Increasing the Isolator accuracy

taaroa

Member
Springbok said:
"Hi SpringBok,

With 3 numbers to play, what would be the money management to get positive benefits?

Thanks

taaroa"

If you bet the 3 numbers up to the fourth draw your rate of return in proportion to the money you risk is not good. On the other hand, these technique is pretty safe. A way around this would be to select a few 3 number sets and any that do not hit in the next 2 draws then bet only for the third and fourth draws. Experiment and check this out. remember you need a number of files to seek out these numbers. Every idea must be thoroughly tested.

Thanks SpringBok,

According to the test you made with 21 eliminators, only two hit in the third draw and one in the third draw. So 4 out of 21 is a low ratio. Isolator is better than that. I think we must play in the two first draw with a 16 out 21 ratio, the problem remaining the money management. Now, we must test these ratios on a longer period to confirm the trend. If so, I think that Fullhouse ratios must be adapted to 3 numbers, the first draw with 1 unit of each number, etc...I'll test this method.

taaroa
 

Springbok

Member
Here is an example of trying to hit in the 3rd or 4th draws. Below you will see the last 4 draws.(most recent at top). Alpha(13,14,15,16) is brought into action. No 16 hit in the third last draw so alpha4 now qualifies as one number is knocked out.We have 3 numbers to bet on(13,14,15) because nothing hit in the next 2 draws. Based on previous experiences, one of those 3 numbers should hit at lunchtime or teatime today. When I originally chose alpha4 I cut the most recent 4 draws away from my file when I ran the stats report on MDIED. Alpha 4 and alpha5 both had 4 skips(the highest of all the alpha4 numbers). I then checked to see how they performed in the next 4 draws.Alpha3(9,10,11,12) was knocked out because numbers 9 and 10 came up. Of course had I bet on alpha3 it would have qualified in the 4th last draw when number 9 was knocked out and hit in 2 draws after that but here we are looking for a set of 3 numbers that did not hit within 2 draws after qualifying so alpha4 is the one to go for. If everyting goes according to plan then one of those 3 numbers will hit today 15 July at either lunchtime or teatime.



3 4 16 23 27 33 39
9 10 23 27 30 47 49
3 5 16 26 28 35 47
7 9 17 19 20 35 41
 

barge

Member
First Blood

Hi Springbok,

My first attempt, just using Eliminator, qualified last night with 11(skip29!) and 13 (skip 23!). I bet on both draws today, and got 11. I will try the remaining two tomorrow. Low bets to start, but a small profit!
A couple of questions:
How do you get the median of your Alpha file? What exactly is in the file....I understand that the alpha numbers each represent lotto numbers, but can't get my head round finding the median of the file.
Do you use a seven number per line sim file beneath your real dbase?

Many thanks
 

taaroa

Member
Springbok said:
Here is an example of trying to hit in the 3rd or 4th draws. Below you will see the last 4 draws.(most recent at top). Alpha(13,14,15,16) is brought into action. No 16 hit in the third last draw so alpha4 now qualifies as one number is knocked out.We have 3 numbers to bet on(13,14,15) because nothing hit in the next 2 draws. Based on previous experiences, one of those 3 numbers should hit at lunchtime or teatime today. When I originally chose alpha4 I cut the most recent 4 draws away from my file when I ran the stats report on MDIED. Alpha 4 and alpha5 both had 4 skips(the highest of all the alpha4 numbers). I then checked to see how they performed in the next 4 draws.Alpha3(9,10,11,12) was knocked out because numbers 9 and 10 came up. Of course had I bet on alpha3 it would have qualified in the 4th last draw when number 9 was knocked out and hit in 2 draws after that but here we are looking for a set of 3 numbers that did not hit within 2 draws after qualifying so alpha4 is the one to go for. If everyting goes according to plan then one of those 3 numbers will hit today 15 July at either lunchtime or teatime.



3 4 16 23 27 33 39
9 10 23 27 30 47 49
3 5 16 26 28 35 47
7 9 17 19 20 35 41

Hi,

Springbok, 15 from alpha4(13,14,15) pop up at lunchtime as you forecast it.

49s - 15 JUL 2007
Lunchtime 11-15-17-25-38-40-36
Teatime 12-19-20-23-39-44-21

taaroa
 

Springbok

Member
I have been searching for a 4 number group that has qualified and then not hit with the remaining 3 numbers in the next 2 draws. I have found none. The closest I can get is omega1. Omega1(6, 15. 32 ,43) qualified when no 15 hit 2 draws ago. The surviving numbers did not hit in the last draw but we would like to see them not hit in today's lunchtime draw. If they don't hit then we can bet from teatime onwards(Monday 16 July). There is a high probability one of them will hit lunchtime but hopefully they will not.
 

