Predict SA Lotto

[Patrick123]

For 17th May 2008

To separate SA predictions from the WinnaLotto thread, I'll start posting them here.
The number of rows that are left after the purging feature, will be the size of the wheel that gets created.

Balls Used
1,5,11,14,15,16,17,18,20,21,22,23,25,28,29,31,34,35,41,42,44,45,46,48,49

Purging Feature:

B1,B2,B3,B4,B5,B6
1,5,28,31,48,49
1,11,14,23,28,34
1,11,14,41,48,49
1,11,17,44,46,49
1,17,18,29,31,46
1,17,23,28,41,48
5,11,14,28,35,46
5,11,22,31,46,49
5,11,29,35,42,48
5,14,17,29,45,46
5,15,22,23,42,46
5,16,31,35,41,44
5,17,18,28,46,49
5,17,20,21,22,34
5,17,20,23,35,48
5,18,23,31,35,46
11,14,15,22,23,49
11,14,29,35,44,49
11,18,20,23,25,44
11,18,21,23,34,35
11,21,22,29,41,44
11,22,23,25,35,46
14,20,23,25,41,45
15,16,17,29,46,49
15,17,18,29,35,44
17,20,21,29,35,42
17,22,25,31,42,45
21,23,28,31,34,42

Wheel:

Draw Selection
Best Fit: 278978
Balls Used
1,5,11,14,15,16,17,18,20,21,22,23,25,28,29,31,34,35,41,42,44,45,46,48,49,
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Ball 1, Ball 2, Ball 3, Ball 4, Ball 5, Ball 6
5, 11, 15, 20, 42, 44
16, 23, 25, 28, 29, 49
1, 18, 22, 25, 28, 35
11, 15, 20, 22, 34, 42
11, 14, 22, 23, 35, 42
11, 15, 20, 28, 42, 49
1, 11, 14, 41, 42, 44
5, 15, 17, 20, 25, 44
5, 16, 22, 28, 41, 46
1, 5, 15, 25, 35, 45
16, 17, 18, 22, 23, 25
11, 16, 23, 28, 35, 44
1, 16, 28, 31, 34, 42
11, 16, 17, 31, 41, 46
5, 11, 14, 29, 35, 48
14, 15, 20, 22, 25, 29
14, 16, 28, 31, 34, 41
1, 11, 23, 28, 48, 49
15, 21, 22, 31, 34, 45
1, 20, 22, 23, 28, 44
15, 16, 18, 28, 34, 48
1, 15, 18, 20, 44, 49
14, 15, 20, 25, 29, 42
15, 16, 21, 25, 41, 48
16, 17, 21, 22, 42, 49
18, 23, 25, 31, 34, 48
16, 20, 22, 23, 31, 41
1, 17, 18, 34, 45, 49
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Random
Hit 3: 72.5 %
Hit 4: 5 %
Hit 5: 0 %
Hit 6: 0 %
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4 in Draw
Hit 3: 82 %
Hit 4: 3.5 %
Hit 5: 0 %
Hit 6: 0 %
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5 in Draw
Hit 3: 181 %
Hit 4: 16 %
Hit 5: 1 %
Hit 6: 0 %
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6 in Draw
Hit 3: 303.5 %
Hit 4: 30.5 %
Hit 5: 3 %
Hit 6: 0 %
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All 7 in Draw
Hit 3: 456 %
Hit 4: 97.5 %
Hit 5: 7.5 %
Hit 6: 0 %
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Regards
Patrick

 

[Springbok]

Hi Patrick

Good idea for a separate thread for the SA lotto. I will check out your pool late this evening or early tomorrow. I might be able to give a 12 number pool for the Saturday draw. I have some ideas to make the 12 number pool exceedingly highly optimised but I need to check it out for accuracy. I need to check out Bright6 purge function so I have a 100% confidence in it. This takes time as I hit it hard from all directions. I might use a 7 million draw file or multiple 7 million draw files to see whatsup. This is fairly new territory for me. I have the software both Saliu's and my own home grown. I am familiar with the 632 Purge functions but Bright6 is more powerful by a number of magnitudes. My own software even gives Bright6 another boost in cunning and devious ways.

