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[roger.www]

okay roger thanks for the advise.

is it also good to say pick 6 numbers from 1-70 and keep playing those numbers all the time. example if one only likes the number 9 and only plays (9-19-29-39-49-59-69) and wheels those combination they may win.
i notice banco played 9-19-29-39-49 tonight
could work if one is patient right? what do u think?
or is is better to mix the numbers say 9,s with 3,s?


cynth

Oh yes, that's a good strategy. If you look at OLG
site someone recently won $250,000
Jan 20 draw.
If you check that draw there were 6 numbers ending with digit 7
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20-Jan-2008
Sun

03 05 10 12 17
20 26 27 29 33 34 37 39 42 47 48 57 58 61 67

 

[cynth63]

okay :0

Oh yes, that's a good strategy. If you look at OLG
site someone recently won $250,000
Jan 20 draw.
If you check that draw there were 6 numbers ending with digit 7
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20-Jan-2008
Sun

03 05 10 12 17
20 26 27 29 33 34 37 39 42 47 48 57 58 61 67

okay thanks Roger.
your advise is as good as gold to me

i am going to play aggressively/ stuborn it will have to come out eventually lol
cynth

 

[IDontKnow]

I went to the olg site, and went to the area where it says "have your numbers every won". I tried to find some good pairs, then i'am going to add more numbers together all the way up to six numbers. To find the best six combo to play everyday. It's kind of difficult. When I put in six numbers most of the time only 5 numbers would come up. Also, when I tried a 5 number combo, most of the time 4 numbers would come up. The more numbers you have, the more difficult it is. Which makes sense. If we all help each other find some great combos, I think that would be great! Here are some good pairs that I have found to come up together, or would come up after one of the numbers came up fairly often.
41,43 / 41,44 / 43,44 / 27,29 / 26,29 / 51,52 / 10,11 / 07,10 / 08,10 / 08,11
I know that there are probably more but that's all I got so far. Let's work together and find some great combos. I too, think Rogers advice is as good as gold! Thanks.

 

[roger.www]

I went to the olg site, and went to the area where it says "have your numbers every won". I tried to find some good pairs, then i'am going to add more numbers together all the way up to six numbers. To find the best six combo to play everyday. It's kind of difficult. When I put in six numbers most of the time only 5 numbers would come up. Also, when I tried a 5 number combo, most of the time 4 numbers would come up. The more numbers you have, the more difficult it is. Which makes sense. If we all help each other find some great combos, I think that would be great! Here are some good pairs that I have found to come up together, or would come up after one of the numbers came up fairly often.
41,43 / 41,44 / 43,44 / 27,29 / 26,29 / 51,52 / 10,11 / 07,10 / 08,10 / 08,11
I know that there are probably more but that's all I got so far. Let's work together and find some great combos. I too, think Rogers advice is as good as gold! Thanks.

if you
go to lottostrategies.com, you should able to
crank out the top winning pairs at their site.

 

[cynth63]

i dont believe it

lotto quebec probably looking at this site. they hardly played any 7,s tonight
actually they played 9,s again.

so i think 7,s will come up soon

any one else thinks so?

i was a member at lotostrategies for a while then i stopped because i found that even if i played the top winning numbers etc i wasnt winning any thing so i got fed up and unsubscribed.

any one go to or read gail howard prediction on keno?

cynth

 

[roger.www]

lotto quebec probably looking at this site. they hardly played any 7,s tonight
actually they played 9,s again.

so i think 7,s will come up soon


cynth

same here, they were supposed to play 8, they played 9
I know for sure many people play Keno this way, perhaps
the Lottery Corp switches the series when there are
too many winning combos. In ONT, the overdue series can miss for days
and days and days so even if you are wagering a small amount you can lose quite a bit of money.
By comparison banco seems to play the overdue much sooner than ONTDKENO.

