Any tips for getting rid of numbers?

Sheba

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Yes. First neglect the numbers of the last draw.

Second look for the real position of the current cicle and consider at least two of the missing numbers.
 

thornc

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Wellcome to the board rubronegro...

Problem with your strategy is that at around 50% of the times (what's the real figure here Gilles?) a number repeats from the last draw! That means that you would lose the 6/6!
 
In a 6/49 scheme the probability of having one number from past draw is 11.04% . If you run this figure in a BOLTZMAN'S machine at least 6 times, which is the number of balls drawn, this will result in somethinh between 3,5% and 3,9%. Various factors alter the virtual probability and the practical one. Please refer to Stochastic experiments under Monte Carlo asimulation and Boltzmann machine
 

Beaker

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rubronegro said:
In a 6/49 scheme the probability of having one number from past draw is 11.04% . If you run this figure in a BOLTZMAN'S machine at least 6 times, which is the number of balls drawn, this will result in somethinh between 3,5% and 3,9%. Various factors alter the virtual probability and the practical one. Please refer to Stochastic experiments under Monte Carlo asimulation and Boltzmann machine
What lotto do you play? and have you verified these results empirically with that lotto? :confused:
 
Dear Friend

I have won ten times 6/6 since 1984 up today. I lost the times I won 5 numbers which is quite impressive amount, by doing what you call a empirical method. Also I had win many times in a 15/25 system, by applying the same method. Have you heard about neural network?
 

Beaker

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rubronegro said:
Dear Friend

I have won ten times 6/6 since 1984 up today. I lost the times I won 5 numbers which is quite impressive amount, by doing what you call a empirical method. Also I had win many times in a 15/25 system, by applying the same method. Have you heard about neural network?
Congratulations on those hits :agree:

rubronegro, the data in Canada649 does not support your probability estimation :no: looking at 7 numbers from the previous draw and hitting at least one

I have heard if neural nets :agree: and have been looking into some software to implement but need to read up on them.

One thing I don't understand about your method - you look at balls positionally and get a confidence interval - say 95% - how many balls do you have in each postion?? within your confidence interval?
 
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thornc

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Yes, and of Monte Carlo Runs, Gauss-Markov simulations and even Kalman Filters.... Although I prefer Genetic Algorithms!

Major question is, can they be succefully applied to Lottos? I hope so, but so far I haven't seen one working!

As for your winnings, say the English speaking say: talking is cheap!! Show us your numbers!!!

Tommorow there is a Canadian 6/49 draw, post some picks and let's see how you do!

E já agora, porque é que eu nunca ouvi falar de si! Um tipo que ganha 10 vezes o jackpot já teria aparecido na Globo uma serie de vezes!!!
 
Beaker said:
What lotto do you play? and have you verified these results empirically with that lotto? :confused:


Dear Friend

I have won ten times 6/6 since 1984 up today. I lost the times I won 5 numbers which is quite impressive amount, by doing what you call a empirical method. Also I had win many times in a 15/25 system, by applying the same method. Have you heard about neural network?
 
thornc said:
Yes, and of Monte Carlo Runs, Gauss-Markov simulations and even Kalman Filters.... Although I prefer Genetic Algorithms!

Major question is, can they be succefully applied to Lottos? I hope so, but so far I haven't seen one working!

As for your winnings, say the English speaking say: talking is cheap!! Show us your numbers!!!

Tommorow there is a Canadian 6/49 draw, post some picks and let's see how you do!

E já agora, porque é que eu nunca ouvi falar de si! Um tipo que ganha 10 vezes o jackpot já teria aparecido na Globo uma serie de vezes!!!


Não sou pop star para aparecer na Globo. Para receber o prêmio não há necessidade de identificação. Se você quiser alguma dica eu posso dar mas levar ao ridículo isso eu não vou permitir.
 

thornc

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rubronegro said:
Não sou pop star para aparecer na Globo. Para receber o prêmio não há necessidade de identificação. Se você quiser alguma dica eu posso dar mas levar ao ridículo isso eu não vou permitir.

Translations:
Mine:
"By the way, why didn't I ever heard of you. A guy that win the Lottery 10 times would have appeared on Globo a bunch of times."

His:
"I'm not a pop star to show up on Globo. To get the prize there's no need for ID. If you want some tip, I can give them to you, But I won't be rediculourized![how do you spell that!]"
[Globo is a Brazilian TV Network, I can catch in Portugal also!]

Amigo, calma... ninguem quis ofender!
Eu só quis mostrar a minha supresa para o facto! Mais nada....
 

Beaker

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Maggie said:
Translation anybody? :confused:
I don't speak Portuguese - I assume that is what it is.

But looking at it, no one is ridiculing anyone here. :no: just trying to understand a new method.

He posted a tip/hint, says he's hit 6/6 10 times and when we ask questions thinks it's ridicule?? :eek: :eek:

If anyone can decipher his method - please inquiring minds would like to know.

I've seen enough :wavey:
 
Beaker said:
Congratulations on those hits :agree:

rubronegro, the data in Canada649 does not support your probability estimation :no: looking at 7 numbers from the previous draw and hitting at least one

I have herard if neural nets :agree: and have been looking into some software to implement but need to read up on them.

One thing I don't understand about your method - you look at balls positionally and get a confidence interval - say 95% - how many balls do you have in each postion?? within your confidence interval?

We don't have 7 balls. We have 6/50 balls twice and 6/60 single. Also we have 20/50 in a pool of 100 and 15/25. The confidence interval for any position is always 95%. But we have to look for the current cicle, i.e. the missing numbers until all have appeared at least one time. The Normal distribution is applied for each position and the crosscheck is the confidence interval of the sum of the numbers. The outliers some time cannot be neglected, since they are in the very extreme of the gaussian curve. To model quite close of the reality you may have a MonteCarlo method, applied at least 10% of the probability of the jackpot, lets say 1:60.000.000. 1:15.000.000 etc
 

thornc

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thornc said:

Amigo, calma... ninguem quis ofender!
Eu só quis mostrar a minha supresa para o facto! Mais nada....

Sorry... forgot to translate this one!

"Calm down my fried... nobody wanted to offend anyone! I only tryed to express my suprise to the fact you stated! Nothing else...."


Cool ehm... I can try to post it in French and Italian but I would take some time ;) !
 

thornc

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Ok... In English only!

The problem with most of these is how do you model the lottery to put it in the optimization routine! Are you assuming a Linear-Time Invariant model? Something more complex? perhaps a Gauss-Markov model??
 
thornc said:
Ok... In English only!

The problem with most of these is how do you model the lottery to put it in the optimization routine! Are you assuming a Linear-Time Invariant model? Something more complex? perhaps a Gauss-Markov model??

Basically the assumption is a time invariant model. Each draw has the same probability of the next or prior draw. But in order to reduce the number of variables, you may have to make some assumption. For each particular lotto scheme is always possible to devise a pattern that repeats cyclicaly. If you try to perform a Fourier series you can estimate the shape of various positions and eliminating those which appears to have reached the maximum frequency, you will end up with a minor universe. The routine is not complicated but it is necessary to perform a new forecast for each new draw. I have working with EXCEL and a lot of different add-ins, each one to perform an specific task.
I know is quite hard to believe my success, but the only reason I have saying that is to help anyone to be lucky. By the way lucky doesn't exist.
 

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