 

[Patrick123]

Hi Springbok,
The hunt is just as good (not better though) than the capture, and I agree, the flash of the knickers is happening more & more often

At the mo, I'm going through the concept of layers to see what I can do there.

Regards
Patrick

 

[bloubul]

Hi Patrick123

What filters did you use to get these numbers, I'm trying to duplicate you but
ek sien my....................... and thats with out a mirror.
I'm also eagerly awaits Springbok's reply to my question on his Zero3 filter

BlouBul

 

[Patrick123]

Hi BlouBul,

Here's my workings:
Hist High 23 28 42 18 36 37 40
Cold 28 44 46
Mega Draad 20 23 29 44 46 49 22
Opening Batsmen HP 34 45 11 16 21 24
Opening Batsmen 13 14 17 26 9
Uboat 22 25 48
YoYo Up High Prob 23 47 49 12 35 43
FulHouse6 28 29 42
Springbok2 20 23 29 44 46 49
LLLLHd 16 6 33
LLLLHe 18 41 46
HLQQQ Draadsitter 21 32 44
SkipSum3 34 48 7 14
Digit End 5 15 25 35 45 17

Not all the figures are a direct value from WinnaLotto. Some of the figures come from the balls, other from pairs & others from trips.

I go one level higher, and look at the past 1, past 2, and past 3 draws (Load at least 5 historic draws first & do a filter evaluation). This way I get a feel how the filter's behaving and plenty of times it does not select the ball on the first draw but the ball then comes in on the next draw, example an opening Batsmen that becomes a Draadsitter. Usually these tend to back each other up, so any ball that missed as the opening batsmen in past 1, if it shows in Inbetweener or draadsitter, I usually highlight it.

It's not perfect yet, but I'm starting to understand Springbok when he says you must get 'intimate' with the balls That is the main reason why I don't do the UK Lottery, it's just too busy for me.

Regards
Patrick

 

[joesam]

Hi BlouBul/Patrick

I am back from Cape Town and am only working on the numbers now. I am not finished yet but have to go out for a meeting. I will post my numbers later this afternoon. I downloaded the new version of winnalotto. I am beginning to understand how some of the filters are working - so congrats to you Patrick. I found the same numbers that you did!

A small question - in the SA lotto over considerable number of draws one ball is normally repeated from the previous draw. If we can workout which one is the repeat then we will also move closer to the magical six numbers. Suggestions on how to determine which one it would be?

I will post my numbers this afternoon!

Cheers

 

[Springbok]

eSawubona Patrick

I took your pool of 26 and broke them up into a full wheel. There should have been 230,230 combinations. The computer refused to go beyond 177,100. Checking the combinations which were produced in lexicographic order from lowest to highest certainly looked correct to me. I purged them and thousands upon thousands of combinations were produced.This indicates that the pool is not rubbish. Then I purged them again, but this time I activated the internal filters as well which automatically purge according to Saliu's ideas which he does not reveal and I have no control over those settings. No combinations were let through. This would mean that the pool will not contain the 6 winning numbers tonight in the SA 6/49 game.

I have stored the full wheel of your pool and will give a report on it after tonight's draw.

 

[Patrick123]

I ni sogoma Springbok,

Thanks for your time and effort
I'm getting a better and better understanding to the applying of layers, I think the ultimate would be to be able to take all 13M combinations and run them through the filters and let Bright6 do the final polishing, but let us walk before we run. The main thing is to confirm that we're on the right track.

joesam, the filter that you're looking for is the Opening Batsmen.

Regards
Patrick

 

[Springbok]

Kunjani Patrick

Holy Cow! 13 million plus combinations. You are going to need a fast quad core processor with the programme threading to each core and memory for Africa. Later on today I hope to give a 12 or 18 number pool, preferably 12.

 

[Patrick123]

Holy Cow indeed but I must admit that day is starting to come closer. If we do the filtering in about 3 or 4 stages, and get a final pool of about 100k to 200k numbers, Bright6 can then take over.

