Number selection method for Pick5 and Pick6 lotteries
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Frank said:Right, bear with me though. It will take a while to go through it all and document it. Some of the groundwork I did years ago, Im a senior citizen now. I'll have to refresh my memory on some of my earlier thought processes.
Frank,
We are ready to assist you where we can.
GameBelgium
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Frank said:Right, bear with me though. It will take a while to go through it all and document it. Some of the groundwork I did years ago, Im a senior citizen now. I'll have to refresh my memory on some of my earlier thought processes.
Thanks in advance for the effort Frank. In my experience, it's always good to refresh the thought process, as it sometimes triggers a new point of view you just didn't think of at the time you originally designed the system.
chose as you sugested to eliminate the lines that showed a repeat. This gave me a possible 20 #'s for winners. By eliminating numbers from the repeating lines i came up with the following winners: 1 5 12 15 16 19 20 28 31 35 36 40. I thought that i would then go to GH's wheel and pick a 4 of5 wheel just to see how it turns out for the 23rd.GameBelgium said:Great idea patron, that will illustrate just how difficult it really is. Here are the most recent 20 draws, next drawing is this Saturday, March 19
08/01/2011 03 07 14 15 33 34
12/01/2011 09 10 13 24 38 42
15/01/2011 03 06 17 27 32 37
19/01/2011 17 22 28 32 33 40
22/01/2011 16 17 18 30 34 35
26/01/2011 02 03 17 30 33 36
29/01/2011 07 17 28 29 40 42
02/02/2011 05 07 17 18 33 38
05/02/2011 06 15 16 18 20 28
09/02/2011 02 04 08 21 23 37
12/02/2011 02 06 15 18 20 30
16/02/2011 08 21 25 29 33 34
19/02/2011 04 21 22 27 35 40
23/02/2011 04 07 12 28 38 42
26/02/2011 01 02 24 25 41 42
02/03/2011 02 06 13 19 27 31
05/03/2011 02 03 05 09 16 40
09/03/2011 07 15 18 22 25 31
12/03/2011 03 08 12 15 25 42
16/03/2011 02 06 11 22 27 41
First thing we have to decide: how many lines of these 20 do we think will have 0 winners? I would go for 8 this time (it's been 8 drawings ago since we last had 8 lines of 0 winners within the last 20). Or do we stick with 7? You guys decide!
madam
GameBelgium
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madam said:
Madam, I'm not sure you got the idea for repeating numbers right. Whether or not there is a repeating number only gives you information about line 20:
- if you think there will be one (or more) repeating numbers, do NOT mark line 20 with a (0)
- if you think there will be no repeating numbers, mark line 20 with a (0).
Having said that, marking all lines with a repeating number is as random as any other method, so who knows, you may get lucky.
Frank
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Here is Part 2. I've played about with various variables and decision criteria but never got all my selections right, which would be an impossibility. One needs to get a lot more than half of them right though.
http://www.mediafire.com/?agwsa781k1ay5ah
Bloubul No, I'm not prepared to share the whole of my spreadsheet, including macros and sort tables. It does a lot more than what we've discussed here. Anyway it contains so much stuff on various related aspects it would be confusing.
I will share a cut down bare bones version, which finds the repeats as seen in screenshots - which I used to use in the early days and can still be used manually.
http://www.mediafire.com/?pumd6d5ild0cgwk
Apart from entering new draws and changing the value in cell V2 by spinner or typing in a value and changing O7 by spinner or typing in a value, I advise you not to type anywhere else if you don't want to overwrite formulas. Its an Excel 2000 sheet and my red line which works via conditional formatting may not work in newer versions of Excel.
http://www.mediafire.com/?agwsa781k1ay5ah
Bloubul No, I'm not prepared to share the whole of my spreadsheet, including macros and sort tables. It does a lot more than what we've discussed here. Anyway it contains so much stuff on various related aspects it would be confusing.
