Myth busters for ticket lottery products
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I have seen that too, but that is technically a rare event, and if you were buying 15 tickets at a time, maybe you would buy a couple that were really rare events,blitzed said:
I also notice there is a higher frequency the two digits arent the same, but there are times they are. I also notice that usually no more than 2 numbers from a previous draw are repeated, but i am just talking about sequential recent draws. But it seems two numbers are repeated, of course it doesnt mean they will be in the future, all we can do is observe past events
and then rule out what appears to be a super rare event. The quick pick machine doesnt do that. It is like going through two draws, and then the third now, hoping the ticket doesnt get switched. Some of the clerks I think would take advantage if they could, cause those clerks lied to me about the credit card rule, here there isnt one, the store made the rule up, they dont have a sign, so they cause a silly conflict making the person look difficult. I can see how if a clerk made a scene like that they could do a switch too. I phoned the lotto headquarters to make sure there wasnt a law here.So i think going into a busy store is better, where there is a customer service desk, and a machine where you can check first. I just wish the snow would go. It so much harder to get around. If I had a winning ticket I would go into a store where there were lot of people around, so they couldnt say it is my word against your word. And in that case there were two clerks that were fighting with me. It was terrible, really unpleasant. These small towns are little pecking orders, they spend more energy conflicting as everything was a sum zero game, instead of shuvling snow so people would prefer to walk downtown instead of go to the mall. That abuse of "authority" is not the same as good management. And they were going on about convenience, as if I was the one being paid by the hour.
blitzed said:
You know what I was trying to focus on was that combination wouldn't be picked again for a while, that is what I am talking about. It is is much harder to predict that number being picked, than predicting it wont be picked again in the next couple of weeks. that is what I am talking about. You look at the numbers that have been picked in the recent past and rule out some common sense things, it would be impossible to predict that combination was going to be picked once, it is easier to predict it wont be picked again in the near future. Of course it could be picked it but it would be almost impossible, but chances are with my luck the quick pick machine would pick me a ticket with that number on it the following draw after it was picked, not during the actual draw. You have no control what that machine will give you for a combination. That is what I am talking about. And of course those 3 numbers I picked was the first time i ever won 6/49. I have won scratch and wins. I can't imagine myself being lucky twice in a row, I am seldom lucky once instead of twice. But people are are winning all the time.
probably lots of them by tickets through that machine and win, I just never have. When I picked I did win. Maybe I will never win again. 
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yup, but 2 numbers tricklin down into the next draw isn't so common, especially for the bigger lottos.
one number tricklin down to the next draw is fairly common, especially in CA Fantasy 5 which is a 5/39...so that is another wager I will sometimes go after, if the trickle hasn't happened in quite a while, then I'll craft some picks ot shoot for it
If I had a really good winner, I'd probably just hop on a plane and take it straight to the lottery commission
seeya,
blitzed
one number tricklin down to the next draw is fairly common, especially in CA Fantasy 5 which is a 5/39...so that is another wager I will sometimes go after, if the trickle hasn't happened in quite a while, then I'll craft some picks ot shoot for it
If I had a really good winner, I'd probably just hop on a plane and take it straight to the lottery commission
seeya,
blitzed
Rob50 said:
I thought ou wanted my whole theory, not just one line.
A summary:
What I woud mean by Cracking the Lotto you could eliminate the combinations that you observe to have lowest odds, obviously you can't predict what will be picked, but you would be able to eliminate what probably won't be picked.
Like we were saying with that strange combination above, you couldnt predict that combo being picked once but you could predict it wouldnt be picked twice in the near future. Even though some of the numbers in the combo could be picked, not all the same would be picked. So the probability distribution would be known closer to certainty than to infinity.
You can't explain it in one line.
The other part of it, maybe there is a flaw in the lotto machine, why the mode is not in the center, there are studies relating to the attributes of the lotto machine how it effects numbers falling out, obviously there may be no reason some numbers fall out more often than others. It could be a combo of gravity, width volume etc in the design of the machine. That would be inside knowledge, probably if you discovered a flaw they would deny it, and replace the machine.
Well, good luck then, but if it is for that I have already almost cracked the lotto.I can predict every Wednesday and every Saturday night before the 6/49 draws 1000 lines that will not be drawn, so you can eliminate them. If you want, every Friday I can do this for the Super Seven. In this case I will be even more generous, I will predict 3000 lines that will not be drawn, so you can eleminate them, too. Could you pay just one dollar for this service?
