Sangoma-number divination

Patrick123

Member
Hi Spingbok,
alpha6(1) {1,2,3,4,5,6}
bravo6(6) { 1,2, 13, 20,37,40}

Notice the intersection at 1, 2.
This is the 'weighting' that my program does on the draw probability screen on the 'Ball Analysis' tab, it essentially tallies these weights up for the pairs and trip, thus 1 & 2 will end up with a higher weight than the rest.

Thanks Springbok, you'll see, selecting the column and right-clicking and sorting it will also allow you to get a nicer picture of the trips.


Hi Struxo,
Yes, I was having a look at the possibility of allowing the program to be used for Keno... Watch this space :)

Hi barge,
This is the problem, having too many choices, and which is the best one to use for the draw :(
I was actually thinking of creating a 'Past History' screen, where the program can summarise say, the last 50 draws, and show you which of the options performed the best.

Regards
Patrick
 

barge

Member
Hi Patrick123

That sounds like an excellent suggestion. In a sense (thanks to your efforts) we are spoiled for choice........but the options available are proving to be very useful, and could prove to be profitable. Now that I understand broadly what is going on with the software, I will start looking at one or two ideas concerning groups that might help, I will post if I get any meaningful results.
 
Fla 6/53

Patrick123 Springbok

I followed instructions to get the top 4 numbers and went to Predict Numbers and entered them in. Which columns do I sort? Don't know what you mean by 'opening batsmen' and 'fence-sitters'?? Do I use my whole history file? I noticed the last 6 numbers popped up within the last 20 draws. Can send someone the history file and get an opionion!!!

Thanks
turtle0747
 

bloubul

Member
Springbok
Stay "in die vreemde vir so lank jy kan" Our new brothers and sisters are not to kind these days. You don't miss a thing. Lets rather start a syndicate by you and make some money? Thanks for the link. About the kindness i'm not joking.

BlouBul :cool:
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Patrick
I was in the library last Saturday and lo and behold I espy a book entitled VBA and Excel. I assume your programme is based on the use of VBA. What amazes me is how you cram all the facilities onto the IDE. It makes me wonder why I did not do the same using the VB 6 IDE. It would have speeded up the analysis,

This gets me thinking. Ok, it links with the way I think. If you take a file like alpha(2), you have a limited universe of 24 pairs. Would it be possible to have a facility whereby a person could construct their own alpha, bravo etc files. These files always remain static. A particular file could be called upon to convert the real drawings according to the specific format. The analysis would be done under a single number eg alpha1 could represent a certain pairing and so on. When a person analyses the file , the 24 pair universe supplies a context in the analysis. In a 24 pair universe using the 6/49 scenario, 6 of those pairs will appear in the next draw. With your programme, the context is 1176 pairings. I am looking ahead at forecasting all the 6 pairings in the next draw. I have had great success with this type of thinking managing to strike up to 3 slots in the 6/49 game and all 5 slots in the UK Thunderball five number section(although I have had problems with duplicate numbers)in the pairings and trips. I have found that even five different files normally give me good indications for the forthcoming draw or draws. This also applies to trips. What do you think, Patrick.
 

Springbok

Member
Hello Turtle 0747

I am using a cricketing term. "Opening batsmen" are the first two batsmen at the start of an innings. To take this idea into a lottery, the "opening batsmen" are the numbers that hit in the last draw. They will have a 0 in the skip chart. In other word we regard the last draw as the beginning of the innings. These "opening batsmen" could be single numbers, or pairs or trips. If we are dealing with pairs in the 7/49 game then they have a median of 2. 50% of the time they will hit within 3 draws(count is 0,1,2), OK. If we want to hit one of those pairs in the next 3 draws(and make some money), we need to know what they are going to do. If we study their skips we can often get an excellent indication(not always) of their behaviour in the next 3 draws. If in the previous skip cycles they have exceeded the median then we would expect a rebalance to occur, meaning they will not exceed the median in the present "innings" that is the next 3 draws. That is how we handle "opening batsmen".

Your "fencesitter" or draadsitter(Afrikaans) is a number, a pairing or trip that is sitting on the median at the moment. In other words it is balanced on the fence. Which way will it jump? Again we study the performance on the skip charts. If it has jumped over the median a few times in the past then we can probably assume that this time it will jump the other way ie it will hit below the median this time around.

So with these two techniques we use the idea of the median and rebalancing.This is mathematically sound. Ion Saliu emphasises the importance of this in lotteries. The concept was originally started by the 17th century French mathematician Abraham de Moivre who escaped from France and ended up in London.

Everything we do in lotteries revolves around various medians and rebalancing. This is how you will break the lottery. Not by wheeling or any other method. To put this is a picturesque way, people who do not use rebalancing are like Captain Vanderdecken of the Flying Dutchman who is cursed by the devil to sail around the Cape of Good Hope for eternity. These lottery players are sailing around the Cape of No Hope for eternity. That does not appeal to me at all.
 
Fla Lotto 6/53

Springbok

Thanks for the info. Starting to understand a little. You said your median is 2 for the 7/49 game. Does that stay the same? How do I figure the median for the 6/53 game? I am running Winnalotto. I see Last Drawn and Median. You talk about skip cycles and skip charts. Is that in Winnalotto?

Thanks
Turtle0747
 
Springbok:
Ya really got me thinking here and I'm gonna pass my idea on to Patrick. This idea might just bring home the bacon...

