Payback time for 0ntari0 Keno Commissioner -$6000 refund

xcentric

Member
roger.www said:
sorry... but you and trigger1 should honestly consider sticking to quick picks..
http://www.olg.ca/lotteries/games/howtoplay.do?game=payday
I said payday lottery form - not forum. payday is a Ontario lottery.

Roger, Ive been trying to anayzlise payday. i got 3/4 once. & 2/4s few times.
the good thing is, since theres soo many numbers, usually u can eliminate ones that were played recently (unlike keno with 20 of 70) and i try and use lottostrategies to get hints, and im trying to resume that with keno as well.

can u elaborate on how payday line 4(u mean the 4th number is sometimes used on keno?) and line 11?(11draws ago, the same numbers occur on keno?)

????

cheers.
 

roger.www

Member
xcentric said:
Roger, Ive been trying to anayzlise payday. i got 3/4 once. & 2/4s few times.
the good thing is, since theres soo many numbers, usually u can eliminate ones that were played recently (unlike keno with 20 of 70) and i try and use lottostrategies to get hints, and im trying to resume that with keno as well.

can u elaborate on how payday line 4(u mean the 4th number is sometimes used on keno?) and line 11?(11draws ago, the same numbers occur on keno?)

????

cheers.
You need to complete the Payday form and insert numbers ( KENO)
for the last 3 - 4 draws on the payday form.
You will see that it presents another way of at looking
at the keno numbers --- possibly a different way for you to pick
your combos.
 

roger.www

Member
blitzed said:
hiya roger,

coverin play to fight another day!

that'll work!
blitzed:thumb:
Good luck blitzed..Did you take a shot at the Keno ?..
Tonight: 6/7, ball 55 missed, combos done via
you website as usual. Altogether $95.00 refunded -
enough to play another game Sunday
 

IDontKnow

Member
Roger, I' am a new member to the forums. I have been reading them though, for a few months. I wanted to say you are really great at picking those numbers for Keno. I wish I could do that. I also play Ontario Keno. I try to do the methods you tell other people to do, but still not going great. Could you do a step by step (details) of what you do for numbers. Thanks. Again keep up the great work.
 

roger.www

Member
IDontKnow said:
Roger, I' am a new member to the forums. I have been reading them though, for a few months. I wanted to say you are really great at picking those numbers for Keno. I wish I could do that. I also play Ontario Keno. I try to do the methods you tell other people to do, but still not going great. Could you do a step by step (details) of what you do for numbers. Thanks. Again keep up the great work.
The problem with Keno is it's so complex, there are so many different parameters that can come into play on a particular day. The only thing I would suggest is try one or two different approaches at a time.
You will need a budget ( start with 4 or 5 numbers of even 3 @$2 to raise some play money) because no matter how good your number
picking skills, you will not likely get a hit with a few combos.
You will know your number picking skills
are getting better when you start missing one number now and again. Keep those those tickets and replay them. Discard the ones that get only a few numbers or none because those combos are likely poorly constructed.

When we pick our own lottery numbers we have a tendency
to be a few draws ahead of the Lotto Commission's ball machine.
Hence, replay is a good strategy for any lottery.

btw tonight I had 6/7 and 7/8
in total $300.00 refunded by the KC
 

IDontKnow

Member
Roger
So close, just one number off. Nice refund though! Keep it up.
Also, thanks for the reply. What would you think of just playing odds, or evens, lows or highs? This way you only have half the numbers to deal with. Is it a good strategy, or not.
e.g. If ten odd numbers came up yesterday, just use the other odd numbers left, to choose numbers for today. I appreciate your response, and advice. Thanks.
 

roger.www

Member
IDontKnow said:
Roger

e.g. If ten odd numbers came up yesterday, just use the other odd numbers left, to choose numbers for today. I appreciate your response, and advice. Thanks.
no..not a good dea, mix odd and even

most days ~ 10 odd/10 even, ~ 10 high/10 low
so you want a good mixture.
 

dhs

Member
Hey Roger,

Interesting layout using the the Payday sheet.
Time - how much time per day are you spending( no pun intended) on your analysis?