I will share a cut down bare bones version, which finds the repeats as seen in screenshots - which I used to use in the early days and can still be used manually.
http://www.mediafire.com/?pumd6d5ild0cgwk
Apart from entering new draws and changing the value in cell V2 by spinner or typing in a value and changing O7 by spinner or typing in a value, I advise you not to type anywhere else if you don't want to overwrite formulas. Its an Excel 2000 sheet and my red line which works via conditional formatting may not work in newer versions of Excel.
Frank
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I just realised that I hadn't updated the sheet to include Saturdays draw, so that discussion involves predicting the next draw which has aready happenned. 
My inquest table on that prediction tells me that had I only used 12 newer draws, instead of more older ones, 8 of those would have been the right choice.
I'm updating it now with Saturdays result, so as to predict tonights draw.
My top 18 are 38,8,25,30,44,6,11,28,34,42,43,14,19,24,26,33,46,49 in that order. (I need to better 2.2 correct).
My inquest table on that prediction tells me that had I only used 12 newer draws, instead of more older ones, 8 of those would have been the right choice.I'm updating it now with Saturdays result, so as to predict tonights draw.
My top 18 are 38,8,25,30,44,6,11,28,34,42,43,14,19,24,26,33,46,49 in that order. (I need to better 2.2 correct).
GameBelgium said:Great idea patron, that will illustrate just how difficult it really is. Here are the most recent 20 draws, next drawing is this Saturday, March 19
08/01/2011 03 07 14 15 33 34
12/01/2011 09 10 13 24 38 42
15/01/2011 03 06 17 27 32 37
19/01/2011 17 22 28 32 33 40
22/01/2011 16 17 18 30 34 35
26/01/2011 02 03 17 30 33 36
29/01/2011 07 17 28 29 40 42
02/02/2011 05 07 17 18 33 38
05/02/2011 06 15 16 18 20 28
09/02/2011 02 04 08 21 23 37
12/02/2011 02 06 15 18 20 30
16/02/2011 08 21 25 29 33 34
19/02/2011 04 21 22 27 35 40
23/02/2011 04 07 12 28 38 42
26/02/2011 01 02 24 25 41 42
02/03/2011 02 06 13 19 27 31
05/03/2011 02 03 05 09 16 40
09/03/2011 07 15 18 22 25 31
12/03/2011 03 08 12 15 25 42
16/03/2011 02 06 11 22 27 41
First thing we have to decide: how many lines of these 20 do we think will have 0 winners? I would go for 8 this time (it's been 8 drawings ago since we last had 8 lines of 0 winners within the last 20). Or do we stick with 7? You guys decide!
Games Belgium: I picked the following lines with a 0 according to the repeats. This gave me lines 1 2 3 10 12 18 20. After going thru' the routine I came up with the numbers for the 19th as follows:1 5 12 15 16 19 20 28 30 35 36 40. GamesBelgium would you verify these as to how I made out for your 19th.
madam.
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madam said:
Not great
The results for the draw: 02 03 08 12 27 38, so you only had 1 number right. The lines you should have picked: 4, 5, 7, 9, 18
You see how 'destructive' this number selection method is if you pick out the wrong lines to mark with a (0) ?
I'll keep trying to improve the method tho', hope I can come up with some further ideas...
Frank
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Hi Patron. The lotto result last night was 6,18,23,26,32,44 bonus 34.
I said:-
38 8 25 30 44 6 11 28 34 42 43 14 19 24 26 33 46 49
So I got 3 right (6,26,44) plus the bonus ball. 6 and 44 were my 5th and 6th choices in order of preference. I'm usually more pleased the further to the left in my list the matches occur. Not a brilliant result, but I've done worse.
I said:-
38 8 25 30 44 6 11 28 34 42 43 14 19 24 26 33 46 49
So I got 3 right (6,26,44) plus the bonus ball. 6 and 44 were my 5th and 6th choices in order of preference. I'm usually more pleased the further to the left in my list the matches occur. Not a brilliant result, but I've done worse.
