Sangoma-number divination

Springbok

Member
Bad advice from people who should know better

<<Once you've selected your 6 numbers, stick with them ! People claim that they want to change their numbers each draw to either select numbers that have come up the most or the least. This is flawed logic I'm afraid, because the lottery does not depend on past history (unlike blackjack), so every one of the 14 million-odd combinations of 6 numbers is equally likely in every single draw. It's also the reason why writing a computer program to predict lottery numbers is a stupid and pointless task (just call the random number generator 6 times - that's just as good as any other method).>>

The above is some of the advice from Merseyworld a UK lottery site on picking numbers. it is amazing how wrong advice can be. This is probably a plot to stop people winning. Our strategies depend entirely on previous draws. Previous draws do give an indication of future developments. We have proved this on this thread. Here is another example. If you had a 7 million draw file for the 6/49 and in the previous 3 draws the results were below the median, then it is very likely that the next draw will be above the median and you can discount the 7 million draws contained in the file. So all the 14 million possible combinations cannot have equal chances of being drawn.
 

Patrick123

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I just did a direct transfer from the program.

Code:
Number 	 Pair N+x>=H 	 Pair% N+x>=H 	 Trip N+x>=H 	 Trip% N+x>=H 	 Tot N+x>=H 	 Tot% N+x>=H 
 2 	 -   	 -   	 48 	 50 	 48 	 50 
 5 	 4 	 54 	 58 	 49 	 62 	 50 
 8 	 4 	 72 	 58 	 49 	 62 	 50 
 43 	 2 	 100 	 39 	 49 	 41 	 50 
 34 	 7 	 45 	 85 	 49 	 92 	 49 
 32 	 4 	 40 	 70 	 48 	 74 	 48 
 15 	 1 	 100 	 70 	 47 	 71 	 47 
 18 	 1 	 55 	 56 	 47 	 57 	 47 
 41 	 7 	 71 	 84 	 46 	 91 	 47 
 35 	 2 	 50 	 79 	 46 	 81 	 46 
 42 	 1 	 25 	 57 	 46 	 58 	 46 
 23 	 -   	 -   	 35 	 45 	 35 	 45 
 44 	 -   	 -   	 16 	 45 	 16 	 45 
 49 	 1 	 29 	 50 	 46 	 51 	 45 
 6 	 -   	 -   	 58 	 44 	 58 	 44 
 22 	 -   	 -   	 7 	 43 	 7 	 43 
 48 	 -   	 -   	 2 	 43 	 2 	 43 
 7 	 -   	 -   	 25 	 42 	 25 	 42 
 17 	 -   	 -   	 31 	 42 	 31 	 42 
 3 	 -   	 -   	 1 	 41 	 1 	 41 
 40 	 -   	 -   	 4 	 41 	 4 	 41 
 16 	 -   	 -   	 2 	 39 	 2 	 39 
 36 	 -   	 -   	 1 	 35 	 1 	 35

Pairs of interest relating to #8:
Code:
Pair MaxVal Last Drawn N+x>=H 
32-08-01 18 18 100 
41-08-01 18 18 100 
34-08-01 17 15 75 
07-08-05 17 16 60

Trips of interest relating to #8:

Code:
Triple MaxVal Last Drawn N+x>=H 
32-08-05 16 16 100 
34-08-05 15 15 100 
41-08-05 16 16 100 
8-15-32 12 12 100 
8-15-41 12 12 100 
8-32-34 15 15 100 
8-32-35 15 15 100 
8-32-41 18 18 100 
8-32-43 18 18 100 
8-34-43 15 15 100 
8-41-43 18 18 100 
8-18-32 11 10 80 
08-05-02 14 10 77 
41-08-02 11 10 75 
8-32-42 11 9 75 
08-07-05 10 7 68 
43-08-05 17 16 66 
8-15-18 11 10 66 
8-15-34 13 12 66 
8-18-34 12 10 66 
8-35-41 16 15 66 
34-08-02 11 10 60 
8-18-41 14 10 60 
15-08-02 13 10 57 
43-08-02 13 10 57 
8-23-34 11 7 57 
18-08-06 11 8 54 
8-17-42 10 8 54 
23-08-06 11 7 52 
18-08-02 12 10 50 
35-08-02 13 10 50 
08-06-05 11 8 50 
15-08-05 15 12 50 
8-15-43 13 12 50 
8-15-49 11 9 50 
8-34-35 17 15 50 
8-34-41 16 15 50 
8-34-49 11 9 50 
8-41-42 12 9 50 
8-42-49 13 9 50 
41-08-06 11 8 46 
32-08-06 12 8 44 
15-08-07 11 7 44 
8-15-17 10 8 44 
8-23-41 11 7 44 
08-07-02 11 7 41 
08-07-06 11 7 41 
42-08-02 13 9 37 
17-08-06 12 8 36 
8-17-43 12 8 35 
35-08-05 17 15 33 
8-32-49 11 9 33 
8-41-49 13 9 33 
8-35-49 13 9 28 
15-08-06 9 8 25 
35-08-07 11 7 25 
8-15-35 16 12 25 
8-34-42 13 9 16