DHS
 

IDontKnow

Member
Roger
The winning numbers for Keno on 3/01/08 was 1,2,6,8,9,10,21,23,26,29,30,33,34,42,45,50,51,55,57,62
for the 2/29/08 it was 1,9,17,19,20,26,28,34,39,44,45,52,53,56,57,58,64,65,69,70
Hot numbers for Keno are: 21,53,54,63,65,23
Cold numbers for Keno are: 34,04,55,48,16,14
Overdue numbers for Keno are: 24,40,47,16,27,59
So by looking at these numbers, how would you go about picking your numbers for the next day 3/02/08? Also do you think the teens, and sixties will come in? What numbers would you play? I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions. I just want to learn how to pick numbers like you. If you want me to stop asking these questions just say so, and i'll stop. Thanks.
 

blitzed

Member
IDontKnow said:
Roger
The winning numbers for Keno on 3/01/08 was 1,2,6,8,9,10,21,23,26,29,30,33,34,42,45,50,51,55,57,62
for the 2/29/08 it was 1,9,17,19,20,26,28,34,39,44,45,52,53,56,57,58,64,65,69,70
Hot numbers for Keno are: 21,53,54,63,65,23
Cold numbers for Keno are: 34,04,55,48,16,14
Overdue numbers for Keno are: 24,40,47,16,27,59
So by looking at these numbers, how would you go about picking your numbers for the next day 3/02/08? Also do you think the teens, and sixties will come in? What numbers would you play? I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions. I just want to learn how to pick numbers like you. If you want me to stop asking these questions just say so, and i'll stop. Thanks.

I saw a post in which Roger suggested to watch for numbers moving together.

skimming through the 2 draws, I see they have 1 9 26 34 45 57 in common.

perhaps some numbers in that set can be traced back further.

later,
blitzed:thumb:
 

LottoGator

Member
Abs Luv It!

roger.www said:
You need to complete the Payday form and insert numbers ( KENO)
for the last 3 - 4 draws on the payday form.
You will see that it presents another way of at looking
at the keno numbers --- possibly a different way for you to pick
your combos.

Very cool idea with the PAYDAY! I'm going to try that! It is funny how you end up fixed on certain numbers and it is good to have a different way of looking at them. Sometimes I actually get p'd that certain numbers that I didn't play had the audacity to play a 4th time in a row...of all the nerve.

I've played with combos of 15 and then each line in combos of 7.
Lately I've reduced my spending on lotteries in general. Keno is my favorite, I have used Blitzed tool and luv it... Thank you Blitzed. There are so many combinations in wheeling that getting numbers randomly out of your pool is really handy...awesomely handy tool. I remember seeing the request for a tool like that and thought i should write one but never found the time.

I've been hand-picking pools using LottoPro stats. Sometimes it goes well..have been getting secondary prizes on 8 and even 10...with some luck will hit the jp. Sometimes I miss totally. I've been playing 10 because the secondary prize is not too shabby and I frequently hit 7, I try to stick to $10 but sometimes end up at $20. Have got 8/10 once in Feb and 7/10 a handful of times. I also find that after I fill out a sheet and have the print out in my hand - I actually go back and by hand randomly combine my 4 lines into a new line..sometimes it will be the low numbers from one ticket with the high of another or all the adjacent numbers...stuff like that.

With category 8 I like to choose a decade that I think is due to play at least 4 numbers..and then combine them on 4 tickets with 4 numbers from 2 other decades or combine them with numbers I think will repeat.
Tonite I'm actualy going for those cold numbers, I think they will play tonite or if not tonite tomorrow...there are 6 numbers tonite that haven't played for 10+ draws... not sure yet what I will do with them but have to decide fairly quickly. I may put them in combos of 3 to get refund and then take the combos of 3 and add some odd frequent numbers in various combos for cat 7 or 8.

Fyi those cold numbers I mentioned are 47,16,27,68,4,63

Too verbose as usual!
LottoGator :) good luck!
 

roger.www

Member
IDontKnow said:
Roger
The winning numbers for Keno on 3/01/08 was 1,2,6,8,9,10,21,23,26,29,30,33,34,42,45,50,51,55,57,62
for the 2/29/08 it was 1,9,17,19,20,26,28,34,39,44,45,52,53,56,57,58,64,65,69,70
Hot numbers for Keno are: 21,53,54,63,65,23
Cold numbers for Keno are: 34,04,55,48,16,14
Overdue numbers for Keno are: 24,40,47,16,27,59
So by looking at these numbers, how would you go about picking your numbers for the next day 3/02/08? Also do you think the teens, and sixties will come in? What numbers would you play? I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions. I just want to learn how to pick numbers like you. If you want me to stop asking these questions just say so, and i'll stop. Thanks.
Yes,,as blitzed pointed out look for numbers and adjacent pairs that have a tendency to move together during the last few draws...For example
look at the draws for 5 & 6 March respectively, you will see several numbers pairs repeating.

6-Mar-2008


Thu


02 06 09 12 14
17 19 20 21 24 34 41 46 49 52 53 58 62 64 70


2542906


05-Mar-2008


Wed


03 07 12 20 21
23 24 26 29 33 35 38 42 43 46 52 53 62 64 65


1315142
 

roger.www

Member
LottoGator said:
Very cool idea with the PAYDAY! I'm going to try that! It is funny how you end up fixed on certain numbers and it is good to have a different way of looking at them. Sometimes I actually get p'd that certain numbers that I didn't play had the audacity to play a 4th time in a row...of all the nerve.