Regards
Patrick

 

[Patrick123]

Hi Everyone,

Well this was my original selection:

My selection for the Saturday Draw is
14 16 18 20 21 22 23 28 29 34 42 44 46 48 49

It seems like an extremely unusual bunch of numbers, but then we've had some weird draws lately.
My personal feeling is that I should 'salt' these numbers with some that have a 5 or 7 digit ending.

This was the 'salted' selection:

Balls Used
1,5,11,14,15,16,17,18,20,21,22,23,25,28,29,31,34,3 5,41,42,44,45,46,48,49

Both the wheel and the purge performed dismally

The winning numbers were 49, 47, 14, 16, 1, 9 - 13.

I played 8 rows using the purge facility with my original selection only, and was lucky to get a row of 3.

Regards
Patrick

 

[Patrick123]

Performance of the Filters:

Hist High 23 28 42 18 36 37 40
Cold 28 44 46
Mega Draad 20 23 29 44 46 49 22
Opening Batsmen HP 34 45 11 16 21 24
Opening Batsmen 13 14 17 26 9
Uboat 22 25 48
YoYo Up High Prob 23 47 49 12 35 43
FulHouse6 28 29 42
Springbok2 20 23 29 44 46 49
LLLLHd 16 6 33
LLLLHe 18 41 46
HLQQQ Draadsitter 21 32 44
SkipSum3 34 48 7 14

Digit End 5 15 25 35 45 17 - These I added in manually.

Regards
Patrick

 

[Springbok]

Hello Patrick

I checked the results on the SABC site and ran a result check on the full wheel of your pool.
210 combinations hit 4 numbers
4009 combinations hit 3 numbers
No hits for the 5 or 6 numbers.

 

[Patrick123]

Hi Springbok,
I'm still trying to figure out where the 1 came from in my selection
I manually added the '5' digit ending series and the 17 for the same reason, maybe I did the same with the 1, but just cannot remember.

Regards
Patrick

 

[Springbok]

Hi Patrick again

Your pool was hitting 3 numbers at a rate of 1 in 44
Your pool was hitting 4 numbers at a rate of 1 in 843

I think the median tends to be 1 in 54 for 3 numbers and 1 in 1100 for 4 numbers.

I hope to have a pool ready for Wednesday in a day or so.

 

[Springbok]

Hi Patrick

The Purge function in Bright 6 seems to be pretty good especially with internal filters switched on as a guide to how well a pool is expected to do. Basically a random pick of 24 numbers will on average give 3 winning numbers and even 4 if you are lucky. Another thing to watch is the most frequent type of result is for one decade to be absent. Tonight was a 3 decade answer.

 

[Patrick123]

Hi Springbok,
I attribute 95% towards WinnaLotto as the filters become more refined and 5% to becoming more 'intimate' with the balls
I definitely need to spend more time studying the behaviour of the balls then I might have picked up the 9 & 13 that was lurking amongst the Opening Batsmen.

Regards
Patrick

 

[Patrick123]

At this stage Winnalotto is giving over 3 per 15 numbers and about 5 to 6 per 30. It is better than random, but still not good enough

 

[Springbok]

Hi Patrick again

I took your pool of numbers and entered all the winning numbers into that pool chucked out 4 numbers giving a pool of 24. I purged it with Bright6 inner filters enabled. It would let nothing through. Those inner filters are pretty brutal. The pool broke into134569 combinations as full wheel. I checked to see if the winning combo was there. It was. I decided to set the del6 filter in Layer1 to 500000 and switched off the inner filters This means the previous half million draws would be stripped out of the combinations from the pool. I then purged the pool and stopped the run at 1`800 combination mark in the output file. I then tested the results:-
5 combinations struck 5 numbers
130 combinations hit 4 numbers
724 combinations hit 3 numbers.

This is a phenomenal result from such a brief run.

 

[Patrick123]

Hi Springbok,
WinnaLotto has been kind to me these last 3 weeks even with the out of the ordinary results we've had, and as we developing more and more refined filters to work with it, it's only going to get better.

Lots of people say you have more chance of being hit by lightning, but at the moment we're watching it strike all around us

Regards
Patrick