I think a big factor in increasing your chances of beating the odds, is to pool the resources, instead of everyone just buying one or two tickets, people as a goup bought 15 at time, keeping in mind the recent frequent numbers. Not buying the tickets randomly, of course people can argue against it, in some ways they would be right, cause you dont know, but as theory goes, the frequent numbers which appear in combos seem to re-appear in an observable pattern. Going backwards is probably part of it. Sor to like doing paper math from right to left and math in your head from left to right. But to explain what cracking the lottery means, to me or anyone, would be way more than one line.
No that is just half of it, the idea is to bable to get some of the numbers right. Most people would never say you get 6 right, people often try to do 4 or 5, or even 3. And playing one at a time probably isnt a good test of the theory, pools of 15 or so would give it a better chance.Rob50 said:
Basically everyone plays against each other, if people started to play together we could possibly turn the odds around.
People have car pools, why not lotto pools, people who are going to play anyway, share a pool of 15, instead of playing by yourself. I am not saying buy fifteen more tickets, i am just saying the big one is we work against each other, when we need to be working against the odds against us and work with each other.
Often the winning numbers are in a series people discard. I have done that 3 out 5 times with 5 numbers. And the elements to agree on, the frequent numbers against an honest independant number generator.
Often the winning numbers are in a series people discard. I have done that 3 out 5 times with 5 numbers. And the elements to agree on, the frequent numbers against an honest independant number generator.
I bet a lot of people are noticing the same thing, and of course a lot of people are probably discarding the same numbers, and most people would be going beyond their limit if they bought 15 planned tickets every draw, somebody would probably report them to gambling anonymous or what have you.
And possibly if a trend was started, lotto's pools, it would get a lot of bad press. Until the lotto pool started to win. And all kinds of people would start them. People are playing anyway. Of course 15 shared chances are better than one lone. Each ticket has a chance, regardless of the odds. I know it is not that simple. But planned mutlitple ticket buying seems to work for some people, better than when they were randomly playing one ticket at a time. Of course if you bought that many tickets in this town, you would probably get reported.
And possibly if a trend was started, lotto's pools, it would get a lot of bad press. Until the lotto pool started to win. And all kinds of people would start them. People are playing anyway. Of course 15 shared chances are better than one lone. Each ticket has a chance, regardless of the odds. I know it is not that simple. But planned mutlitple ticket buying seems to work for some people, better than when they were randomly playing one ticket at a time. Of course if you bought that many tickets in this town, you would probably get reported.
You obviously dont want to do 1000 lines, you want to stay in the recent probability distribution of 100 lines, assuming 1 line is one draw to compare too. If you go into the long run, the frequent numbers even out more, it is when you look at them in recent draws the frequency stands out more.
And the other big one, and this is a big one, you would want to make sure you could look at the numbers first before you bought, to make sure the probability wasnt way off. Car pools make a huge difference, they reduce smog, increase rate of distance travelled by less cars. Imagine what lotto pools could do. Lots of people buy in pools already, but I wouldnt think most people would even venture on agreeing what numbers they would try to play together. I could just imagine, the kind of arguments would come out of it.
I think if a person was working in a place that was selling lotto tickets, they could buy 15 at time if they wanted to without anyone knowing, and if they noticed the frequency distribution against the recent numbers they possibly could be winning honestly. I can loofive numbersk back and say it is too bad I didnt buy 5 lines and I would have won 3 out 5 draws . But I had no way of knowing at the time, that I had the right numbers, all I knew is there is a chance of winning and bigger chance of losing each time you play. And I there are other things I would rather do with my money. I am just going to play the 6 same numbers for a while.People say that works too for them. I have no idea if my discarded numbers will win again. I wont know until after they come up. Probably what is really going on is some retailers are winning honestly and some possibly aren't. I would definitely not choose a store that was was quiet and had aggressive clerks working there. If I won big I would have checked the internet for the numbers, sign the ticket and send it registered mail to the lotto address and I would have a zerox copy of both sides of the ticket. But any theory that would try to lower the odds from 1 to close to 14 million to 1 in 15, you would not beable to develop or explain it in one line. Believing it would be pretty hard for people to do. But I have a funny feeling some of those retailers are winning honestly. They did my credit card when I bought the ticket they were just making a big deal over nothing. There is also the vibrating and frequency part of the theory that would take more pages to describe.