno, I have go to a casino, or some seedy joint, pushin pencils as I play their fast paced California HotSpot game that has a draw every 4 minutes. sure, that is fine if I'm in the mood...but I like pokin numbers around late night when I can't sleep.

cya,
blitzed