 

[xcentric]

Roger, how many series of numbers do you usually use with blitzed program to mix and match?

for me, if i want 6/6 7/7 i have about 14-15 numbers to mix around with, but it still is quite difficult and costly to do so, especially if the KC drags/delays your numbers for days....

just trying to seek more cost effective ways. if i narrow the numbers down to 10 or so, im not too confident all would hit

ive also looked and researched some of payday & lottostratgies to assist me

 

[roger.www]

Roger, how many series of numbers do you usually use with blitzed program to mix and match?

for me, if i want 6/6 7/7 i have about 14-15 numbers to mix around with, but it still is quite difficult and costly to do so, especially if the KC drags/delays your numbers for days....

just trying to seek more cost effective ways. if i narrow the numbers down to 10 or so, im not too confident all would hit

ive also looked and researched some of payday & lottostratgies to assist me

I usually pick 12 at time then do 10 or so combos
I then repeat the process with another set of numbers
but you are quite right, it can be expensive.
If you have 14 it may take 40 combos to get a hit, assuming
you have 9 or 10/14.
If you have 10/14 and you do 20- 40 combos there is a high
probability you will get 7/7.

My suggestion, try some dummy combos
with 8 or 9 /12, see how many combos
on average get the job done.

 

[roger.www]

lotto quebec probably looking at this site. they hardly played any 7,s tonight
actually they played 9,s again.

so i think 7,s will come up soon

any one else thinks so?

i was a member at lotostrategies for a while then i stopped because i found that even if i played the top winning numbers etc i wasnt winning any thing so i got fed up and unsubscribed.

any one go to or read gail howard prediction on keno?

cynth

There are skipping most prime numbers as well:

The first thirty prime numbers are:

2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67
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008-03-12

04 06 19 20 21 22 32 38 39 40
42 45 52 54 60 63 66 67 69 70

 

[xcentric]

I usually pick 12 at time then do 10 or so combos
I then repeat the process with another set of numbers
but you are quite right, it can be expensive.
If you have 14 it may take 40 combos to get a hit, assuming
you have 9 or 10/14.
If you have 10/14 and you do 20- 40 combos there is a high
probability you will get 7/7.

My suggestion, try some dummy combos
with 8 or 9 /12, see how many combos
on average get the job done.

i guess i like to put my eggs all in one basket focusing only on one set, than to have few set of 12-14 numbers and do mix/match with less combos. but unforunately my picks tonight were quite medicore, good thing i only played...... on paper, lol.

i also use this site(u might be aware of) to see how good my odds are if i want certain picks/combo out of set amount of numbers

http://www.alllotto.com/lottery_odds_calculator.php

 

[roger.www]

They are skipping most prime numbers as well:

The first 19 prime numbers are:

2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67
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Date
2008-03-13



02 03 05 09 13 17 21 24 28 29
37 39 40 42 53 58 61 64 66 68

 

[roger.www]

i guess i like to put my eggs all in one basket focusing only on one set, than to have few set of 12-14 numbers and do mix/match with less combos. but unforunately my picks tonight were quite medicore, good thing i only played...... on paper, lol.

i also use this site(u might be aware of) to see how good my odds are if i want certain picks/combo out of set amount of numbers

http://www.alllotto.com/lottery_odds_calculator.php

I think the odds refer to eg: those who are using quick picks--
if you are using some kind of reduced system your odds are not as bad as
the calculations might suggest. So for instance the odds of getting 7/7 are
1:15, 000 but I was able to hit 7/7 3 times within a week back in Feb and I definitely
did not wager $15,000. My point being not to be intimated by the odds of winning but
to focus instead on good methodology.

 

[IDontKnow]

Roger
How long have you been playing Keno? I' am just curious. Also, how long did it take you until you started doing well (make a profit)? Also how did you learn to pick the numbers? I've been playing a long time, and have not had similar results to yours. I look at the different variables: odds, even, lows, high, hot, cold, overdue, pairs that seem to come together, and wheeling systems. I think if I had a set of 12 numbers, about 4 will come in, and I don't think thats good. Well, I hope you and everyone else is doing well, and making a profit. Good luck everyone.