Ok... so, we are taking a look, Sangoma style, at numbers in pairs or trips that have have reached (or nearly reached) their limits in history and are ready to turn. Good! We know it works, but let's take an even closer look at the pairs and trips. Springbok, your posts about the user choosing the pairs in the alpha, beta, etc. style set me thinking of the pairs and trips that are due to hit BELOW the median. For instance let's say the triple set of 1-3-22 has a median of 4. Let's imagine that this set has had the past three hits on skips 8, 7, and 5. That means that probability says (By the way credit to Ion S. for this) that the next hit SHOULD be at or below the median. Now let's imagine that this set of 1-3-22 is at a skip of 3. Chances are VERY good that it can hit the next go round. What I'm trying to propose is a simple tab in Patrick's baby that will give the following analysis. What do you say Patrick? You have all the info already in the program. How about a weight given to pairs and trips that would look at several things:
1. The median of the trip or pair
2. If the past three or more times it has hit it was above the median (= higher weighting)
3. How close is it currently to the median (the closer then the higher the weight)

If you do some back checking, you will see that this undeniably works! Please consider it Patrick. I've tried using your program to do this, but it requires A LOT of scrolling.
By the way guys, I apologize if I'm a little confusing tonight. I just finished a 13 hour shift at the hospital. :sleeping:
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi Springbok,
I was in the library last Saturday and lo and behold I espy a book entitled VBA and Excel. I assume your programme is based on the use of VBA. What amazes me is how you cram all the facilities onto the IDE. It makes me wonder why I did not do the same using the VB 6 IDE. It would have speeded up the analysis,

I'm actually using Delphi, The spreadsheet part is a component called a StringGrid.

At this stage I'm refactoring a lot of code, there was a lot of similar calculations going on, so I'm centralising all this so there is just one place that would need changes for modifying columns.

I will be adding in a section where you can define your groups like alpha, etc then filter just those.

I'll add in a separate column, for jokerh1977's method, the 'Rebal Median' Column currently on the system, displays the percentage of times this scenario has taken place, but there is no filter to isolate these. I'll be adding this in.

Hopefully I will have this update available by tomorrow.

Regards
Patrick
 
jokerh1977

jokerh1977


Can you tell me where you get the skip of 3 for the trip? I can't find skip in Winnalotto. Do you pull that from somewhere else? Just getting the hang of Winnalotto for the Fla 6/53.
Now let's imagine that this set of 1-3-22 is at a skip of 3.

Thanks
Turtle0747
 
Turtle,
that triple was just an example. I was pulling numbers out of the air to illustrate a point.

Patrick,
Thank you my man!
 

Patrick123

Member
Okay Everyone,
The updated version is on the web.
The Old is still available in case the new one is giving problems.

The updated one should allow Keno as well (All 82000+ trip combinations :eek: )

Changes:
Gone are the Ball Analysis and Predictions screen.

All is done on the Drawing Analysis screen.
Filters can either be typed in on the fly or loaded and saved.

Filters:
These are space or comma separated values for the balls, e.g.

1,2
4,5

These top two will only show two lines in the pairs column. The option to tag only will indicate how many of these balls appear in that pairing ,trip.

1,2,3 will show:
1,2
1,3
2,3
for the pairings, all three lines for the balls, and only the one line for trips.

I suggest play around with it to get the feel.

I show the last 5 skips but if you want the complete skip history, there is an option.

I am still working on the draw probability and should be available soon.

If you want to evaluate the history of previous draws, you can load them in here, Each history is a ((28*49*1176*8474) by X) array so it will chew up your memory fairly fast. I'd suggest you don't load too many histories. If you want to evaluate 5 drawings from 20 draws ago, rather set the 'Skip first' on the import screen first, then load the historic info.

Jokerh1977, you columns of interest are the 'Below Median' and 'Rebal Median', sort on the 'Below Median', and evaluate the percentage times the scenario has happened for that ball/combination.

Regards
Patrick
 

Patrick123

Member
I've added in the Draw Probability option.
You select either normal or Draw Probability in the combo box. The sheer volume of extra columns made it easier to check each one individually. Select 'Draw Probability' then either pairs or trips (no effect on Balls). to get a weighting of each ball.

As an exercise:

  1. Import you drawings as normal.
  2. Go onto the 'Drawing Analysis' tab.
  3. 'Get History' of the past 2 or 3 drawings.
  4. Select 'Past 1' from the combo box that is showing 'Current'
  5. Click 'Balls' or pairs or trips.
  6. Drag the 'In Draw' Column to the first column position.
  7. Now you can select the different columns Sort (z->a) on them and see their positions in relation to where they were drawn ('In Draw')

Most of the percentages will show only when the ball/pair/trip fits the criteria for that column.

I hope this makes sense:confused:

Regards
Patrick
 
Thanks for your hard work Patrick!!! Still digging around the new version of yours. I'm a bit confused about the below median column (thanks for adding that in by the way). I sort the column z-a and wind up with only about 7 pairs marked. As I scroll down though I see many pairs with a current skip of zero or one (and other numbers) that would fit the criteria of being below or on the median. Am I doing something wrong?
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi jokerh1977,
I modified the filter a few minutes ago and uploaded the new one, I'm still checking through all, to ensure that the values only show if the criteria for that column passes.
Guys like you are helping to speed up the checking :)
I thought I'd upload it, but beware the internals are being modified as we spot these oversights (some companies call them features)

Regards
Patrick
 

Patrick123

Member
Remember, none of these methods above are going to give you more than one or two hits (about 3 at max).

The draw usually consists of a number or 2 that's been out of circulation for a while, a double hit or 2, a rebalance or 2 etc. By taking the top performers in each of these categories, a person can start building up the complete picture.

e.g. taking up to the draw yesterday( UK49s 21st Teatime).

if you took the top 2 numbers in each category,

N+x>=H would give you the 6.
Detailed -> 35
Rebal Median -> 18

Not perfect yet, but it's getting there :)

Regards
Patrick
 

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