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Iamswamee

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What I'd like to say

I don't understand this ongoing animosity to the United States. I have thought about arming myself with statistics on aid provided to other countries, etc., etc. But, this grows tiring. So, I bid Adieu. I am leaving this group and website. I hope that all of you hit the big one and live joyous peaceful lives.

Signing off, Jennifer
 

shirazbai

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bit late today cuz my server was down, oh well ...

Dennis Bassboss said:
Interesting...I don't see it that way...

Dennis, you don't see Canada as a free democracy that fights racism and discrimination? Or exactly what way don't you see it?

But the biggest question is this one...Could Canada even exist if the U.S. didn't???? :confused:

... and could the US even exist if France didn't? What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? Nothing. And it benefits this discussion in the same way.

Dennis, a couple of rules of etiquette usually followed on these boards as I see it are:

1. Follow the subject matter, i.e. do not derail the thread
2. When bringing back to life a long dead thread or episode within a thread, refer to #1

On that note, if you wish to discuss the displacement of natives in the world, I will be willing to help provide a balanced debate in a new thread.

((peace dove))
((olive branch))
((peanut butter)) :)
 
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shirazbai said:
Dennis, you don't see Canada as a free democracy that fights racism and discrimination? Or exactly what way don't you see it?



... and could the US even exist if France didn't? What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? Nothing. And it benefits this discussion in the same way.

Dennis, a couple of rules of etiquette usually followed on these boards as I see it are:

1. Follow the subject matter, i.e. do not derail the thread
2. When bringing back to life a long dead thread or episode within a thread, refer to #1

On that note, if you wish to discuss the displacement of natives in the world, I will be willing to help provide a balanced debate in a new thread.

((peace dove))
((olive branch))
((peanut butter)) :)
Derail the thread...???? Any massacre in canadian history is directly related to this topic of freedom and racisism....Easy to preech tolerance agains racism when you've already have extinct many races inside your country....isn't-it???
Canada is not different from any other country in the world...
:dang:
 

Brad

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WMD or PB??

shirazbai said:
>>> ((peanut butter)) :)
Sheesh ... now you've got peanut butter all over the thread ... what kinda etiquette is that?? ... :dang:

On the other hand, I read somewhere that one of them deadly WMD chemicals degrades to a useless brown paste with a consistency of runny PB after a few months ... could it be that Jimmy Carter will have the last laugh? .... :lol:

... no breach of etiquette here afterall :D
 

nipsirc

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........ and I thought this forum was all about the lotteries.........hmmmmm

must have made a wrong turn here somewhere... LOL


Politics and Religion and what else..... there are no winners ALWAYS !!! :agree: ROTFLMAO
 

mirage

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(Originally posted by Iamswamee)

What I'd like to say
I don't understand this ongoing animosity to the United States. I have thought about arming myself with statistics on aid provided to other countries, etc., etc. But, this grows tiring. So, I bid Adieu. I am leaving this group and website. I hope that all of you hit the big one and live joyous peaceful lives.

Signing off, Jennifer

Tsk. Tsk. Now you've alienated Jennifer from Vegas, a lady who showed a fair bit of class, seemed professional in her handling of issues, a team player with potentially lots of knowledge and interesting things to share... It's such a shame... :cry:
It makes me :eek: what's going on here.
 

Teufellj

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REAnimosity Towards U.S.?

Hey there folks, I am an American, I can say that I have Not found any putdowns or animosity towards the peoples this side of the Canadian border. Where and what is the gripe? Just because to me you speak a different dialect, what's the big deal?
If your country and mine went to say---Northern Africa or Russia---There most assuredly would be cultural and linguistic chaos. But if the know it alls and the do gooders were to keep their two cents and let us be---we can and would find a way to say---LET'S BE FRIENDS! Yes, I am strange by some of your standards but the reverse is also true.

This website was created for gamblers and wannabes to learn and give information concerning various games of chance not how to be small and petty and destroy moral. There are sections set off for breathing heavy to getting some news to learning information about lotterys, period.

Teufellj...
 

cleopatra

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Iamswamee: I am sorry to read that you are leaving. I wish you would change your mind. Please understand that not all Canadians hate the USA, or even that it is an inherent trait of Canadians. You have to understand that liberals control nearly the entire media in Canada. The very leftwing CBC is on free TV and is broadcast in different languages to every little village in even the most remote parts of Canada, thus Canadians are indoctrinated in liberal views and taught to despise Conservative values, i.e, low taxes, small government, less government in people's lives, personal responsibility, freedom, family values and Christianity. Liberals hate our national anthem because it says "God keep our land glorious and free!"

It is drummed into your head from practically the day you are born. It takes a strong mind to see through the relentless propaganda. Heck, the wildly successful Fox News Channel is banned in Canada. Anyone caught with their signal is subject to 6 months in jail or a $10,000 fine. However the wildly anti-American and anti-semitic Al Jazeera was just approved a license to broadcast in Canada by the CRTC (a body that is stuffed with unelected liberal hacks who decide what Canadians can and can't view on their TV).