Springbok

Member
Well nothing hit lunchtime which was good and if you started betting for teatime then 32 hit and you earned a little bit of money. Here we are trying to catch the three number set in the third and fourth draw after qualifying. Of course if you could get rid of one number so much the better.
 

Springbok

Member
barge said:
Hi Springbok,

My first attempt, just using Eliminator, qualified last night with 11(skip29!) and 13 (skip 23!). I bet on both draws today, and got 11. I will try the remaining two tomorrow. Low bets to start, but a small profit!
A couple of questions:
How do you get the median of your Alpha file? What exactly is in the file....I understand that the alpha numbers each represent lotto numbers, but can't get my head round finding the median of the file.
Do you use a seven number per line sim file beneath your real dbase?

Many thanks

A file contains 24 number pairs or sets.Eg 3 and 45 is a number set. Now in the alpha file the set could be known as alpha7. When you create a file you will pick 24 sets any way you want. A number must never repeat in the same file. Create as many files as you want but a number set must never repeat in any other file. It is best to embed these files in a computer programme that will convert the real drawings according to the files you are using. I use a VB 6 application which does it as quick as a flash. You must download MDIED as it will give you the statistical reporting on the file in question. It will also calculates the medians. At a later stage I will open a thread with the strange title of how to communicate with mumber sets and how they communicate with you. Incidently out of 24 number sets, 75% tend to hit in 4 draws and 25% go on after 4 draws. Just randomly picking a number pair gives you a 75% chance of hitting a number in 4 draws.
PS I dont' use simulated files with the 49s as I am only after one or two numbers. With the Thunderball and UK 6/48 I use simulated files that run into millions of combinations and I mean millions.
 

LT

Administrator
Hey barge - I see that it is your birthday today!
All the best to you on your natal day :birthday: :party: :thumb:
 

barge

Member
Endbox

Hi Endbox, I am curious to know if you are still using your 8x4 grid successfully or not? I have tried a couple without success.........but this may just in a bad spell for grids!:look:
 

endbox

Member
Hi barge

Yes , is the short answer ......I've found that the slight "tweak" from the original 7x5 grid works better
The crooks of it all was the losing runs I suffered using the 7x5.....Sometimes 4 + on the trot which was a non starter.
In the last 100 isolators using the 8x4 I've had only 2 consecutive losses !
From 1st of June I put £10 into betting account.........Now at £24.50
Not a great winning amount I agree.
I increase each bet by 50% only....ie
1st bet..10p per number
2nd.......15p per number
3rd........25p per number
4th.......25p per number
The reason why I don't bet any more on the 4th bet is basically it doesn't show that often. Plus if you have a losing Isolator then a bet of 40p per number will re-coup +10p
 

endbox

Member
Hi barge

PS , I know it's the wrong thread but Patrick's software puts a totally different slat on all this.....A brilliant piece of software !
 

barge

Member
Hi Endbox,

Many thanks for the info, I have been using the "winds" regularly, but as you suggest, they can be variable, and I have had a lot of non-hits. I just started an 8 by 4 sheet as below:

1 3 4 5 8 9 11 12
13 16 17 19 21 22 23 24
25 27 29 30 31 33 35 37
39 40 41 43 44 45 47 49

i don't know how crucial the choice of numbers are, but we shall see how it goes!:agree:
 

endbox

Member
Hi barge

I think any 8x4 grid will do.......I use 5 grids in rotation , using Springbok's technique of counting back until 2 numbers are left on a line
take care endbox
 

Springbok

Member
Hi Barge and Endbox
You don't need the grids(Northwind, Southwind etc) any more. You get the same and more accurate effect with winlotto. This makes it possible for you to use and create your own files without having to use VB 6 as I did. I am converting the VB 6 files so winlotto can read them. Below you will see two files. One pair and one trip. Copy each and paste them into a text file(delete the names). Load one into the winlotto filter and run the analysis. There are a number of viewpoints. Look at historical highs(above 17). Look at the skips section. Look for fencesitters, opening batsmen. Also look for pairs which have ended their skip cycles above the median(including the current skip). Run numerous tests on these scenarios and see what happens. Make your own files so you have a lot of choice. If nothing catches your fancy then use another file. The most accurate predictions are made with trips although the pairs are pretty accurate.

alpha2
9 20
27 4
40 46
18 41
49 15
10 22
3 19
33 8
24 31
21 35
38 7
23 32
5 43
47 2
13 28
14 42
45 1
25 48
11 12
36 6
30 34
26 29
44 16
17 37

zulu3
3 22 49
21 34 37
24 29 35
7 9 43
17 20 23
32 45 46
5 14 15
18 19 40
2 28 44
31 41 42
1 38 39
26 36 47
8 16 48
10 27 30
4 6 11
12 25 33
 

endbox

Member
Hi Springbok

Hi Springbok , thanks for that.......Patrick's software is such a versatile tool.
Still messing around with it....
Take care endbox
 

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