Predict SA Lotto

Springbok

Member
Morning Patrick

Theoretically the filters should work no matter what the lottery. But wait a bit I will explain later how to test the filter outputs to find the most probable pair. I am writing the method up bit by bit carefully to make it understandable ie crystal clear. I was shell shocked yesterday evening when I failed to win my bet on the 49s at teatime. I was expecting my 22nd win in a row and it did not happen. When I recovered my equilibrium and looked at the coding in one of my files I found a tiny weeny error and that error would only apply to that specific pair which I bet on. Basically I should never have bet on it.
Another thing we must watch out for is too much mathematics in lotteries. It is science and an art in picking pairs. If it was a purely mathematical problem it would have been solved long time ago by smart arse mathematicians with access to Cray supercomputers at the MIT or California Institute of technology.They got some really smart people working there. Hopefully we are smarter. Aren't we?:finger:
 

joesam

Member
joesam said:
I have loaded 719 draws. I set the cut-off for the history at 16 draws.

I ran the following filters:

Filter: Opening Batsman HP : 33-34-48-4-11-15-27-45
Filter: Cold "23-24-46"
Filter: Mega Draad: 12-19-40-18-35-31
Filter: Springbok2: 42-45-9-11-41-16-30-49
Filter: Last four draws: 34-16-33-8-17-2
Filter: Very Hot numbers: 22
Filter: Fullhouse6: 2-11-26-8-9-16
Filter: Zero3: 9-14-16-34-47-49
Filter: Historical High: 23-42-37
"What remains is now to choose the numbers to play from the lot spewed out by the puter"[/QUOTE]

The winning numbers are: Main draw 2-11-22-26-28-38 BB 35 Lottoplus 2-5-8-16-42-49 BB 43

Better understanding of the filters and what the history cut-off is that we should be working with will get us there. As you can see the filters highlighted 4 numbers and bonus ball for the main draw and 5 numbers from lottoplus.

Cheers:lphant:
 

Patrick123

Member
Good Morning SpringBok, Joesam,

There's nothing like the unexpected happening to make you recheck your calculations and programs :)

Springbok said:
Another thing we must watch out for is too much mathematics in lotteries. It is science and an art in picking pairs.

I agree, you need to keep your eye on the game to get that 'feel' for the numbers. As clinical as we try and make it, you still need that 'gut' feel. Mmm, maybe I've been a little too ruthless and callous on our little spherical friends :)


joesam said:
I also think we need to understand the filters of winnalot much better before we launch into 'sungoma'. I will post some thoughts around this in another post.

Usually when you work with historical draws, you tend to bias the results slightly in favour of the balls drawn. When you work with a live lotto this is impossible and you get a true evaluation. There is no better way to understand the filters than doing a post-mortem on your selection.

The money that Sungoma will be playing is small amounts at a time and I see it as a challenge and entertainment(with the hope of hitting the big prizes of course :) ), but if anyone is going to rely on it for a continued source of serious money, I'd strongly suggest against it. It is still a 'random' selection of numbers that nobody (as Springbok said), even with Crays can accurately predict. We can make educated selections, but if we wait until we've perfected this art, very likely we'll wait indefinitely before we make a bet then.

Regards
Patrick
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Patrick,Bloubul Joesam

According to calculations on some of my files the following numbers are unlikely to come up this Wednesday's SA draw. It is based on the 6/49 game and the bonus ball is ignored.
8,9,11,12,15,19,20,26,34,38,39,41,46

I have not tested the technque I am using so it is based on a theoretical idea which should work in theory.
 

Springbok

Member
Hi SA lotto players

These numbers are also not expected to turn up. I searched 19 layers using the stat reporting from 632 program. The Pot filters indicated that certain layers would turn.

1,4,5,7,16,21,28.30.33.36.42.44.49

Also expect one number to turn up from each ofthe following pairs
9,17
6,27

So we are attempting to eliminate 26 numbers. I very much doubt this will be possible but will await for feedback Wednesday evening. It all depends on the Pot filters turning downwards as indicated in the stats reporting.
 

joesam

Member
Springbok said:
These numbers are also not expected to turn up. I searched 19 layers using the stat reporting from 632 program. The Pot filters indicated that certain layers would turn.

1,4,5,7,16,21,28.30.33.36.42.44.49

Also expect one number to turn up from each ofthe following pairs
9,17
6,27

So we are attempting to eliminate 26 numbers. I very much doubt this will be possible but will await for feedback Wednesday evening. It all depends on the Pot filters turning downwards as indicated in the stats reporting.

The following numbers seems to be in the frame for Wednesday night 28 May 2008:

2-3-4-7-10-12-14-16-17-21-22-23-24-25-27-28-29-31-33-35-37-42-44-48

If we exclude the numbers above from Springbok then it looks like this:

2-3-10-12-14-17-22-23-24-25-27-29-31-35-35-48

We will see on Wednesday night!

Cheers

JoeSam
 
Springbok


originated from SpringBok
Another thing we must watch out for is too much mathematics in lotteries. It is science and an art in picking pairs. If it was a purely mathematical problem it would have been solved long time ago by smart arse mathematicians with access to Cray supercomputers at the MIT or California Institute of technology.They got some really smart people working there. Hopefully we are smarter. Aren't we?