I have not had time to analyse the values but I hope this gives you some assistance.

Regards
Patrick
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Patrick, just downloaded the latest incarnation of your programme. Cool man, very very cool or LEKKER^100. it does what my stuff does but much more quickly and much more sophisticated like. I am beginning to understand some of it now. How do you update the Thunderball file if I wanted to put in the latest draws? I am wondering about the inclusion of the actual Thunderball with the 5 number section. More of that later. I am jealous of your programming skills. I better lift my game with VB 6. You have done a great service to the folk on this thread in particular and the board in general.The lottery folk here can go to where they have never been before in research. You cannot beat South African expertise. CONGRATULATIONS. They now have the tool to use sangoma. It has taken me some time to get into your stuff as I was wedded to my Great Trek stuff which works more slowly but extremely efficiently. I am still wedded to it but my eyes are wandering:) :) Once again, well done:beer:
 

Springbok

Member
Sangoma strikes

The trip and the pair hit teatime simultaneously:dance1: . Both were on their historical highs and by logic should have come in and they did as promised. Now according to advice given by Merseyworld we should ignore previous draws as they have no bearing on future draws. Who is kidding who? Whoever wrote that should be awarded a prize for being the the biggest mpara(foolish person) in the whole of Liverpool and the surrounding areas.
 
Good day. Patrick I created a text file whit the last 875 draws at the 49s I loaded it in the program an I went to Ball Analysis. I do not get how did you obtained those images that you posted. I pressed on Ball Analysis, Pairings and Triples, I tried to sort them but I did not achieved that, always I obtained the same thing. I do not understand much of it, what should I look for exactly?
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi Springbok,
Thanks, for the vote of confidence, I'm sure the program's just going to get better & better,:agree:
At this stage there is no facility to update files, but I'll add in some functionality to allow this (maybe a text editor initially).
You are also capable of setting the number of balls to 14 and draw size to 1 if you want to run the Thunderball numbers by themselves. At this stage, I'm analysing them individually.

Hi Excellence,
My apologies for the mis-understanding. I used the program to get the values, saved it as a csv file, loaded it into Excel where I then sorted and trimmed accordingly. I will be adding this functionality into the program soon. The sorting feature that's currently available in the program works on the hit/miss history only.

Regards
Patrick
 

Patrick123

Member
Okay, I've modified the Ball Analysis Grid. You are able to resize and move the columns and rows by dragging the Column/Row Header or the border of the column.
Selecting a cell in a column(left click) then right click will allow you to sort/reverse sort by that column.
I'm now going to start working on the ability to update the drawings from within the program.
 

Patrick123

Member
Another enhancement that I've just added, on the Draw Analysis screen, I've added in what would have been the stats to look for, for the last draw. You can display the balls' stats. Pairs and Trips that included one of the numbers drawn, or Pairs or Trips where both or all three balls where included in the draw. You also have the capability of sorting, and moving or resizing the columns or rows.
The N+x>=H value is the percent probability using the current skip value as it would have been before the hit.

Be aware that sorting the Doubles and Trips (on both the Ball and Draw analysis screen) might take a bit of time and give the impression that your machine has frozen.
Regards
Patrick
 
Great enhancements Patrick. Especially the Drawing Analysis. As far as I can see this will be a great way for further improvements and creating new strategies. Also the possibility to sort the columns works great. I would like to verify myself at the beginning, just to see if I got it right. The best pairs for today’s lunchtime draw are 5, 32 and 32, 41?
 