I've played with combos of 15 and then each line in combos of 7.
Lately I've reduced my spending on lotteries in general. Keno is my favorite, I have used Blitzed tool and luv it... Thank you Blitzed. There are so many combinations in wheeling that getting numbers randomly out of your pool is really handy...awesomely handy tool. I remember seeing the request for a tool like that and thought i should write one but never found the time.

I've been hand-picking pools using LottoPro stats. Sometimes it goes well..have been getting secondary prizes on 8 and even 10...with some luck will hit the jp. Sometimes I miss totally. I've been playing 10 because the secondary prize is not too shabby and I frequently hit 7, I try to stick to $10 but sometimes end up at $20. Have got 8/10 once in Feb and 7/10 a handful of times. I also find that after I fill out a sheet and have the print out in my hand - I actually go back and by hand randomly combine my 4 lines into a new line..sometimes it will be the low numbers from one ticket with the high of another or all the adjacent numbers...stuff like that.

With category 8 I like to choose a decade that I think is due to play at least 4 numbers..and then combine them on 4 tickets with 4 numbers from 2 other decades or combine them with numbers I think will repeat.
Tonite I'm actualy going for those cold numbers, I think they will play tonite or if not tonite tomorrow...there are 6 numbers tonite that haven't played for 10+ draws... not sure yet what I will do with them but have to decide fairly quickly. I may put them in combos of 3 to get refund and then take the combos of 3 and add some odd frequent numbers in various combos for cat 7 or 8.

Fyi those cold numbers I mentioned are 47,16,27,68,4,63

Too verbose as usual!
LottoGator :) good luck!
yes, the PayDay form is actually quite useful for Keno.
When you have completed the form (4/5 draws)
try to do some further analysis with it eg:
Make a list of the last 2 numbers to play in each line (4 draws+) , and the last number to play within the last 3 draws.

Do this for all the lines on the form 1-11
You may be surprised if you check those stats against the numbers drawn a few days down the road...lol
So much for Ont Keno Commissioner's ingenuity. He thinks he is so smart
people don't know he manages the draws..

Yes, according to GH 's software ( usually reliable)
the cold numbers were due tonight, The KC played repeats instead.
I think he will play the cold #s in installments just to drive everyone nuts
 

IDontKnow

Member
Does anyone think it's possible to win this way? By picking numbers that are one number away from the previous draw numbers.
For example:
March 06 2008
02 06 09 12 14 17 19 20 21 24 34 41 46 49 52 53 58 62 64 70

March 05 2008
03 07 12 20 21 23 24 26 29 33 35 38 42 43 46 52 53 62 64 65

If you look at the following numbers: 02 06 19 20 21 24 34 41 52 53 64 for March 06 2008, they are one number away from the previous day (March 05 2008, 03 07 20 21 23 33 35 42 52 53 65) numbers. Maybe we can try to figure something out with this. Or maybe it will be too many numbers to work with. Thanks.
 

roger.www

Member
IDontKnow said:
Does anyone think it's possible to win this way? By picking numbers that are one number away from the previous draw numbers.
For example:
March 06 2008
02 06 09 12 14 17 19 20 21 24 34 41 46 49 52 53 58 62 64 70

March 05 2008
03 07 12 20 21 23 24 26 29 33 35 38 42 43 46 52 53 62 64 65

If you look at the following numbers: 02 06 19 20 21 24 34 41 52 53 64 for March 06 2008, they are one number away from the previous day (March 05 2008, 03 07 20 21 23 33 35 42 52 53 65) numbers. Maybe we can try to figure something out with this. Or maybe it will be too many numbers to work with. Thanks.
ofcourse it is possible, you may have to replay
the combos, keep in mind any pattern
that you observe is only temporary but if you decide
to play according to a certain pattern then perhaps
you want to stick with it for a little while and keep replaying
your tickets.
 

cynth63

Member
wow Roger!!!!!!

Hi all in lotto land:)

Hey Roger I did not come on here for a while and wow..Congrats on all your winnings.

Last night i won $375 playing la quotodien 4 numbers.(any order at 2 dollars).

But like i say my game is at the big C :)


soin less than 2 months you have won over 15000...Cool :)

cynth
 

cynth63

Member
By the way

Hi again.
By the way Roger where were you all this time. it seems its just recently you started posting on here again.

I has actually stopped for a while because no on ewas writing no more.

welcome back:)
cynth
 

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