Sangoma-number divination

[Excellence]

Hi Springbok,

Read the thread regarding the money management. Interesting approach. I will also document myself regarding the Isolator.

The thing with the strategies is that they have ups and downs. The problem is that you might realize to late when you should stop playing a strategy and play its opposite. I am certain that in the history of your tests you can find 12 consecutive pairs that have been drawn within the 4 draw margin as I am that you can find 4 or 5 that did not. I think a change in mentality must be made. Instead of going for strategies to play draw by draw we should concentrate more on moments to play a certain strategy. This idea is incorporated in the money management presented by Fullhouse.

I know that if I choose random numbers my bankroll will sink. That is why I always compare any system with random play, as a minimum criterion. That is why I compare your strategy with random play.

 

[Springbok]

Sim files into the frontline

5 simulated files are brought into action. I wonder what will happen to their highs over the next 4 draws starting Tuesday lunchtime:

Sim-7(1).......1,5(21)
Sim-7(2).......9,25(25)
Sim-7(3).......11,20(25)
Sim-7(4).......15,34(20)
Sim-7(5)........30,37(22)

 

[struxo]

hi all

I had success with testing filters tonight. I tested pairs with 1 draw over median.I have 5 filters with pairs for swedish lotto 7/35.
I get 2-4 numbers in next draw . It was tested only on last 4-5 draws but i'm very happy with results
I'll do more tests with trips.


Delboy: "This time next year we'll be millionaires!"

 

[Springbok]

Ion Saliu replied to my question on the gap in the South African lottery draws:-




If the game format did not change, you can continue with the same data file. A real data file is like a SIMulated file. The mechanics don’t count. The only thing is the timing of various strategies.

Ideally, we should have databases with every possible drawing. But the lotteries always conduct several test drawings before the official draw. So, our data files skip many, many drawings. But the phenomenon is still random. It wouldn’t be random if the lottery commissions would eliminate certain drawings because they don’t like some numbers, or something like that.

Randomness is the only thing that counts. The machines or the lottery balls have no mathematical significance. If you compare various world lotteries with the same game format, the mathematics is the same. If you check one strategy, however, it hits at different times in various lotteries.


Now this makes playing lotteries a whole new ball game(no pun intended). We can use simulated files that suit our purposes. The simulated files I posted were hand picked by me because of the high skip ratings of the pairs. Any sim files that had the highest skip below 20 were ignored. There is enormous potential here.

 

[Excellence]

Hi Springbok,

My experiment is over. 9 pairs from 10 hit from Set1 and 7 from Set2 (hope I counted correct). Again the sets were random, and the expected value was 7.

I don’t think there is any money management that can transform random play in a profitable strategy. The system presented by Fullhouse is not a money management. It is another strategy. It is a very interesting one that deserves attention.

 

[Springbok]

Hello Excellence

This should have been obvious to you a long time ago. The bookies offer you odds on betting on numbers. The laws of probabilities are on their side. They have a house edge and must make a fortune from the suckers who bet on the 49s. These suckers bet on single numbers and make random choices. We try and give ourselves the edge by a) betting on pairs b) using computing power and skips. There are many techniques. At the moment I concentrate on the highs and test them to destruction. Constant testing reveals that they beat the house odds. Th original algorithm is great but is very effective with a high of 20+. Then even the percentage probability given by the programme is pretty good but is less accurate with the lower skips. Spend the next week or two testing the highs and keep notes of what you do.

You will notice that 3 of the predicted pairs from the random files have hit today and the two with the highest skip of 25 hit. If this is random then I am Donald Duck The highs thrash randomness.

 

[Springbok]

Well folks, the last two pairs slotted in today as expected from the forecast. The idea of simulated files has been a shock to my system as I believed the real draws were the truth, the way and the light. It makes things so much neater. I now got to build new maps in my mind to handle this. Definitely great possibilities here but you folks are really going to have to thing hard how to utilise this new knowledge. It is like discovering th earth goes around the sun and not vice versa.

 

[endbox]

Hi all

Hi all , not posted on here for some time , but still read threads when I can.
The simulated files stratergy shows great potential.........These are my generated highs for tomorrow (2nd November lunchtime)

SIM-7 (1) 8,31 (20)
SIM-7 (2) 12,17 (20)
SIM-7 (2) 12,25 (20)
SIM-7 (2) 17,25 (28)

Take care endbox

 

[Springbok]

Sim files

Hello Endbox
Long time no hear. It is good that you are experimenting with these type of files as you will build up knowledge of how they work. At the moment I am on my third trial with 2 draws to go. Altogether so far 15 pairs have been forecasted and 14 of them have slotted in within the required parameters. Just one pair left (11;20-originally 25 skips) which should hit today bringing in a 100% hit rate.

The possibilities with this strategy is that it would be theoretically possible to catch 6 pairs in the 6/49 game which would bring you within 64 combinations of the jackpot. The problem is that the programme sprays the hits over the next 4 draws. Somehow great cunning would be needed to harmonise them to all hit at the same time. With sim files you can produce an unlimited amount so you can pick and choose whatever you fancy. So these historical highs could produce all the winning pairs. The 64 combinations could reduced to 2 or 3 or 4 using Saliu's software to purge the combinations down to this level.