 

[xcentric]

I think the odds refer to eg: those who are using quick picks--
if you are using some kind of reduced system your odds are not as bad as
the calculations might suggest. So for instance the odds of getting 7/7 are
1:15, 000 but I was able to hit 7/7 3 times within a week back in Feb and I definitely
did not wager $15,000. My point being not to be intimated by the odds of winning but
to focus instead on good methodology.

i agree. just like 649 or ont49 is 1 in 14mill almost, but with elite tactics or some anaylizing, you severely decline the odds with much higher chance to win, 4 5/6 like your winnings previously.

olg lists the odds 8/8 1 in 74000, 6/6 1 in 3300 etc... (keno)

you can actually apply the lotto calculator to our own picks
out of 12numbers, to nail 7/7, assuming theres 7 out of 12 right, sometimes u might have 8 or 9 but u only want to know 7/7(which doesnt work with the calculator,) the odds show 792ish, or say i have 14, and need 7/7 to use all combos, i would need 3000something lines, which is lot better than 1 in 15000(of random play).

just thought it was interesting to know how good or bad our odds are.

u cant calculator keno odds like OLG though, cause it assumes u want 7/7 say out of 20, which would be 77000 or so(lot worse than 15000)

but for keno youre getting 7/20 in a 70number generator

 

[xcentric]

anyways, im trying really hard (on paper for now) to nail consistent 6/6 7/7, but always off bit, and hopefully make a part time income with this. lol

but nowhere close to Rogers elite skills yet

 

[roger.www]

anyways, im trying really hard (on paper for now) to nail consistent 6/6 7/7, but always off bit, and hopefully make a part time income with this. lol

but nowhere close to Rogers elite skills yet

Keno can be very frustrating...for example I was not in the mood to spend too much tonight, having lost the last few days. Big mistake, as in the pile of tickets from 12 Mar there was one 7/7 combo had I replayed those tickets today !! (16-18-21-22-43-44-45)
So it seems once again that replay (expensive at it is) is a very good strategy.

 

[roger.www]

Roger
How long have you been playing Keno? I' am just curious. Also, how long did it take you until you started doing well (make a profit)? Also how did you learn to pick the numbers? I've been playing a long time, and have not had similar results to yours. I look at the different variables: odds, even, lows, high, hot, cold, overdue, pairs that seem to come together, and wheeling systems. I think if I had a set of 12 numbers, about 4 will come in, and I don't think thats good. Well, I hope you and everyone else is doing well, and making a profit. Good luck everyone.

nearly 2 years. As I stated before a good budget, and patience
is needed to win. Now, about the parameters you mentioned, just focus on a few parameters per draw. Try to a develop a sense which scenario seems most probable.
Once in a while you will guess right.
Think of different ways to mix your numbers.

For example for four number game:

-picks your best 4 pairs

eg:

1: 2-13
2-67-68
3. 15-28
4-6-10

and then you mix as follows
1-2 :2-13-67-68
1-3 :2-13-15-28
1-4 :2-6-10-13
2-3 : 15-28-67-68
2-4 : 6-10-15-28
3-4 : 6-10-67-68

Cost=$6.00

If any 2 of your pairs are correct, you hit jackpot.

Of course you can do something similiar for 6 number game,
matter of fact back in Dec I got 6/6 by mixing my numbers this way.
Instead of pairs, you are selecting triples.

