Sangoma-number divination
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Patrick123
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Hi lottowine,
I've never played Keno, so I'm not in a position to answer you accurately. Since Keno, like Lotto, is simply a random selection of balls drawn, albeit a larger number of balls drawn and a larger pool of balls, the theories discussed here are sound for the drawing of random numbers, thus I cannot see any reason why the methods should not work. The program was originally written with lotto in mind, but since then, I have modified it to cater for most ranges of scenarios. I have in fact downloaded a Keno results file and will be testing the performance.
I would suggest you re-read this complete thread, to get an idea how everything comes together so that you can get the most out of the program.
Just a warning, the program is quite memory intensive, so ensure you run it on a reasonable computer.
Regards
Patrick
I've never played Keno, so I'm not in a position to answer you accurately. Since Keno, like Lotto, is simply a random selection of balls drawn, albeit a larger number of balls drawn and a larger pool of balls, the theories discussed here are sound for the drawing of random numbers, thus I cannot see any reason why the methods should not work. The program was originally written with lotto in mind, but since then, I have modified it to cater for most ranges of scenarios. I have in fact downloaded a Keno results file and will be testing the performance.
I would suggest you re-read this complete thread, to get an idea how everything comes together so that you can get the most out of the program.
Just a warning, the program is quite memory intensive, so ensure you run it on a reasonable computer.
Regards
Patrick
Patrick123
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I've picked up a few limitations on the number of balls in the draw (still sitting at max of 7) in the program, so it is still not quite 'Keno-ready' yet. Hopefully this will be rectified soon.
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Patrick
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Patrick
Patrick123
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The update of the program is now available. Keno now works fine as well. I changed the array types from integer to byte - massive savings in memory 
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Patrick
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Patrick
Patrick123
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Well it's now time to start putting all these bits & pieces together.
Using Draw Probability on the last 1000 draws, these are the top rankings in each category:
I expect at least 3 numbers to be in the draw.
Note: This is the quick and dirty method of looking for numbers. We should actually now analyse them under normal to eliminate more numbers or zoom in on others.
Regards
Patrick
Using Draw Probability on the last 1000 draws, these are the top rankings in each category:
Code:
Singles
32 44 13 03 04
40 35
04 16 39 03 32
04 46 32 44 03
01 04 08 23 38
41 27 14 38
47 06 22 16 42
24 06 11 29 49
28 43 26 46 49
35 19 22
Pairs
04 15 09 01 14
29 45 22 35
39
15 14 44 41 27 13 36
39 04
09 36
08 19
42 05 16 06
18 33
28 26 34 43
45 35 29
04
Trips
19 27 13
33 05 47
05 06
42 05 06 16
42 16 18 06 33
11 36 26 10 27
17 38 37 05
Summary
01 04 05 06 08 09 11 14 15 16 17 18 19 24
27 28 32 33 35 38 39 40 41 42 45 46 47I expect at least 3 numbers to be in the draw.
Note: This is the quick and dirty method of looking for numbers. We should actually now analyse them under normal to eliminate more numbers or zoom in on others.
Regards
Patrick
Patrick123
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Summary
01 04 05 06 08 09 11 14 15 16 17 18 19 24
27 28 32 33 35 38 39 40 41 42 45 46 47
Not too bad, 6 out of the seven balls drawn from 27 balls selected
Now just to start cutting down on the number of balls selected.
In fact, if I'd just taken the first ball from each sorting, I would have still had 6 in but much less balls selected(22).
Regards
Patrick
01 04 05 06 08 09 11 14 15 16 17 18 19 24
27 28 32 33 35 38 39 40 41 42 45 46 47
Not too bad, 6 out of the seven balls drawn from 27 balls selected
Now just to start cutting down on the number of balls selected.
In fact, if I'd just taken the first ball from each sorting, I would have still had 6 in but much less balls selected(22).
Regards
Patrick
Hi Patrick
I am getting to grip with the latest incarnation of the software. Thinking about the labelling of the skip 1, skip 2 columns etc, it would be more accurate and perhaps lead to less confusion if they were defined in cycles. Skip 1 would become the current skip cycle(in many cases it is not complete as it can be ongoing). Skip 2 would be skip cycle 2 and so on.
The final frontier will be to catch pairs in the previous draws ranging from 7 to 12 where we normally expect to find two winning numbers. I will be experimenting with some techniques which I call Sniper, skip of skips and Perfect Storm.
