Here's a stupid question....

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gsobier

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Re: Re: Here's a stupid question....

...here is a sample of a boot.ini with a few partitions:

[boot loader]
timeout=-1
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Production" /fastdetect /noguiboot
C:\BOOTSECT.W95="DOS (Windows 95)"
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Test" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

...some of the lines got split into two, oh well.

...a little hint if you are interested... ...timeout=-1 means, there is no countdown before a boot in the default partition... ...watchout, msconfig changes it to 3:no::burnt: without telling you!..

Nick Koutras said:
See info on Multibooting...
http://help.lockergnome.com/index.php?act=ST&f=70&t=28078
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Dennis Bassboss

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Too much work tonite to do anything... :bawl: Sad story is that I start early tomorrow morning...But good story is that I also finish early tomorrow...So see you then folks!
And have a nice... :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:
 
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gsobier

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...real programmers don't sleep... ...well, don't admit to it:lol:... ...this thread of yours here is fun:D...
Dennis Bassboss said:
Too much work tonite to do anything... :bawl: Sad story is that I start early tomorrow morning...But good story is that I also finish early tomorrow...So see you then folks!
And have a nice... :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:
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thornc

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nipsirc and gsobier:
sorry for I creating such a passioned discussion. I only meant to present to others that there are different forms of protecting your data!
In my opinnion archiving and backuping are two different things with two different ultimate goals that is why they are implemented in different forms!
In a backup you usually keep multiple time related copies of the same data, for example you dump to a tape a file on monday, then on tuesday you dump the difference of that file to the same tape (but it is store on a different location), on wednesday you do it again and so on. So if on friday you realised you made a mistake on wednesday than you restore the initial backup of monday and the tuesday difference and you are set!
With archiving you duplicate the copy (usually without compression) and you keep only the current instance of a single file. So you can't revert backup to an older copy!
And please guys don't start comparing your guns to see which one is bigger! (I would win any way :D ;) :p:, seriously I doubt any of you manages the amount of data I do these days! We are now at 1Penta Byte and growing around 200GB per day and soon that number should double!)
Just provide good advice to people and that is it.


For personnal backup any type of solution that actually duplicates your data to different media (and possibly also from inside the computer) is more than enough!
Charles' solution is good, Brad's solution is good, nipsirc solution is good, gsobier solution is good, my solution is acceptable(the implemented one) so if you aren't doing any of this start seriouly thinking of doing it.
But like gsobier points out, test that your backups/archives can be easily and accurately restored, there is nothing worse than a false sense of security!
 
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gsobier

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Thornc:

Its just common sense to try it... ...there is nothing worse than being surprised with a restore failure... ...thats what is important.

You just ask yourself, "If I replaced a hard drive, will my restore work?". Something to think about:eek:.

My preparation provides as recovery for many reasons. I've done a format and restore of the Windows XP partition many times when trying out potentially dangerous things... ...this is how you can learn about many things and answer these questions you might have by trying it yourself... ...experience is the best teacher.

Regards,
George:)
thornc said:
But like gsobier points out, test that your backups/archives can be easily and accurately restored, there is nothing worse than a false sense of security!
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KIM

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Dennis Bassboss said:
Nipsirc...if you continue like that you will replace me as the most hated character on this board...
NAAAAA....can't beat me.... :lol:
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What is all this fiasco?

Why would Nipsirc replace you as most hated?

What am I'm missing?
 
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nipsirc

Member
Dennis Bassboss said:
Nipsirc...if you continue like that you will replace me as the most hated character on this board...
NAAAAA....can't beat me.... :lol:
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DB

Can't beat the greatest.... BUT at least I'm not jealous.... ;) :lol:

Won't continue with this discussion as the old man assumes everything and is high up that imaginary pedestal and can't see what's actually cooking and a huge & useless waste of my time and LT's bandwidth though it's been fun.

ThornC, though I don't agree with the archiving/backup stuff, you are right, we should not compare our apples. So I'm bowing out
Anyway, good luck with your pentabyte backup. Wow, that's huge......