Amen Brother :agree: I getting a better feel for patterns using math theory and
and intuition. There are theorictical math boundries that the numbers must
obey, but within those boundries lies the patterns for us to detect. It's an
art or gift to read these changes and predict correctly the future outcomes.
I envy those who can do this without any effort. The math theory must be
there as a foundation before any reasonable pattern forcasting will succeed.

-BP
 

bloubul

Member
Hi All

Well after a schlep, I'm back on line, well the "Sungoma Syndicate's" hour draws near, Saterday 31 May 2008 is "D" day. Springbok there is a mail for you.

BlouBul :cool:
 

bloubul

Member
Hi All

Well after a schlep, I'm back on line, well the "Sungoma Syndicate's" hour draws near, Saterday 31 May 2008 is "D" day. Springbok there is a mail for you.

BlouBul :cool:
 

Patrick123

Member
Hi Everyone,
As the 'Sungoma Syndicate' starts only on Saturday, after tonight's draw, I'll work out my numbers and send it to bloubul, tomorrow afternoon. I've got about 3 or 4 different methods that I'm evaluating and will see which will give the best results. I'm experimenting like crazy & hopefully the 10M JP carries over until Saturday when we can collect it :) ( Otherwise I better win it tonight :) :) )

Regards
Patrick
 

Springbok

Member
Hi SA lotto players

Just checked the SA results for Wednesday. I was surprised that out of the 26 numbers I eliminated only one hit(no 30) actually hit. I actually expected 3 hits in the forbidden list because of the rule of random expectations. So the result was reasonable and gave random expectations a thrashing but zero hits should be expected so the forbidden numbers given were not satisfactory because of the wretched No 30. The first group I eliminated were done by a method inspired by Moses and I applied it to certain files and they were 100% accurate in predicting 13 numbers that would not come up. That was very pleasing because it was a step into the unknown.Despite the No 30 pitching up, slowly but surely the jackpot comes nearer. We have had a good glance at her nickers:devil:
 

joesam

Member
Hi

Hi guys, Springbok eliminated two numbers 1-30 in his list. Again I got three numbers plus the bonus - 25-35-29-48. Patrick the 10m was paid out to the five plus bonus people.
Cheers

JoeSam
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Joesam

Ooops, I missed out the 1. After a night's sleep I checked my records. A layer in one of my D6 files did not turn as expected and carried on upwards taking in the 1 and 30..
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Joesam

I am increasing the number of D6 files to 10 to give me 31 layers for the Pot filter. This increases the opportunity to increase accuracy with these filters. Maybe knocking out 26 numbers is a bridge too far but thinking of the SAS motto "Who Dares Wins", I think the next target should between 26-30 numbers to eliminate. The ideal would be to have hundreds of these files to really zero in on the high probability reversals. Out of the 6 layers I used one layer did not reverse taking 1 and 30 with it.
 

bloubul

Member
Hi Springbok

That would be very neat if you get it right. So in retrospect it should leave us with 19 numbers, BUT if joesam can isolate the filter(s) that gave him 3B numbers for several times now, I'm to scared to think what we will do. I'm not even going to attemped to select numbers, as I have stated before I cannot get the same numbers. But just perhaps I have a trick or six up my sleeves to put the remaining numbers in the right places to WIN.

BlouBul :cool:
 

Springbok

Member
Hello Bloubul

If you have a trick or two up your sleeve to place the right numbers then you will be the Einstein of the lottery world::thumb: Even with 19 numbers you still have thousands upon thousands of combinations. It is still a needle in a haystack as big as Cape Province. Hold fire for a moment until I get Patrick to put some code in to search for pairs. At the moment this technique I am using is very cool. It makes draadsitters, inbetweeners etc distinctly neanderthal. You can still use them but in a different way.
 

bloubul

Member
Hi Springbok

No I don't want to be the "Einstein Of Lottery", all I want is to be a team player", at this stage it is only a theory, but I want to try it with our Sungoma Sindycate. As I said before, YOU are one of my CORE advisors. So I take my lead from you, but I have to consider Patrick123 and joesam as well.
So lets use the SA lotto as a "TRAINING" ground for future adventures??????

BlouBul :cool:
 

joesam

Member
Hi Springbok

Springbok said:
I am increasing the number of D6 files to 10 to give me 31 layers for the Pot filter. This increases the opportunity to increase accuracy with these filters. Maybe knocking out 26 numbers is a bridge too far but thinking of the SAS motto "Who Dares Wins", I think the next target should between 26-30 numbers to eliminate. The ideal would be to have hundreds of these files to really zero in on the high probability reversals. Out of the 6 layers I used one layer did not reverse taking 1 and 30 with it.

I note the issue of the layers. The filters that seems to be most powerful in terms of predicting the pairs more accurately is very hot, opening batsman (plus HP) and the draad (including the Mega). For the last three draws they have been consistent in predicting the right number pairs - the last two draws the very hot filter predicted number 22 on Saturday and on Wednesday numbers 48 and 25. The next set set of number that this filter is projecting are (8:33), So I think we need to keep our eyes open for the next two draws for these two numbers to appear. The opening batsman on Saturday predicted 11 and low and behold the pairing was actually (15:11), so 11 appeared (although initially I thought it was a mistake).

I think if we can isolate between 3 and four numbers per draw, we may want to use wheeling to get the other numbers for the big one. I know that you don't like the idea of wheeeling but in 6/49 if you are more or less sure about 3/4 one will be able to win some big ones this way!
 

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