 

[xcentric]

Roger, just wondering how many different scenarios you believe keno uses, since they usually kind of repeat itself and reuse the same ones after a bit

lately, weve seen some ajacent numbers.
they often might do more odd than even distributions
left side 1-35 - right 36-70 usually i notice is 50/50 more or less
sometimes consecutive numbers
out of 20 prime numbers 1-70, about 7-9 were played few times
fibonacci series, dont think ive seen much of that
the one uve mentioned numerous times, numbers ending with certain patterns
12 22 32 42, or 33 43 53 63, etc......

anything else to look out for?
do you usually use pairs or triplets to mix and match, like the 4number game example you posted above?

ive tried that, but i guess my number picks werent that great.
lately, ive used lottostraties and the payday method, and some of my own amateur ways. lol, ive been studying and readin about this for while, but just cant seem to get it right

any other tips to improve, and what to really look for?

thanks, cheers.

 

[roger.www]

Roger, just wondering how many different scenarios you believe keno uses, since they usually kind of repeat itself and reuse the same ones after a bit

lately, weve seen some ajacent numbers.
they often might do more odd than even distributions
left side 1-35 - right 36-70 usually i notice is 50/50 more or less
sometimes consecutive numbers
out of 20 prime numbers 1-70, about 7-9 were played few times
fibonacci series, dont think ive seen much of that
the one uve mentioned numerous times, numbers ending with certain patterns
12 22 32 42, or 33 43 53 63, etc......

anything else to look out for?
do you usually use pairs or triplets to mix and match, like the 4number game example you posted above?

ive tried that, but i guess my number picks werent that great.
lately, ive used lottostraties and the payday method, and some of my own amateur ways. lol, ive been studying and readin about this for while, but just cant seem to get it right

any other tips to improve, and what to really look for?

thanks, cheers.

"one uve mentioned numerous times, numbers ending with certain patterns
12 22 32 42, or 33 43 53 63, etc......"

this is a useful parameter, incidentally for ONT 49, 649 etc as well
the problem is you have to keep track of the stats eg..numbers ending in 0
the last 5 - 7 draws.etc Software like Gail Goward will do this for you.

When I look at my winning 7 number combos I find the following:
-almost all of them contained at least one adjacent pair or triplet
- most contained 2 numbers ending in same digit (eg 18-28....)
-on the PayDay do a count of hits also, according to grid, watch those white spaces that persist
for 2 -3 consecutive draws.

unfortunately, it's a lot of work but particularly if you are looking to get
6 numbers +, this is almost mandatory.

Fibonacci ? for some reason I don't find them useful for keno. Prime numbers used to
get up to 10 hits some days but I do believe Keno Commissioner may have changed all that. Lately they have been unreliable. You might want to review
Triangular series as well
1-3-6-10-15-28-36-45-55-66.

Repeaters ? These are tough but as a general rule perhaps you should
skip numbers that have hit 3 consecutive draws.

 

[cynth63]

lots of info

"one uve mentioned numerous times, numbers ending with certain patterns
12 22 32 42, or 33 43 53 63, etc......"

this is a useful parameter, incidentally for ONT 49, 649 etc as well
the problem is you have to keep track of the stats eg..numbers ending in 0
the last 5 - 7 draws.etc Software like Gail Goward will do this for you.

When I look at my winning 7 number combos I find the following:
-almost all of them contained at least one adjacent pair or triplet
- most contained 2 numbers ending in same digit (eg 18-28....)
-on the PayDay do a count of hits also, according to grid, watch those white spaces that persist
for 2 -3 consecutive draws.

unfortunately, it's a lot of work but particularly if you are looking to get
6 numbers +, this is almost mandatory.

Fibonacci ? for some reason I don't find them useful for keno. Prime numbers used to
get up to 10 hits some days but I do believe Keno Commissioner may have changed all that. Lately they have been unreliable. You might want to review
Triangular series as well
1-3-6-10-15-28-36-45-55-66.

Repeaters ? These are tough but as a general rule perhaps you should
skip numbers that have hit 3 consecutive draws.

hi roger.
would all this also apply to Banco(quebec).

did you notice all week banco has basically skipped 7's, 9's (maybe 2-3 hits)

what do you suggest forget the 7's?

cynth