I am getting to grip with the latest incarnation of the software. Thinking about the labelling of the skip 1, skip 2 columns etc, it would be more accurate and perhaps lead to less confusion if they were defined in cycles. Skip 1 would become the current skip cycle(in many cases it is not complete as it can be ongoing). Skip 2 would be skip cycle 2 and so on.
The final frontier will be to catch pairs in the previous draws ranging from 7 to 12 where we normally expect to find two winning numbers. I will be experimenting with some techniques which I call Sniper, skip of skips and Perfect Storm.
Patrick123
Member
Hi Springbok,
I agree my terminology stinks a bit. I'll relabel them.
That sounds good. Even though the rough method that I used above produced results, it is still not as consistent as what we'd like.
I agree my terminology stinks a bit. I'll relabel them.
That sounds good. Even though the rough method that I used above produced results, it is still not as consistent as what we'd like.
Your result for the lunchtime draw was excellent, way beyond random expectations. This is living proof of the basic correctness of the theoretical assumptions that are being used. More important is the psychological comfort you get when you know you are starting to beat the odds. This spurs you on to greater efforts. Look at your prediction for the UK lottery. Three numbers and two hit. This is phenomenal. I bet you were delighted. Frrom my view, I have in the last 4 draws hit every time with a predicted pair in the very next draw using a mixture of draadsitters and historical highs. Again this is living proof of the accuracy of the basic assumptions concerning these two techniques.
Looking at the programme, in the last draw column, the pair or whatever that hit in the last draw is left blank. Perhaps a zero would make it better.
Looking at the programme, in the last draw column, the pair or whatever that hit in the last draw is left blank. Perhaps a zero would make it better.
Patrick123
Member
I agree, this is starting to take shape nicely.
The 'In Draw' column only comes into play when you load historical results, then it will show a 1,2,3 e.g. with for the pair {18,19} it will show a 2, because both balls came in. It is only for the skips, that I show the zero, otherwise the grid will start looking too cluttered.
I've been playing with some old Keno results that I was able to download, and I can see the exact same principles working there as well
The 'In Draw' column only comes into play when you load historical results, then it will show a 1,2,3 e.g. with for the pair {18,19} it will show a 2, because both balls came in. It is only for the skips, that I show the zero, otherwise the grid will start looking too cluttered.
I've been playing with some old Keno results that I was able to download, and I can see the exact same principles working there as well
turtle0747
Member
FLA 6/53 Patrick123 Springbok
Patrick123 Springbok
I have been following your program development. I took 19 numbers from past draws of 4 and 3 times during the last 20 draws and used your wheel program. It hit 3 of the 6! I am still learning about Winalotto to use this for 6/53. The lotto is up to $52 Mil. Any help would be appreciated!!!
Turtle0747
Patrick123 Springbok
I have been following your program development. I took 19 numbers from past draws of 4 and 3 times during the last 20 draws and used your wheel program. It hit 3 of the 6! I am still learning about Winalotto to use this for 6/53. The lotto is up to $52 Mil. Any help would be appreciated!!!
Turtle0747
Springbok
I remember a discussion on the Isolator site that involved finding three number bridges. At the time I was busy concentrating on other things, do you remember anything useful about it? I had a quick look and couldn't figure how you could locate a trigger, 13 or so draws in advance?
I remember a discussion on the Isolator site that involved finding three number bridges. At the time I was busy concentrating on other things, do you remember anything useful about it? I had a quick look and couldn't figure how you could locate a trigger, 13 or so draws in advance?
Skip of skips
We are going to look at techniques to track down numbers in the skip zones from 7 to 12 inclusive.It is in this area where we can pick up two winning numbers usually.I call this technique Skip of Skips.
Here is the state of play before lunch(Thursday) on the 49s game. We are listening to what the skips are telling us and ignore the actual real numbers.It is experimental at the moment:-
skip
zone
7.----{7,27}
8.----{8}
9.----{12,41}
10.---{9,36}
11.---{15,48}
12.---{1}
Below is the skipping report using Saliu's Skips.exe. The skipping report reflects the skip values of the winning numbers for the previous 10 draws. In this example the skips from the last draw are not just telling us what they intend to do at the lunchtime draw but are screaming at us. The basic assumption on skips of skips is that skip values(medium to high) do not repeat in the very next draw. Also if skip values are over represented then they will not repeat in the next draw.
Looking at the skip report on line 1 , skip values 7 and 8 should not repeat at lunchtime. This knocks out two of the skip values. Skip value 11 has appeared twice in line 2 and line 3. So we knock out skip value 11. We are left with skip value 9,10 and 12. The 12 consists of 1, so we stick it on say skip value 10. We have a trip and a pair. One winning lunchtime number (12) was contained in the pair {12,41} and the other winning number(9) was contained in the trip (1,9,36). You now see why the skip values were screaming at us.