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charles2

Member
thornc said:
nipsirc and gsobier:
sorry for I creating such a passioned discussion. I only meant to present to others that there are different forms of protecting your data!
In my opinnion archiving and backuping are two different things with two different ultimate goals that is why they are implemented in different forms!
In a backup you usually keep multiple time related copies of the same data, for example you dump to a tape a file on monday, then on tuesday you dump the difference of that file to the same tape (but it is store on a different location), on wednesday you do it again and so on. So if on friday you realised you made a mistake on wednesday than you restore the initial backup of monday and the tuesday difference and you are set!
With archiving you duplicate the copy (usually without compression) and you keep only the current instance of a single file. So you can't revert backup to an older copy!
And please guys don't start comparing your guns to see which one is bigger! (I would win any way :D ;) :p:, seriously I doubt any of you manages the amount of data I do these days! We are now at 1Penta Byte and growing around 200GB per day and soon that number should double!)
Just provide good advice to people and that is it.


For personnal backup any type of solution that actually duplicates your data to different media (and possibly also from inside the computer) is more than enough!
Charles' solution is good, Brad's solution is good, nipsirc solution is good, gsobier solution is good, my solution is acceptable(the implemented one) so if you aren't doing any of this start seriouly thinking of doing it.
But like gsobier points out, test that your backups/archives can be easily and accurately restored, there is nothing worse than a false sense of security!
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:agree2: :agree2: :agree2: :agree2:

thornc i remember we used to store mulitple backups at different locations of the plant, safes, town and employees houses outside of town just in case the plant burned down or the town burned down ..etc etc


their was ALOT of programming to save ...they weren't fooling around:lol:
 
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charles2

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KIM said:
What is all this fiasco?

Why would Nipsirc replace you as most hated?

What am I'm missing?
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Kim, best to turn your back and walk away from this discussion, i see nothing, i hear nothing, i know nothingggggggggggggggggggg :rolleyes: :lol:
 
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gsobier

Member
PAB:

No, I don't have XP Home... ...are you going to try it?

Regards,
George:)
PAB said:
Hi gsobier,

Have you had time to Download the NTBACKUP.MSI from this Site yet :-

http://www.onecomputerguy.com/windo...htm#backup_home

I wondered if it is the Real FULL McCoy that came with most of the XP CD-ROM's, and if it is SAFE to Download. If it is, is there ANY little Tricks to make the Download Nice and Smooth.

Thanks for Your Help

All the Best
PAB
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gsobier

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...thats correct, I've seen many shops go to great lengths for Disaster Recovery... ...lots of work... ...they even did testing on weekends to make sure they could recover at a temporary site using off-site backups... ...one test I remember clearly was a "disaster"... ...the company responsible for sending backup tapes failed to send the correct ones:lol:...
charles2 said:
:agree2: :agree2: :agree2: :agree2:

thornc i remember we used to store mulitple backups at different locations of the plant, safes, town and employees houses outside of town just in case the plant burned down or the town burned down ..etc etc


their was ALOT of programming to save ...they weren't fooling around:lol:
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gsobier

Member
...nothing more than testosterone here:lol::rolling::lol:...
charles2 said:
Kim, best to turn your back and walk away from this discussion, i see nothing, i hear nothing, i know nothingggggggggggggggggggg :rolleyes: :lol:
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KIM

Member
okay

i see nothing and i know nothing, sounds weird though :lol:

on another note;

gsobier, what's you tip for tonight's super 7? i see you don't have that chart like you have in lotto 6-49
 
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gsobier

Member
KIM:

There is no point playing Stoopid 7 here in Ontario... ...$2 gets you only one line and 2 Quick Picks:burnt:!

Regards,
George:)
KIM said:
okay

i see nothing and i know nothing, sounds weird though :lol:

on another note;

gsobier, what's you tip for tonight's super 7? i see you don't have that chart like you have in lotto 6-49
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PAB

Member
Thanks for the Reply George,

It is a "Catch 22" Situation :confused: .
I should "BackUp" my Files ( System ) BEFORE Downloading the "BackUp" Program, thats Ironic.

Thanks Anyway :agree2: .
All the Best
PAB
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gsobier

Member
PAB:

Yes it is if you have only one computer. Remember me telling everyone to test a recovery? Windows XP Home is not allowed in multiple partitions on the same computer... ...hiding partitions with something like Partition Magic run from DOS is also required. You really need to get Windows XP Professional to do things properly.

Regards,
George:)
PAB said:
Thanks for the Reply George,

It is a "Catch 22" Situation :confused: .
I should "BackUp" my Files ( System ) BEFORE Downloading the "BackUp" Program, thats Ironic.

Thanks Anyway :agree2: .
All the Best
PAB
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