If there was a liberal President in the USA, there would not be so much hostility against the USA from Canadians at this time. The hostility comes from there being a Conservative president in the USA. That is the root of all the hatred because of the indoctrination Canadians are subject to. Brad gave an excellent example when he said he didn't care that Jean Chretien's daughter and son-in-law had huge monetary interests in France's TotalFinaElf oil company (a company that was in bed with Saddam); he thought that Chretien did the right thing by putting blood money first and the genocide of Iraqis second. Why? Because it is the opposite of what the Conservative George Bush thought. It is what Brad has been taught since he was a small child.

Our media's views could be summed up like this:

Clinton spends $77 billion on war in Serbia - good. Bush spends $87 billion in Iraq - bad.

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good. Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad.

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good. Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad.

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists - good. Bush liberates 25 million Muslims from a genocidal dictator - bad.

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good. Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad.

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good. Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad.

Clinton commits felonies while in office - good. Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad.

Clinton says mass graves in Serbia - good. Entire world says WMD in Iraq - bad.

No mass graves found in Serbia - good. Not all Iraq's WMDs found - bad.

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good. Clinton recession continues after 9/11 during Bush administration - bad.

Clinton refuses Sudan's 3 offers to take custody of Bin Laden - good. Bush fails to capture Bin Laden instantly while searching the twisted labyrinth of underground caves in the no-mans land of Afghanistan - bad.

Clinton bombs an empty tent in Afghanistan - good. Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad.

George Tenet 's CIA screws up for 8 years of Clinton administration - good. George Tenet dismissed after screwing up under Bush - bad.

Milosevic in custody (but not convicted of anything years later) - good. Saddam in custody - bad (you should have seen the long faces on the CBC News the day Saddam was dragged out of his rathole).

I hope this gives you an idea of the kind of "critical" thinking Canadians are subject to by their media in Canada. Canadians are taught to hate anything that is conservative, thus their hatred for George Bush. All of the TV news is controlled by liberals and there is only 1 national newspaper that offers a different perspective (conservative) - that being the National Post. It is truly surprising how good the Conservatives do in this country under those circumstances.

I hope this helps clear things up and I hope you reconsider your decision to leave. :)

Off to bed for me now, but I will be back soon. I see some more "interesting facts" have sprung up since my last visit. Hopefully Brad can stay on topic instead of veering off course and talking about the Shah of Iran on a thread about Iraq. ;) :wavey:
 

Brad

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Hey Cleo

I am returning this otherwise good post (above) to you because someone has printed gibberish all over it and put your name at the top. :sick:
 

LT

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hmmmmmmm - all of this from a simple question "Saddam finally captured. Wonder what they'll do with him now?"

I have to agree with nipsirc that topics on religion or politics are a no win situation. Everyone has strong opinions in these areas and someone or everyone's feelings will get bruised at some point.

Iamswamee - I hope that you would consider staying or at least returning at a later date. I have always appreciated the quality of your contributions.

Should I try to find a "group hug" emoticon to upload to the smilies section? Would anyone use it?
 

cleopatra

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I am returning this otherwise good post (above) to you because someone has printed gibberish all over it

It's a good post, but it has gibberish. Welcome to Brad's World - where good = gibberish, up = down, genocide = good, and liberation = bad. :D

Your logic is amazing. :heul:
 

Brad

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OK Cleopatra, let's not make this too personal. You made some faulty observations in your previous posts and I pointed out some weaknesses in your links.

My lighthearted reply to your attempt to prove your case is an indication that I don't want to take this any further. Main reason being is that you and I don't have compatible opinions on many things so why not leave it at that. Please respect the fact that I don't want to continue your 'challenges', let's agree to disagree,

Have a nice day :wavey:
 
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Korax

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The Good ppl of the USA must take over their Gov,Media etc etc
Otherwise this country will be toasted one day.

It's no wonder many ppl around the world hate them...Even Europe hates them more than ever!!
 

jbiff

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Brad said:
My lighthearted reply to your attempt to prove your case is an indication that I don't want to take this any further. Main reason being is that you and I don't have compatible opinions on many things so why not leave it at that. Please respect the fact that I don't want to continue your 'challenges', let's agree to disagree,
:

I must agree with what brad is saying here, “let's agree to disagree”.
Cleo, please take the pointing finger and place it in its holster.
Both sides sound like their victims of spin to some degree, and spin will allow
an infinite degree of fact distortion…in other words this could go on for ever.


Back to the thread now
The way things are going over there I think SoDamn has an equal chance
of getting the death penalty or a return to power.
 

shirazbai

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jbiff said:
Back to the thread now
The way things are going over there I think SoDamn has an equal chance
of getting the death penalty or a return to power.

Closer to the truth than many would dare to think.

Iraq's currently appointed interim Prime Minister, Ayad Allawi, was appointed not by the people of Iraq, but by the Bush administration. This is the same Ayad Allawi who was was in Saddam's secret police, the Mukhabarat, in the 80's and was responsible for multiple bombings including a schoolbus full of kids. The same Allawi that later had a falling out with Saddam and in the 90's collaborated with the CIA in planting bombs to sabotage government facilities and to try to depose Saddam. Now that Saddam is gone, the old guard can enjoy his newly formed old style secret police force once again. This time he has the keys to the sole cruiser to boot... and some nice shiny guns. (all underlined parts are links to sources)

So while I wouldn't necessarily give the old Saddam a 50/50 chance of reclaiming his throne, I would certainly give the new Saddam (read Allawi) at least the same chances as in my sig. :)


edit: spelling (Iyad > Ayad)
 
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