With this favourable circumstance, sangoma enters jackpot territory and becomes a very powerful technique.
* LOTTO-7 Skipping Report by Draw
File: 49SB; Date: 08-23-2007
Draws Analyzed: 100
Line Any Any Any Any Any Any Any
no. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
-----------------------------------------------
1 3 1 2 8 2 2 7
2 7 19 2 5 11 14 4
3 3 2 11 4 6 8 1
4 9 6 6 21 1 1 3
5 3 3 4 4 1 4 1
6 6 7 1 1 14 12 5
7 24 4 3 10 1 1 11
8 5 2 4 9 10 4 2
9 11 15 9 2 5 15 6
10 4 11 1 11 2 22 17
We are going to look at techniques to track down numbers in the skip zones from 7 to 12 inclusive.It is in this area where we can pick up two winning numbers usually.I call this technique Skip of Skips.
Here is the state of play before lunch(Thursday) on the 49s game. We are listening to what the skips are telling us and ignore the actual real numbers.It is experimental at the moment:-
skip
zone
7.----{7,27}
8.----{8}
9.----{12,41}
10.---{9,36}
11.---{15,48}
12.---{1}
Below is the skipping report using Saliu's Skips.exe. The skipping report reflects the skip values of the winning numbers for the previous 10 draws. In this example the skips from the last draw are not just telling us what they intend to do at the lunchtime draw but are screaming at us. The basic assumption on skips of skips is that skip values(medium to high) do not repeat in the very next draw. Also if skip values are over represented then they will not repeat in the next draw.
Looking at the skip report on line 1 , skip values 7 and 8 should not repeat at lunchtime. This knocks out two of the skip values. Skip value 11 has appeared twice in line 2 and line 3. So we knock out skip value 11. We are left with skip value 9,10 and 12. The 12 consists of 1, so we stick it on say skip value 10. We have a trip and a pair. One winning lunchtime number (12) was contained in the pair {12,41} and the other winning number(9) was contained in the trip (1,9,36). You now see why the skip values were screaming at us.
With this favourable circumstance, sangoma enters jackpot territory and becomes a very powerful technique.
* LOTTO-7 Skipping Report by Draw
File: 49SB; Date: 08-23-2007
Draws Analyzed: 100
Line Any Any Any Any Any Any Any
no. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
-----------------------------------------------
1 3 1 2 8 2 2 7
2 7 19 2 5 11 14 4
3 3 2 11 4 6 8 1
4 9 6 6 21 1 1 3
5 3 3 4 4 1 4 1
6 6 7 1 1 14 12 5
7 24 4 3 10 1 1 11
8 5 2 4 9 10 4 2
9 11 15 9 2 5 15 6
10 4 11 1 11 2 22 17
Patrick123
Member
Pleasure lottowine.
Hi barge,
The draw probability for pairs and trips, summarises/weights the info for each ball with respect to their info that is contained in the pairs and trips. The sheer volume of info 18 columns for each category made me split the info into the 3 screens compared to the original 1 screen of the old version.
Well Springbok, it looks like we're starting to see our destination in the distance Let me study your example so that we can get that elusive '12' as well.
Regards
Patrick
Hi barge,
The draw probability for pairs and trips, summarises/weights the info for each ball with respect to their info that is contained in the pairs and trips. The sheer volume of info 18 columns for each category made me split the info into the 3 screens compared to the original 1 screen of the old version.
Well Springbok, it looks like we're starting to see our destination in the distance
Let me study your example so that we can get that elusive '12' as well.Regards
Patrick
Well Patrick, there is a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. What is intriguing is that maybe we could give a tentative answer to Einstein's question. Does God play dice with the universe? Or maybe we should rephrase it into- Does God play dice with balls in the lottery machine?
Patrick123
Member
I'm certain God's got his hand in everything and sometimes I think that He gives those balls an extra whirl
Looking back at your example, 12 is reflecting a skip of 5 only (brawn as bonus on (19th) and 8 a skip of 4 (also drawn on 19th). Could I ask you to confirm this, as it may now change the theory?
Thanks
Patrick
Looking back at your example, 12 is reflecting a skip of 5 only (brawn as bonus on (19th) and 8 a skip of 4 (also drawn on 19th). Could I ask you to confirm this, as it may now change the theory?
Thanks
Patrick