 

[Springbok]

Fine tuning Sim files

Is it possible to fine tune the historical highs in the sim files so that they only spray out winning pairs within the next 2 draws. Here we have 5 high skip sim files. Theoretically they should all hit today. I wonder what will happen? Testing starts at lunchtime today(Friday) and hopefully finish at teatime.

xx1..............9,42(32)
xx10............1,24(23)
xx12............10,41(24)
xx15...........11,20(24)
xx18...........30.37(22)

 

[barge]

Hi Endbox! Hi Springbok

I put half a dozen more sim files together, and tried a dry run this morning with 4 of them. the reults, considering your las comments Springbok, were as follows:
Apart from the Hots mentioned below, no filters added.

Sim9, max skip 15, : 39 43, 33 43, 9 39, 13 39 ie 9,13,43

Sim 10, max skip 25 (6 over 19!) 39 43, 33 43, 28 43. Yes, only 43

Sim 11, max skip 16, 13 47,13 14, 13 29. only: 13

Sim 12, max skip 19, 13 21,13 47,11 13,6 11, 8 11. three: 8, 11, 13
Hots: 7 36,8 11,9 11, 11 13. five: 7 8 9 11 13

Most of these were readily identifiable. Seems you were right, the answer lies in the Sims, but not necessarily all in the high skips............more work needed!
No, I didn't bet today

 

[Springbok]

Hello Barge

Well 2 of my 5 hit today, and in the first draw but the other 3 are still running and should hit sometime tomorrow. We are in unexplored territory here especially in trying to hit in the first two draws. We need to sharpen up our skills. I asked a question on Saliu's site about these sim files and mysteriously he closed the whole thread down saying it was off topic which is strange since I started the topic

The jackpot is not going to give in without a fight. As the Duke of Wellington said at Waterloo, "Hard pounding but let us see who can pound the hardest".

 

[endbox]

Hi Springbok Hi Barge

Just a quick thought , it might be worth experimenting with highs of 30+
having said that , you would have to wade through a lot of sim files.
Also would it matter which program we use to generate the simulated files ie Util 7 or MDIEditor ?

 

[taaroa]

Hi

I have the idea that all strategies work but for a time only. Suddenly it doesn't work anymore some drawings then come up again. There are cycles.

If we could find why there are cycles then we can go ahead and make profitable bets. Changing strategies again and again will not give the solution. Just find when one strategy work and why.

I use the fullhouse strategy with fullhouse, endbox and mine grids and another which look at strikes in 100 drawings cycle. I have observed that these strategies doen't work at the same time. I'm searching when to use a particular strategy. I also use springbox pair files with 800 drawings. Qualified pair 8-9 pop up at lunchtime with 2 numbers.

taaroa

 

[Springbok]

Just a quick thought , it might be worth experimenting with highs of 30+
having said that , you would have to wade through a lot of sim files.
Also would it matter which program we use to generate the simulated files ie Util 7 or MDIEditor ?

I would use MDIED. Sometimes util6.exe or Util7.exe repeats exactly the same sim file. Mdied uses a different seed each time you use it. There is going to be a lot of experimenting here if we are to achieve 6 pairs hitting together. If you can do this you have basically solved the lottery problem for the jackpot. Remember we can use an unlimited number of sim files. Do not forget the other filters like intbetweeners etc. The answer lies in the sim files.

I wonder why Saliu does not want to discuss these sim files?

 

[Springbok]

Hi Endbox

Just a quick thought , it might be worth experimenting with highs of 30+
having said that , you would have to wade through a lot of sim files.
Also would it matter which program we use to generate the simulated files ie Util 7 or MDIEditor ?

This may be an idea worth looking into. Ok, we will have to look at many sim files but we are after millions of pounds. Maybe it is worth it.

 

[endbox]

Hi Springbok

Ok , after trawling through many sim files , the maximum no show for a pair I've found is 42
That's analysing at least 30 files of 3000 draws a piece !

These are my 4 pairs starting tomorrow lunchtime (4th Nov , 49's)

20,47 (33)
38,39 (28)
44,49 (34)
21,26 (28)

Take care endbox

 

[Springbok]

Hi Endbox and Barge

Well 4 tests have been completed. 20 pairs were forecasted and 18 hit within the four draw parameter but there is no harmonising to get multiple hits in a single combination yet. I still don't believe that the sim files can be this accurate-it does not make sense to me.We are getting a 9 to 1 strike rate. Will post another 5 pairs for the next 4 draws hoping they will fail or to prove the sim file idea is not true and the results so far are flukes like a once in a blue moon scenario.

 

[endbox]

Hi Springbok , Hi Barge

As you say Springbok to all intense & purposes , all this doesn't make a whole lot of sense.......The pairs I posted were for the 49's tomorrow.
So the first draw could have been tonight's Uk lotto
(Pair 44,49 at 34 no split ......No 49 appearing !!)

Hope you understand where I'm coming from......This is becoming confusing

 

[Springbok]

Hi Endbox

At this stage it makes no sense. If you produce high skip pairs for the 7/49 game, in this case for the 49s lottery then why cannot these pairs be used for any 7/49 game in the world? Also why not keep these pairs fixed-in other words use them again and again. This would mean we would keep the same sim files without change. This seems ridiculous.

With the real draws we are following the results produced by a certain machine over time. This makes sense. But the machine that produces the results has no knowledge of the history of its draws so the history draws would be no different from the simulated draws.

Tomorrow I will produce 5 high skip simulated pairs also I will produce 5 pairs randomly generated by the computer and then compare the performance of both groups over 4 draws. In Saliu's Dos programs and MDIED, simulated combinations make up the bulk of the combinations but the real draws in the Dos programs have their statistical reporting referenced to the simulated draws in the 4 layers of each D* file.

I still wonder why Saliu shut down the thread on this topic. Most mysterious.