Springbok

Member
Hi patrick123
Looking closely at your programme. When I load my 49s(7 number results) file into the programme using the 6 number marker it loads. When I try to load with the 7 ball marker it will not load. Get a warning saying < " is not a valid integer value > The date screen is blue with the * sign there. I tick the no date area as none of my lottery databases have dates. The data is in file format-that is has the little windows dingus on it. Most puzzling. Any ideas?
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi Springbok,
If you don't have a Date field, the program will just put in the "*". the easiest way to find the fault, is to click the okay message for the error then scroll down the grid. The line showing is the line before the error. The data from Blue Square has some faults "{}" on their booster ball. I will modify the program to give a more friendly message.

Hi Excellence,
Thanks, the sort is not the fastest (bubble sort), especially on the trips, but I'll improve on that as well. I'll put my predictions down here a little later as well.

Regards
Patrick
 
I believe I know what the problem is Springbok. You need the key in front of every draw in the text file. For the latest draw the key is one and so on. I update this in Excel first and after copy it in text format. Hope this helps.
 

Springbok

Member
Thanks Excellent and Patrick for the advice. I will fool around with it later. No rush as my alpha, beta etc files produce superb results although slower. Still thinking, why have a key in the data files and why have a date. They have no significance in the analysis, they take up unecessary space. That space that could be used for further developments. Since deliberately aiming to hit twice in the next draw, I know 3 hits are within range. Have to adjust my thinking though. In the end the problem will be filling in the remaining 3 slots of the lottery. I think the key here will be with simulated drawings. All draws have a certain harmonic whether real or simulated and one has to tune in to that.
Excellence my files predict either {32; 41} or {41:43}. Why you have included number 5 puzzles me.
The thing that puzzles me with real vs simulated drawings is does it matter. The machine which produces the winning balls does not know what happened previously. Yet we know previous draws influence our judgement of what could happen next. Does a particular lottery produce a morphic field a la Rupert Sheldrake? The world is a strange place. Why not use the South African lottery data file to predict the Uk result? Much research needed here.
I used to play Gregorian chants on the computer to soothe me in lottery research. The peculiar thing was the computer produced 3 number hits over and above the statistical expectations when I ran a series of random drawings. When I stopped the chants results dropped to expectations. Most peculiar. The word is definitely a strange place.
 
It would be great Patrick if we could bypass that field, a lot more functionality.
Regarding my prediction. After I loaded the file I went to Ball Analysis, Draw Probability and sorted the fields after Pair% n+x>=H. Because 32 was the first number I went to Pairs analysis and analyzed al the pairs that contained 32. Again I sorted the n+x>=H column and the first two pairs were 5-32 and 32-41 (great thing this sorting method Patrick, I was able to play a lot). After you posted your prediction I began to play again whit the fields, sort them. I realized that after I loaded the file, I have to go to Ball Analysis and sort the B Med. Due field in Draw probability. Indeed the first three numbers in that field where 32, 43 and 41. I believe now I got it right ah?
 
Also I don’t believe that mechanic has any relation whit the lotteries. On one hand they say that there is no relation between the numbers drawn and the past and on the other hand they give you a lot of statistics like: the last draws from a certain machine or all the draws from a certain hour and so on. I really don’t think that there is a relation.
 

Springbok

Member
You got it Excellent. Your predictions fall in line with the predictions from my files. I was going to post a prediction for two strikes at lunchtime but am feeling lazy at the moment. Once I get Patrick's software up and running properly it will speed up my search for triplets. Maybe I will try for teatime. I put Excel on the computer(never used it before) and will try and import the data to export it again and see whatsup.
 

Patrick123

Member
Yep, those are the same values I'm getting. 5,34,and 15 are also starting to show signs of life. What I'm doing at this stage, is looking at the pairs that reflect 100% probability, and looking at trying to get some sort of correlation with relation to pairs and trips that have those numbers in it, relating to the 'rebalance' value as well as the 'median due' that stand out. So far number 23 is showing signs of promise. The idea is then to look at other trips and pairs with the new value (in this case 23 as well as the original value) and see their relationship, so logically building up the draw chain.
Regards
Patrick
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Patrick, I managed to export your NZ data onto Excel and can now see how you set it up in the cells. Col A is the draw number, Col B is the date, and the actual draws start at Cell C. I am quite pleased with myself having rapidly seen how excel works and can intuit how the the data is read by the program.
 

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